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cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (3/8/2019 10:12:38 AM)

.col entries 070 through 074 (column 15)
Base counter color is taken from a color used on Warsaw Pact AFVs.

070 (Soviet colors)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/T3ySMtDK/070.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="70" MainBackground="10597752" Background="13434880" Foreground="16773120" Numbers="2698293"/>

071 (E German colors)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/mgMwyJ9y/071.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="71" MainBackground="10597752" Background="1182996" Foreground="14483456" Numbers="16762633"/>

072 (Czechoslovak colors)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/rpVhjck2/072.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="72" MainBackground="10597752" Background="14158867" Foreground="16777208" Numbers="541567"/>

073 (Polish colors)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/JhzqJqN1/073.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="73" MainBackground="10597752" Background="13902141" Foreground="16777208" Numbers="16777208"/>

074 (Hungarian colors)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/tJWtymjz/074.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="74" MainBackground="10597752" Background="4288588" Foreground="13509948" Numbers="16777208"/>

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cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (3/8/2019 3:07:24 PM)

Edited -- base color made less rosy.

.col entries 075 through 079 (column 16)
Base counter color is rosy brick.

075 (colors from PLA uniform in Korean War)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/fyR9QPb1/075.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="75" MainBackground="13836032" Background="13681299" Foreground="7748656" Numbers="2698293"/>

076 (colors from PLA camouflage pattern)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/VNw5chG4/076.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="76" MainBackground="13836032" Background="4284266" Foreground="11911104" Numbers="2688293"/>

077 (colors from modern PLA AFV)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/NMMssv18/077.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="77" MainBackground="13836032" Background="8360538" Foreground="15120534" Numbers="2688293"/>

078 (flag of Pakistan)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/WbRdntGQ/078.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="78" MainBackground="13836032" Background="82204" Foreground="16777208" Numbers="16777208"/>

079 (colors from PLAAF jet aircraft)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/rmBwQYrS/079.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="79" MainBackground="13836032" Background="14067034" Foreground="3219732" Numbers="12112599"/>

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cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (3/10/2019 1:22:11 PM)

.col entries 080 through 084 (column 17)
Base counter color is light yellow. A color set with no tie to a historical force, with one exception.

080 (flag of Iran)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/zDS1mg2y/080.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="80" MainBackground="16777113" Background="16777184" Foreground="14286848" Numbers="2334528"/>

081
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/KjnF8GsW/081.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="81" MainBackground="16777113" Background="16777184" Foreground="2263842" Numbers="7748656"/>

082
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/k5V05M2y/082.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="82" MainBackground="16777113" Background="10597752" Foreground="7748656" Numbers="7748656"/>

083
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/rmXPF1X8/083.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="83" MainBackground="16777113" Background="13147202" Foreground="7748656" Numbers="7748656"/>

084
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/pTHstPzr/084.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="84" MainBackground="16777113" Background="11584734" Foreground="2698293" Numbers="7748656"/>

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cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (3/10/2019 2:40:41 PM)

.col entries 085 through 089 (column 18)
Base counter color is RAF Blue. A color set with no tie to a historical force, with two exceptions.

085 (UN flag)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/J0yrmvs2/085.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="85" MainBackground="4479867" Background="4165855" Foreground="16777208" Numbers="16777208"/>

086
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/y8hVVFNs/086.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="86" MainBackground="4479867" Background="4479867" Foreground="16777208" Numbers="16777208"/>

087 (flag of Argentina)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/G3BTb5nR/087.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="87" MainBackground="4479867" Background="7646431" Foreground="16777208" Numbers="7646431"/>

088
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/VkFd7ynq/088.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="88" MainBackground="4479867" Background="3947331" Foreground="12632256" Numbers="16777208"/>

089
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/c4SxP9sX/089.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="89" MainBackground="4479867" Background="4479867" Foreground="12111314" Numbers="16777208"/>

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cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (3/10/2019 6:28:36 PM)

.col entries 090 through 094 (column 19)
Base counter color is wine red. A color set with no tie to a historical force, with one exception.

