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crispy131313 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (3/30/2020 2:32:10 PM)
Thanks had no idea it was full, fixed

John B. -> RE: Fall Weiss II (3/30/2020 6:30:10 PM)
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Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/1/2020 2:46:28 PM)
Just a thought about Global... I noticed that the Essexes were the last units that the US AI built: they only started coming online in late '44/'45. Checked the relevant scripts, and most notably fleet CVs were all at the same level as all other ships (10's). But I also noticed this line: #SKIP_FUNDS_CHECK= Should we skip the applicable funds check? (values range [0, 1]; True= 1; False= 0) If the AI "rolls the dice" during its build phase, once the available MPPs drop below the cost of a carrier, the AI won't be able to buy any more. I'm not sure if flipping the above lines to 1's will thus allow them to purchase any even if the MPP level is below the purchase price. In any event fleet CV's likely need to be changed to c. 30's or so.

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/1/2020 3:38:52 PM)
Annnd back to Europe... Just documented all freebie AI units, thru the end of 1942. They were staggering. Now, 2 caveats. I am fully aware that quite a few depend on Axis units being near the city in question to be triggered. And that some scripts may be redundant. And that quite a few were simply carryovers from Hubert's core scenario. And I didn't include the ones which said "Currently Off"... Just for difficulty levels 0-2: 7 HQ's 3 Garrisons 27 Inf. Corps 24 Inf. Armies 2 Shock Armies 1 Field Arty 4 Tank Corps 1 Tank Army 5 Fighters 4 Tactical Bombers Add in levels 3-4: 3 HQ's 8 Inf. Corps 7 Inf. Armies 2 Special Forces 1 Engineer 2 Shock Armies 2 Rocket Arty 3 Tank Corps 3 Fighters 3 Tactical Bombers That explains what I was seeing. I had done everything optimally: bought out all of my tanks, all of my mechanized units, all of my air force, got a huge pocket of Russians during '41 (so they couldn't be bought back cheap), teched up as high as Lady Luck would allow, Rommel now has nothing between him and the Middle East (there he has killed several HQs and most of the Allied air force, which the AI just let sit there, vs. being operated back to England)... And now I am reeling on all fronts, which are typically 2-3 deep in Russians, preventing me from forming any more pockets (tho in June I managed to trap another dozen of his units, incl. 2 shocks an HQ a tank & and a tac). Once my tanks blow their wad they can't progress any further in the face of the Zerg Rush they are facing. The US is about to launch Torch, and the Regia Marina isn't going to be quite strong enough to stop them (I've already said my piece on that of course). I know the AI is dumb (see how the Western Allies just let all of their planes get killed). At some point tho human ingenuity simply cannot compete with being drowned in a sea of enemy units. [c.f. your current AAR] Luftwaffe is in ruins, I must spend all MPPs repairing my tanks and whatever infantry I can. I've killed over 20 of his tanks by August '42, to no avail. Fine, you say that it's been beaten at those levels twice now; note I've defeated the Allies a couple of times at max difficulty years ago in earlier editions of the game series. If so, my hat's off to you.

crispy131313 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/1/2020 8:43:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elessar2 Just a thought about Global... I noticed that the Essexes were the last units that the US AI built: they only started coming online in late '44/'45. Checked the relevant scripts, and most notably fleet CVs were all at the same level as all other ships (10's). But I also noticed this line: #SKIP_FUNDS_CHECK= Should we skip the applicable funds check? (values range [0, 1]; True= 1; False= 0) If the AI "rolls the dice" during its build phase, once the available MPPs drop below the cost of a carrier, the AI won't be able to buy any more. I'm not sure if flipping the above lines to 1's will thus allow them to purchase any even if the MPP level is below the purchase price. In any event fleet CV's likely need to be changed to c. 30's or so. I've copied over the same build scripts as the base game's most recent. They could be updated from what you are seeing, the global mod that I've posted is very very outdated. I'm actually playing testing my next version right now. WHat is c. 30's?

