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ORIGINAL: CHINCHIN

Hi all,

This Mod replaces a series of files to replace silhouettes with counters, in the magnificent mod of Heroes and Leaders mod.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4354865

You have to unzip the files and overwrite them in:

The file "Units.csv" in:

C:\Matrix Games\Lock n Load Heroes and Leaders mod\Heroes and Leaders mod

And the rest of files in:

C:\Matrix Games\Lock n Load Heroes and Leaders mod\Heroes and Leaders\Counters

NOTE: In my case it is the folder "Lock n Load Heroes and Leaders mod", other users maybe put another name for the double installation.

CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD



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quote:

ORIGINAL: CHINCHIN

Hi all,

This Mod replaces a series of files to replace silhouettes with counters, in the magnificent mod of Heroes and Leaders mod.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4354865

You have to unzip the files and overwrite them in:

The file "Units.csv" in:

C:\Matrix Games\Lock n Load Heroes and Leaders mod\Heroes and Leaders mod

And the rest of files in:

C:\Matrix Games\Lock n Load Heroes and Leaders mod\Heroes and Leaders\Counters

NOTE: In my case it is the folder "Lock n Load Heroes and Leaders mod", other users maybe put another name for the double installation.

CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD



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ORIGINAL: Gerry4321

quote:

ORIGINAL: CHINCHIN

Hi all,

This Mod replaces a series of files to replace silhouettes with counters, in the magnificent mod of Heroes and Leaders mod.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4354865

You have to unzip the files and overwrite them in:

The file "Units.csv" in:

C:\Matrix Games\Lock n Load Heroes and Leaders mod\Heroes and Leaders mod

And the rest of files in:

C:\Matrix Games\Lock n Load Heroes and Leaders mod\Heroes and Leaders\Counters

NOTE: In my case it is the folder "Lock n Load Heroes and Leaders mod", other users maybe put another name for the double installation.

CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD



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Hello Chinchin:

Thanks so much for doing this! I am very much a counter person.

And ASL3d, thank you for your amazing work!

Gerry

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ORIGINAL: CHINCHIN

The release 0.3 of Counters Mod is already available in this same "threah", in the post # 1:

Corrects erroneous wounded Russian hero movement factor.
Add turret space to all vehicles.
Add counters of new American units.

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ORIGINAL: CHINCHIN

Thanks to you Asl3d! It's a pleasure for me.

I have noticed that the wounded heroes do not change their movement factor, they maintain the movement factor of the unit healthy, no matter what you put in "Units.csv"

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ORIGINAL: asl3d
Hello Chinchin,
I just verified that the only Hero who has 4 MF in his Broken mode is the Soviet Heronatoly Uglovsky.
I do not remember having verified that this Hero does not have 4 MF during the game but it is possible that the AI does not consult the Excel file data, at least in this case.
The AI has some faults and this can be an example. But it's no so bad.

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ORIGINAL: Gerry4321
Regarding heroes in general, is it possible that you would consider to make them less powerful? Sometimes they have a firepower of 2 while many first line squads are only 1. I realize heroes were special. But a FP of 2 is just too much I think, in Melee for example.

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ORIGINAL: Gerry4321

Regarding heroes in general, is it possible that you would consider to make them less powerful? Sometimes they have a firepower of 2 while many first line squads are only 1. I realize heroes were special. But a FP of 2 is just too much I think, in Melee for example.

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ORIGINAL: Gerry4321

Maybe a limit of one Hero per scenario and if they are KIA then no more for that scenario? Just my opinion.

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ORIGINAL: Gerry4321

Maybe a limit of one Hero per scenario and if they are KIA then no more for that scenario? Just my opinion.

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ORIGINAL: asl3d
I do not understand well how the FP logic works. That is, there are HS with FP "0". This is absurd. For this, I have decided to leave the values specified by the original designers of the software, that is, either 1 or 2.

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ORIGINAL: Gerry4321

Thanks for the info. Nice to see that none is an option for designers.

Also maybe asl3d could change FP for all Heroes to be 1? So they wouldn't be so devastating.

Thanks to both of you again.

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ORIGINAL: Gerry4321

I like the proposal of course. Would be nice to hear what Rico and Chinchin think as they design scenarios.

Is there a way to set up a poll on these forums?

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ORIGINAL: CHINCHIN

At the moment I'm playing a scenario of HnL very complicated against the Russians, and on top have taken about 6 or 7 heroes, exasperating.

Ok with the FP of 1 for heroes, and select in the scenarios some possibilities of heroes of rare or limit.