090
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/8zwnzkdm/090.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="90" MainBackground="8454656" Background="8454656" Foreground="12415798" Numbers="11645611"/>

091
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/8zkt9Q8J/091.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="91" MainBackground="8454656" Background="13147202" Foreground="9990747" Numbers="11645611"/>

092
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/8PNHfQzK/092.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="92" MainBackground="8454656" Background="4802616" Foreground="11645611" Numbers="11645611"/>

093 (flag of India)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/9fvWLH8Z/093.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="93" MainBackground="8454656" Background="1280008" Foreground="16750899" Numbers="16777184"/>

094
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/3Jtgyk6N/094.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="94" MainBackground="8454656" Background="12632256" Foreground="4541738" Numbers="11645611"/>

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cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (3/11/2019 11:31:18 AM)

.col entries 095 through 099 (column 20)
A color set taken from actual camouflage patterns.
No common base counter color.

095 (SS Autumn)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/Dw59CgbP/095.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="95" MainBackground="9990747" Background="8421504" Foreground="5455922" Numbers="12415798"/>

096 (SS pea green)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/SKJvgp4m/096.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="96" MainBackground="10132086" Background="6390098" Foreground="13149326" Numbers="6968391"/>

097 (British Denison smock)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/ncpS6mxR/097.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="97" MainBackground="8747872" Background="6443078" Foreground="12162453" Numbers="12162453"/>

098 (one of the Tiger Stripe varieties used in Vietnam)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/9MHYy3F8/098.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="98" MainBackground="11972762" Background="13808295" Foreground="15391414" Numbers="5327200"/>

099 (desert pattern used by USA in DESERT STORM)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/DzkXMrkm/099.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="99" MainBackground="13022135" Background="11312520" Foreground="8214348" Numbers="3288639"/>

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cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (3/11/2019 11:38:37 AM)

.col entries 100 through 104 (column 21)
Common background of off-white, with national flag colors.

100 (Israel)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/VkyqxQXY/100.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="100" MainBackground="16777215" Background="16777206" Foreground="14520" Numbers="14520"/>

101 (Japan [modern])
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/2jMX258y/101.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="101" MainBackground="16777215" Background="16777206" Foreground="14887482" Numbers="14887482"/>

102 (Republic of China)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/bwTgcY8Q/102.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="102" MainBackground="16777215" Background="16777206" Foreground="16646144" Numbers="149"/>

103 (Russian Federation)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/nrBKdp09/103.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="103" MainBackground="16777215" Background="16777206" Foreground="13970206" Numbers="14758"/>

104 (Serbia)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/DzNqn8Nb/104.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="104" MainBackground="16777215" Background="16777206" Foreground="802934" Numbers="12990012"/>

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cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (3/11/2019 11:45:16 AM)

.col entries 105 through 109 (column 22) (final column)
Common background of sand color, with selected national flag colors.

105 (many Arab flags)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/mgs4pj2P/105.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="105" MainBackground="15391414" Background="13504806" Foreground="16777206" Numbers="1182996"/>

106 (Saudi Arabia)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/zB6ZCScX/106.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="106" MainBackground="15391414" Background="27698" Foreground="16777206" Numbers="27698"/>

107 (South Africa [old])
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/c4qG6h3F/107.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="107" MainBackground="15391414" Background="16745728" Foreground="16777206" Numbers="13701"/>

108 (Jihadis)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/g0tfpHdq/108.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="108" MainBackground="15391414" Background="16777206" Foreground="1182996" Numbers="1182996"/>

109 (Brazil)
[image]https://i.postimg.cc/mg8n3ycf/109.png[/image]
<COLOR ID="109" MainBackground="15391414" Background="16703488" Foreground="8823" Numbers="39991"/>

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cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (3/11/2019 11:49:02 AM)

A table displaying the icon colors. From inside out: icon background, icon foreground, and main background colors. Color of numbers is indicated by three small squares at bottom.

