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MakeeLearn -> RE: Elephants in WW2 (6/26/2019 2:35:18 PM)

#501 hit a mine and lost a track. It was repaired and tested at NIBT.
#502 lost an idler from explosives. This vehicle was subsequently used for penetration testing.



I-02 hit a mine, lost its left track and a road wheel, and caught fire. The vehicle burned up.
II-01 was hit by an incendiary bottle and burned up.
II-02 hit a mine, lost its right track and road wheels. It was later hit by an incendiary bottle, and burned up.
II-03 was hit by a shell, and subsequently an incendiary bottle. The vehicle burned up. Edward Yermolayev helpfully identified it as a Ferdinand that appeared in other articles.
#501 hit a mine and lost a track. It was repaired and tested at NIBT.
#502 lost an idler from explosives. This vehicle was subsequently used for penetration testing.
#514 hit a mine, lost its track and suffered a damaged road wheel. The vehicle burned up.
#522 was destroyed by explosives, track and road wheels destroyed. The fuel ignited. The vehicle burned up.
#523 was destroyed by explosives, lost a track, and some road wheels. The vehicle was burned by its crew.
#524 hit a mine, lost a track, and was set on fire.
#601 lost its right track from a shell hit. The vehicle was ignited externally and burned up.
#602 was penetrated by a 76 mm shell in the left side. The gas tank ignited and the vehicle burned up.
#734 was destroyed by explosives, lost a track. The fuel ignited, the vehicle burned up.
#712 was hit by a shell, and its right leading wheel was destroyed. The crew bailed out.
#713 lost both idlers from shells and caught fire. The vehicle burned up.
#723 took shots to the suspension and gun mantlet, the gun was jammed, and track destroyed.
#732 was hit by a shell, and had its third bogey destroyed. The vehicle was set on fire.
150061 lost its idler and gun to artillery fire. The crew was captured.
150090 hit a mine, track destroyed. Vehicle was repaired and sent to Moscow to an exhibition of captured vehicles.
An unknown Ferdinand was destroyed completely by a direct hit from a Petlyakov bomber.




#111 caught fire due to an overheated engine while climbing a hill.
#112 caught fire for an unknown reason, perhaps due to a faulty fuel system.
#113 hit a mine.
#122 was lost at Ponyri (very likely that it is serial number 150090).
#132: unknown, no photos of this Ferdinand destroyed.
#134 was mistaken for an enemy tank, had its track damaged by German artillery, and was abandoned.
#232: unknown, no photos of this Ferdinand destroyed.
#311 was, most likely, disassembled for parts.
#323 likely hit a mine and was immobilized, destroyed by crew.
#331 was stuck in soft ground. A Soviet infantry attack prevented the crew from destroying it.
#333 was captured at Podmaslovka.
#IN1: unknown, no photos of this Ferdinand.
#IN2 was destroyed at Ponyri. Photograph shows two road wheels on the left side destroyed.
#II-03 and #732 were destroyed right next to each other at Ponyri, facing away at a 90 degree angle.
#531 was destroyed, towed, and used for spare parts.
#602 was lost at Ponyri. Cause is unknown, no photos exist.
#614: unknown, no photos of this Ferdinand destroyed.
#623 was lost while trying to tow #634. A shell went through the open driver's hatch and hit the driver.
#624 got stuck on soft ground and was captured.
#634 sank into the ground. In an attempt by two other Ferdinands to pull it out, #623 was lost.
#654 was lost at Ponyri. Cause is unknown, no photos exist.
#711: unknown. There is no caption, and photographs do not show any obvious damage.
#731 was destroyed by heavy howitzer fire.
#733 was captured at a repair facility.
#734 was lost at Ponyri. Cause is unknown, no photos exist.

http://grayknight.narod.ru/Ferds_Kursk_43/Ferds_Kursk_43.htm




sstevens06 -> RE: Elephants in WW2 (6/26/2019 4:05:33 PM)

Relevant book is relevant to this thread:

Elephant Company: The Inspiring Story of an Unlikely Hero and the Animals Who Helped Him Save Lives in World War II by Vicki Croke

https://www.amazon.com/Elephant-Company-Inspiring-Unlikely-Animals/dp/0812981650

Takes place in CBI theater. Lot's of interesting background and anecdotes I hadn't heard about before.







Orm -> RE: Elephants in WW2 (6/26/2019 5:02:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Some historians doubt that any of Hannibal's elephants made it over the Alps, and there's no convincing evidence that any did (last I checked).

With this standard of convincing evidence, did Hannibal and his army even cross the Alps?




Zorch -> RE: Elephants in WW2 (6/26/2019 5:28:48 PM)

Maybe Hannibal ate his elephants?

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