crispy131313 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/1/2020 8:54:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elessar2 Annnd back to Europe... Just documented all freebie AI units, thru the end of 1942. They were staggering. Now, 2 caveats. I am fully aware that quite a few depend on Axis units being near the city in question to be triggered. And that some scripts may be redundant. And that quite a few were simply carryovers from Hubert's core scenario. And I didn't include the ones which said "Currently Off"... Just for difficulty levels 0-2: 7 HQ's 3 Garrisons 27 Inf. Corps 24 Inf. Armies 2 Shock Armies 1 Field Arty 4 Tank Corps 1 Tank Army 5 Fighters 4 Tactical Bombers Add in levels 3-4: 3 HQ's 8 Inf. Corps 7 Inf. Armies 2 Special Forces 1 Engineer 2 Shock Armies 2 Rocket Arty 3 Tank Corps 3 Fighters 3 Tactical Bombers That explains what I was seeing. I had done everything optimally: bought out all of my tanks, all of my mechanized units, all of my air force, got a huge pocket of Russians during '41 (so they couldn't be bought back cheap), teched up as high as Lady Luck would allow, Rommel now has nothing between him and the Middle East (there he has killed several HQs and most of the Allied air force, which the AI just let sit there, vs. being operated back to England)... And now I am reeling on all fronts, which are typically 2-3 deep in Russians, preventing me from forming any more pockets (tho in June I managed to trap another dozen of his units, incl. 2 shocks an HQ a tank & and a tac). Once my tanks blow their wad they can't progress any further in the face of the Zerg Rush they are facing. The US is about to launch Torch, and the Regia Marina isn't going to be quite strong enough to stop them (I've already said my piece on that of course). I know the AI is dumb (see how the Western Allies just let all of their planes get killed). At some point tho human ingenuity simply cannot compete with being drowned in a sea of enemy units. [c.f. your current AAR] Luftwaffe is in ruins, I must spend all MPPs repairing my tanks and whatever infantry I can. I've killed over 20 of his tanks by August '42, to no avail. Fine, you say that it's been beaten at those levels twice now; note I've defeated the Allies a couple of times at max difficulty years ago in earlier editions of the game series. If so, my hat's off to you. I will be reducing the number of AI bonus units. I have already reduced the build limits that will also reduce the "over limit" issue the Soviet AI is benefiting from somewhat. I intend to still baby the AI a little with having access to quick units on the Eastern Front but it will trigger via decision instead of only a unit script and I can deduct the much of the cost of these units from the MPP pool so as to avoid double dipping. Italy's inability to defeat not only the Royal Navy in the Mediterranean but also the US Atlantic Fleet doesn't really surprise me and is mostly intended. My experience is 50/50 if I can stop Torch. As for the Middle East not much I can do about the AI not playing optimally, I noticed this too.

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/3/2020 9:53:27 PM)
30 was just a recommended CV build chance in the relevant scripts (they're all 10's right now). 40 or even 50 likely may be more optimal. Good to hear on the other front. The thing I noticed is that most of those L3/L4 bonus scripts were set to fire by July '42. Historically most should probably fire starting in the fall of '42 and on thru the end of '43. Note: would be happy to playtest vs. you, if you like. [8D]

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/3/2020 10:05:58 PM)
Still would prefer the Yamatos/Montanas/German H's using the Dreadnought slot.