[image]https://i.postimg.cc/ryZzHvvK/Icon-Color-Legend.png[/image]

And a tableau display of the icon colors for reference.

[image]https://i.postimg.cc/sXxb2jrh/All-icons.png[/image]

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cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (3/11/2019 11:53:10 AM)

The .col file.

To use: remove the ".txt" at the end. Then replace "lab" with the name of a scenario in which the .col is to be used. This renamed file should be placed in a folder that has the scenario's name and which is located under the "Graphics Override" folder.

Example: For a scenario named "Fort Fetterman", there should be a folder named "Fort Fetterman" under the "Graphics Override" folder. Inside the "Fort Fetterman" folder, place this .col file with the name "Fort Fetterman.col" .

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76mm -> RE: Colors for counters (3/11/2019 1:06:49 PM)

Thanks much for this, will try to use it at some point!



cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (3/11/2019 1:15:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: 76mm

Thanks much for this, will try to use it at some point!


Great, hope it proves useful!

Cheers



mussey -> RE: Colors for counters (3/12/2019 4:10:50 PM)

Cathar, this is great! Beautiful.



larryfulkerson -> RE: Colors for counters (7/5/2019 9:46:26 PM)

Thanks a lot for these. I'm using them in my scenarios and I appreciate your
hard work.



rhinobones -> RE: Colors for counters (7/6/2019 1:09:40 AM)



quote:

Cataracs are the third leading cause of blindness. Politics and religion are the first two.


I thought choking your chicken was #1?



larryfulkerson -> RE: Colors for counters (7/6/2019 3:53:17 AM)

quote:

I thought choking your chicken was #1?
polishing your banana...
choaking your bishop...
waxing your refueling probe...
clearing your pipes just before a date....
recalibrating your equipment....
doing a self-test event just prior to launch...
doing a scientific experiment in urology.....




Lobster -> RE: Colors for counters (7/6/2019 4:21:28 AM)

[:D]



cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (7/6/2019 7:09:19 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Thanks a lot for these. I'm using them in my scenarios and I appreciate your
hard work.


Larry,

Glad they're proving useful. Post a screenshot showing how you've used them at some point.

Cheers



larryfulkerson -> RE: Colors for counters (7/11/2019 12:25:37 AM)

I saved your All-icons.png file and used it for reference to change the color of my German units. I was thinking that #0 was a good looking grey and I found from the GAM file that German Infantry units use color slot #10. So I copied the defination for color 0 into the slot for 10 and changed the number from 0 to 10 in the new entry and saved it. Then I loaded it into the editor and discovered to my horror that the German units are now blue instead of grey. [ you'll have to scroll down to see what I mean. ] What in the world am I doing wrong?

EDIT
Never mind, I figured it out. It's working great. Thanks.


[image]local://upfiles/16287/9DE43861C1134DDB82BD27BF83F3ABEB.jpg[/image]



JTFox001 -> RE: Colors for counters (7/11/2019 7:49:50 PM)

Hello all.

Great looking counters. The question is. What's the best way to get them into the game?

For example. I created a "Kasserine 43" Folder in the My Doc......Graphic Overide Folder and placed the renames .col file there. When I ran the game it picked up the file and changes the colours. Probelm is it used the the 20 to 24 column for the Germans and I need it to use the 0 to 4 column.

Do I place a default .col file in the folder and just edit one line or do I copy the scenario and edit in the editor?

Any advise would be welcome.

Cheers JTF



larryfulkerson -> RE: Colors for counters (7/11/2019 7:54:37 PM)

Using the "All-icons.png" file to be had in this thread:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4597257&mpage=3&key=
and converting the lab.col.txt file [ also to be had in the same thread ] to my COL
file I converted the colors of the German units to a better shade of grey.