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ORIGINAL: Gerry4321
Is that a scenario in the German campaign? Where you are retreating and the Soviets have tons of units? I saw discussions on forums about that I think. One of the strategies for the Germans was to NOT fire at broken stacks because of the chance of creating heroes. In most games you would want to fire at them to eliminate the broken ones. So a bit crazy I think.
Only feature of LnL that I really dislike is the large number of super heroes.

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ORIGINAL: rico21

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ORIGINAL: Gerry4321

I like the proposal of course. Would be nice to hear what Rico and Chinchin think as they design scenarios.

Is there a way to set up a poll on these forums?

Hi Gerry,
Lock n load does not have a rate of fire like asl or Toth (The rate of fire allows you to shoot opportunely several times on approaching opponents). This is compensated by the appearance of Heroes which complicates the plans of the attacker on a target defined in advance.
So in summary, you need heroes but not too much.
But that's my vision and I also consider that a scenario designer is the only master of his scenario.

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ORIGINAL: asl3d

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ORIGINAL: rico21

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ORIGINAL: Gerry4321

I like the proposal of course. Would be nice to hear what Rico and Chinchin think as they design scenarios.

Is there a way to set up a poll on these forums?

Hi Gerry,
Lock n load does not have a rate of fire like asl or Toth (The rate of fire allows you to shoot opportunely several times on approaching opponents). This is compensated by the appearance of Heroes which complicates the plans of the attacker on a target defined in advance.
So in summary, you need heroes but not too much.
But that's my vision and I also consider that a scenario designer is the only master of his scenario.

Rico, I think like you. LnL HoS is not ASL. LnL HoS has no Subsequent First Defensive Fire, nor does it have Final Protective Fire (FPF), nor MG RF. But I do not know if the Heroes are a "countermeasure" against that deficit.

Although I still do not understand how the FP works in LnL HoS (FP = 0 in a HS is, at least, surprising), it seems clear that if an elite squad (around 14 well-armed and trained men) has an FP = 2, a Hero, that is, an SMC, with FP = 2 is more like "Superman" than a brave and determined soldier who is capable, in a moment of "Heat of Battle," of leading a group of soldiers.

Finally, I have changed in all Heroes with FP = 2 to FP = 1, and in all Heroes with FP = 1 to FP = 0.

I have done all the tests of the Omaha Easy Red scenario with these "new Heroes" and it seems that their influence on the game diminishes, although it is still very important.

I have been hesitating to also suppress his Assault Movement bonus but I finally left it as it was until now.

This change is not all that Gerry proposed but, perhaps, it is a small step forward in the right direction.

Along with other small changes and corrections, I have included the "new Heroes" in release 3.1 of the Core of Heroes and Leaders mod.



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ORIGINAL: Gerry4321

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ORIGINAL: asl3d

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ORIGINAL: rico21

quote:

ORIGINAL: Gerry4321

I like the proposal of course. Would be nice to hear what Rico and Chinchin think as they design scenarios.

Is there a way to set up a poll on these forums?

Hi Gerry,
Lock n load does not have a rate of fire like asl or Toth (The rate of fire allows you to shoot opportunely several times on approaching opponents). This is compensated by the appearance of Heroes which complicates the plans of the attacker on a target defined in advance.
So in summary, you need heroes but not too much.
But that's my vision and I also consider that a scenario designer is the only master of his scenario.

Rico, I think like you. LnL HoS is not ASL. LnL HoS has no Subsequent First Defensive Fire, nor does it have Final Protective Fire (FPF), nor MG RF. But I do not know if the Heroes are a "countermeasure" against that deficit.

Although I still do not understand how the FP works in LnL HoS (FP = 0 in a HS is, at least, surprising), it seems clear that if an elite squad (around 14 well-armed and trained men) has an FP = 2, a Hero, that is, an SMC, with FP = 2 is more like "Superman" than a brave and determined soldier who is capable, in a moment of "Heat of Battle," of leading a group of soldiers.

Finally, I have changed in all Heroes with FP = 2 to FP = 1, and in all Heroes with FP = 1 to FP = 0.

I have done all the tests of the Omaha Easy Red scenario with these "new Heroes" and it seems that their influence on the game diminishes, although it is still very important.

I have been hesitating to also suppress his Assault Movement bonus but I finally left it as it was until now.

This change is not all that Gerry proposed but, perhaps, it is a small step forward in the right direction.

Along with other small changes and corrections, I have included the "new Heroes" in release 3.1 of the Core of Heroes and Leaders mod.



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Thanks Julio. And sorry to make work for you. I do hope everyone will enjoy the change.