crispy131313 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/5/2020 1:51:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elessar2 30 was just a recommended CV build chance in the relevant scripts (they're all 10's right now). 40 or even 50 likely may be more optimal. Good to hear on the other front. The thing I noticed is that most of those L3/L4 bonus scripts were set to fire by July '42. Historically most should probably fire starting in the fall of '42 and on thru the end of '43. Note: would be happy to playtest vs. you, if you like. [8D] I'm currently doing a test run on the World Map. It's actually my first real play through, I just hot seated my way through the game (without really playing) previously to test different decisions were working. That was months ago, and I just decided to do a major update lately. I decided to play the Allies to see how the game would go if we really went off script and i'm having a blast now in June 42'. I evoked the Anglo-Portuguese Alliance to begin the game, which is really rolling the dice with Spain but managed to keep them out of the war, but the Axis went heavy on Greece instead so it was a trade-off that the Axis ended up winning anyways. After the fall of Paris, Vichy France immediately joined the Axis, which is one of those low probability AI events. With the Soviets I was ultra aggressive, invading Poland, Finland and the Turkish Straits, and did not sign the non-aggression pact with Japan, so when Germany invaded the Soviets, Japan and USSR were bound to war. The Soviets were suddenly fighting on all fronts with Germany, the Balkan nations, Finland, Turkey and Japan. All this aggression kept the Soviet mobilization higher so we were better prepared to fight, though Germany still made historical gains during Barbarossa. With Turkey, Greece and Vichy France having joined the Axis, the AI has quite a bit of MPP to play with at least in the Western Theater. The Soviets are currently defending front line (or nearly) cities of Leningrad, Moscow and Stalingrad as well as Baku (from the Turkish front). North Africa and the Middle East has been a heck of a fight, we had pushed the Italians back far enough to capture El Aghelia but the DAK smashed our front and would end up re-capturing Tobruk, but the British would eventually prevail and defeat the Axis by May 42'. This has been a bright spot. In the Middle East it's an all out fight right now, some light infantry that Turkey allowed Germany to transit to Iraq while still neutral delayed our invasion of Baghdad, we eventually squashed the garrisons but Germany sent an invasion force from Turkey and would eventually liberate Tehran (Persia) and bring Syria into the Axis camp, so significant forces from South Africa and India are tied up fighting all across the Middle East. This has significantly weakened our positions in Burma, more on that to follow. In the Pacific, the Western Allies were also ultra aggressive. The British at one point decided to bring the entirety of their Empire into the war with Germany, this caused significant rebellion in Burma that eventually led the country to form an Alliance with Japan (but not go to war with Britain). That would come later when instead of the US imposing an embargo on Japan, they declared war! The Pacific Fleet was spared from ambush at Pearl Harbor but the USA economy is not behind the war now, so our MPP is significantly less. We were still unprepared to stop the Japanese from invading most of the Pacific but the Americans did arrive in time to save the DEI from their downfall. I had some worries about how the Japanese AI would fare with all of the early fireworks with USSR, UK, and USA but I am very relieved to see that they are putting up a strong fight on all fronts. It's a dog fight in Manchuria, Burma, China and DEI, and they still managed to capture the Philippines and a number of other Pacific Capitals. No where in the Pacific am I firmly in control, and in the West other than North Africa (which is Allied from Casablanca to Baghdad) the path to Victory is full of Axis nemesis. Very good game, one of the most hectic I've played and it's a solo!

erikbengtsson -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/12/2020 2:04:11 PM)
Great to hear. Looking forward to an updated version!

crispy131313 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/14/2020 8:49:40 PM)
Well here you go an updated version! No fireworks just a link! https://www.dropbox.com/s/2w3hbqhrh3jtz1a/Fall%20Weiss%20II%20World%20Map%20v2.1.zip?dl=0

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/17/2020 1:15:05 PM)
Quick heads-up: you have the Aquila as a conversion of the battleship Roma. Except that there was an ocean liner which shared the same name as the BB which was the ship got converted. Note both the actual Roma & Aquila were extant by the end of the war, but the latter didn't have a chance to become fully comissioned.

crispy131313 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/17/2020 3:03:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elessar2 Quick heads-up: you have the Aquila as a conversion of the battleship Roma. Except that there was an ocean liner which shared the same name as the BB which was the ship got converted. Note both the actual Roma & Aquila were extant by the end of the war, but the latter didn't have a chance to become fully comissioned. I've never really looked into it, that's a decision from the stock campaign. If it's incorrect maybe it should be brought upin the main forum. On another note if that's the most glaring error so far that's good news!

crispy131313 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/24/2020 4:12:50 PM)
Has anyone tried this?

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/25/2020 3:01:33 PM)
Oh, yeah. I tried fixing the US build priorities in the scripts, specifically carriers, changed all of the 10's to 40's or 50's... Just checked my saves (by loading as Allies). Most ships apparently come in via scripts, because as of Jan '43 there's exactly 2 ships in the US queue, a carrier (which iirc is one I put in there) and a light cruiser. But a good chunk of the ones which are built keep showing up in the Atlantic, and the AI apparently never uses the Panama Canal... 1943 probably set a record for the most warships built by a single country in a single year in the history of naval warfare, note. Anyway, The Battle of the Coral Sea (early '43) was a total disaster for the USN: 3 CV's (for some reason Hornet didn't join the armada, stayed in LA the entire time), 3 BB's, 5 cruisers, 2 DD's, all toast within 2 turns [I had 6 CV's of my own, destined to have 12 by the end of '44, which is probably too many given that I am starting to run out of escorts]. I lost one CA, tho had to LOL at the lone 3 point tank which used all of the distractions to go amphibious in his port with my ships all around, couldn't spare a single strike on him, he took one of my bases the next turn... Checked in spring '44, and only then were the Essexes in the queue-to come (as in my last run-through) from mid-44 thru the end of 45 (tho my slightly failing eyes undoubtedly deceived me when I saw 2 due in 1948!). By that time their Pacific fleet had 2 CV's, 2 CVL's, 2 BB's, 2 cruisers, and one sub (worthless because the AI doesn't invest in sub tech, at all, have sunk 4 total, incl. British). Again my guess is that it can't buy an expensive carrier (or battleship, nope no Iowas on the way either) if it has already spent too much MPP's that turn (tho as said in my previous post upthread there is apparently a toggle for the AI to ignore that, if I am inferring the script correctly). A year later another US fleet joins them (same area), scratch 2 more flattops... As I suspected, the AI only builds them after it has built everything else, by which time the Pacific is a Japanese lake. You'll simply have to script all of those CV's it would appear, requiring a counterbalancing by eliminating most other AI ship freebies. Meanhoo the European theatre was more balanced, endless Western Allied landings, which my tanks keep killing, but that of course sucks all of the momentum from the Russian front, tho the Caucasus, Stalingrad, and Moscow are all mine now. My sub fleet is nonexistent, and only now do I plan to marshal all of my fighters to regain air superiority over France. Had a bit of fun letting the Italians rampage thru central Africa. [China is now a rump state note, tho I am only now knocking on the doors of India]