I found out which unit to convert from the GAM file and the color I wanted from the
All-icons.png file and copied the color line from number 0 to the number 10 line and
changed the unit ID from "0" to a "10" and then ran the scenario through the editor
and now the color of the german infantry unit is a better shade of grey.

[image]local://upfiles/16287/5313A562B49B41CCAE37126FE29C0619.jpg[/image]



cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (7/12/2019 5:29:41 AM)

Larry,

Thanks for the screenshots.

Cheers



cathar1244 -> RE: Colors for counters (7/12/2019 5:32:29 AM)

quote:

Do I place a default .col file in the folder and just edit one line or do I copy the scenario and edit in the editor?


You can do either. If the number of units to change color is large, the easiest way is probably to edit the .col file as Larry mentioned. If it is just a handful of units, the editor may be the faster way to go.

Cheers



Zovs -> RE: Colors for counters (7/12/2019 9:32:01 AM)

I have created my own .col file fire my WIE scenario to reflect both SPI and DG board game counter colors (a mix from both) and include it in the appropriate scenario folder along with my modified eqp file.



larryfulkerson -> RE: Colors for counters (7/12/2019 10:14:42 AM)

quote:

I have created my own .col file fire my WIE scenario to reflect both SPI and DG board game counter colors (a mix from both) and include it in the appropriate scenario folder along with my modified eqp file.
And.....
Did it work? Got a screenshot? Why modify the EQP file? Are you using the TOAW 5.1 equipment file yet?



Zovs -> RE: Colors for counters (7/12/2019 11:50:17 AM)

Yes it did (my PC is still unrecoverable, but I got backups of all my stuff), I'll try to post a screen shot when I am "live" again. FWI in my dropbox account it has my latest Larry if you wanted to take another look.

As far as the eqp file, before I found out about the TOAW 5.1 equipment file I had started modifying my own units (I created about 10, and then I "painstakingly" manually cut and pasted and then renumbered all the equipment I wanted/needed out of the TOAW 5.1 DB files into mine, I did not want to loose my SS Polizei and NKVD squads I created nor the extended range artillery for my scenario (its based on 25 miles to the hex so I modified a few countries artillery to reach the 2 hex range and allocated these 'specially modified guns/howitzers' to specific artillery units.

So for my scenario I customized quite a lot, and only used WW2 data from that DB to supplement my changes.

Going forward I won't do that again.

But that TOAW 5.1 DB is missing a lot of items (the SS Polizei and NKVD, plus the German command tanks, I created I think 5 of these, but at the end of it all with only 24 slots available to units I had to ditch using them, nice chrome for historical purposes but not for a Generic Panzer divisions covering 1939-1945.



Zovs -> RE: Colors for counters (7/12/2019 6:09:43 PM)

Larry,

I finally recovered my PC, going to take a few days to get it all settled...

Here is a few screenies...

Germans vs. Polish...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/r34XGKg.png[/img]

Kriegsmarine...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/X4MtspY.png[/img]

French near Maginot Line...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/9vpvhca.png[/img]

More Frenchies...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/C5oTJij.png[/img]

Brits...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Nv5t6RV.png[/img]

Italians...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/a6MVcCF.png[/img]

German, Poles and Russians, 39 (no guards yet...)...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/Lw2QZsL.png[/img]



larryfulkerson -> RE: Colors for counters (7/13/2019 1:37:40 PM)

I found a scenario that needed to be fixed and fixed it.
It was Iwo-Jima 45 and my mod is called Action at Dawn.

[image]local://upfiles/16287/1390979FFEBD46748E37C57769E1CA86.jpg[/image]



JTFox001 -> RE: Colors for counters (7/13/2019 2:06:10 PM)

Thanks for all the advise.

Great looking screen shots as well.

Cheers JTF



John T_MatrixForum -> RE: Colors for counters (7/15/2019 9:23:04 AM)

+1

It was easy to use,
once you had the color code and thanks to cathar1244 examples I could steal some from his palette.

Kind regards
/John



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