Tulius Hostilius -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/25/2020 3:24:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crispy131313 Well here you go an updated version! No fireworks just a link! https://www.dropbox.com/s/2w3hbqhrh3jtz1a/Fall%20Weiss%20II%20World%20Map%20v2.1.zip?dl=0 Hi crispy131313, This is the latest version?

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/25/2020 3:42:55 PM)
Just wanted to add: you may want to also craft a Dec '41 scenario, so as to make testing the Pacific stuff easier.

crispy131313 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/25/2020 4:30:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tulius Hostilius quote: ORIGINAL: crispy131313 Well here you go an updated version! No fireworks just a link! https://www.dropbox.com/s/2w3hbqhrh3jtz1a/Fall%20Weiss%20II%20World%20Map%20v2.1.zip?dl=0 Hi crispy131313, This is the latest version? Yes that is correct.

crispy131313 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/25/2020 4:56:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elessar2 Just wanted to add: you may want to also craft a Dec '41 scenario, so as to make testing the Pacific stuff easier. In all honesty the campaign is possibly too long for me to ever be able to successfully amend the AI, I had only changed the bare minimum to make sure that the AI responds correctly to the changes I made, (examples would be IJN not attacking Pearl Harbour if the USA already joined the war, countries like Greece or Burma not abandoning garrisons if they have joined the Axis rather than Allies, the AI responding to diplomacy better, etc.) This campaign was developed more for PBEM in mind. Even the WiE version was made more for PBEM originally but I really like the campaign for solo play as well which is why I put so much effort into making it a challenge. I actually hope to start some PBEM games again, it's been a very long time since I've played a PBEM match, getting the itch.

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/26/2020 1:48:43 AM)
Fair enough.

Tulius Hostilius -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/26/2020 11:51:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crispy131313 quote: ORIGINAL: Tulius Hostilius quote: ORIGINAL: crispy131313 Well here you go an updated version! No fireworks just a link! https://www.dropbox.com/s/2w3hbqhrh3jtz1a/Fall%20Weiss%20II%20World%20Map%20v2.1.zip?dl=0 Hi crispy131313, This is the latest version? Yes that is correct. Thanks. Just downloaded it to try. Thinking to play with the Germans and the Chinese.

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/26/2020 2:31:46 PM)
Just a few more notes... I did notice a few Panama Canal scripts, but they were only assigned for CV's & HQ's, but not any other type of ship. I have no idea if they can be tweaked if things start getting sunk in the Pacific, or not. Both the research and build scripts apparently work differently than I had assumed: I had thought that it simply rolled the dice for every purchase in each script field, for all units/tech simultaneously, and the "lucky" one got bought. Reading the docs in the files tho makes it clear that that is NOT how it works; instead each tech/unit is rolled for individually, based on the percentage chance in question. But, if the scripts are simply read from top to bottom, then there indeed may not be any MPPs left by the time it gets to the bottom, where all of the ships are, natch. The research scripts tho contained some "forced" buy ones, a few techs w/ 100%, ensuring that they are kept "topped off" no matter what. It may simply require something similar for ship buys.

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/27/2020 1:55:29 AM)
I just edited the US AI build scripts; at the start of each war year, for a period of several months, the west coast will buy only ships, with fleet CV's guaranteed--if all funds aren't gone by the time the program reads the relevant line..... 1942 Feb to June [this presumes they will be at war by the former month] 1943 Jan to May 1944 Jan to March 1941: I may put in one for prewar as well. I'm also going to beef up the fleet scripts by raising both the minimums and maximums. If you want these Crispy I'll find some site [Dropbox is fine I guess] for them.

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/27/2020 2:01:11 AM)
Found another issue: a script ["#NAME= USA Build Up Fleet - Med -> Pacific (Malaya) (1)"] is set to move a number of ships from the Med to the Indian Ocean. Except that if the Italians defeat or defer a Torch/Italy invasion, the script apparently won't fire.

crispy131313 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/27/2020 10:05:40 PM)
If you come up with any new AI scripts that improve the game I would welcome them, especially in the Pacific Theater. I've spent most my energy in the event side.

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (4/28/2020 1:29:02 AM)
Just one question: the dates on each build (or research) script: the help portion of the file says this: quote: ; Purchase Plan identity is determined by #COUNTRY_ID. A country can only have a single plan based on this ; criteria and will be assigned the first valid plan regardless of duplicate script entries (even if the ; remaining control '#' values are different). ; Note: This will also allow you to set up a variety of plans with the same identity but different ; control '#' parameters where the first 'event' satisfied will be the fist plan assigned (for added variability). The 1st two sentences would appear to mean that each country can only have one active plan script at any given time, but the two sets of notes here seem to fully contradict each other. The issue is that the US has both West and East Coast scripts, and for them the dates are not sequential, but overlap, which would imply that they can both fire simultaneously (during the same turn).

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (5/1/2020 3:52:17 PM)
Thru May 1943... My USN build plans are working; he's put 2 CV's into the queue in the space of 3 turns (tho note I made the build %'s 100 for carriers, which means he didn't have funds left over in one turn), + an Alaska super cruiser. [and 2 MTB that I enabled in the scripts just for the heck of it, will likely take them back out] Still didn't buy diddly before that, nor anything else in said 3 turns, but, it's a start. But had a weird diplo bug/feature come out of literally nowhere. In Feb a decision came up offering me friendship with Turkey. They had gotten 1 diplo hit towards the Allies, were at +9 Allies at that moment, so figured I would be swinging it back to zero... Very next turn my spy network reports a fighter in the middle of Turkey. Confused as heck, examined the war map, and noticed that during the following AI turn they had declared war on me! Note Rommel was moving into Palestine at that moment, Syria had become Allied, Iraq had done its coup then surrendered. I think the turn lengths need to be reconjiggled for operational & research as well as economic reasons. Just tested T1 for both the Euro & World scenarios (using your new 30% IM for the Reich in Euro, World kept at the default 50%), and noticed that the native MPP income for World is only 15% more than Euro-for 13 turns a year, vs. 18 in Euro, where Euro income will be 40% greater. I couldn't figure out why I was always running out of funds, couldn't buy what I usually bought in Euro (where, of course I have some extras available such as divisions). Operationally, in World I get, if I start Barbarossa/future Eastern offensives in May, 4-5 clear weather turns. In Euro I can get, early June start, 7-8 clear turns. OK, distances are shorter in World, but I still have to attack the same towns to reach my objectives (World: 5 each on the roads to Leningrad & Moscow, while Euro has 6). In the offseasons I found that I simply don't have the time nor MPPs to rebuild before May comes along, and in the meantime both my sub fleet and my research suffer. I also don't have quite enough time to ensure tech hits in the vital areas before Barbarossa, given that the chits in both scenarios give you +5%. Got Tanks 2 at the end of April '41, so postpone one turn...then get Inf 2 a turn later, now I gotta wait until July. Note: I actually prefer the slower tech pace in general, dislike getting L4's by early '43... Yes, this may indeed be by design, and also historical, but I am simply comparing what is available in both scenarios. I'd peg turn lengths at 12 (24 thus being the effective interval), giving you 15 per year.

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (5/7/2020 2:39:49 AM)
Welp, mostly bad news on the AI front. Note I am still learning the in's and out's here... The AI built one CV before the end of '42 (recall I made the relevant scripts have a 100% chance-if it has the cash on hand). As was the case before tho it typically only bought ships once everything else was bought, so most of his builds will be coming on starting in early '44. I now strongly suspect that it was a mistake to have put ships for the US at the bottom of the script list, if the program indeed reads the lines one at a time. Which means I have a question for the devs, if they are lurking: can I switch the order of the units in the script, put carriers 1st, and thus ensure a build right off the bat? Does the AI buy units first, or technology? As for operational movements, there wasn't any, at least as far as fleet units were concerned. Note all I did was bump the minimum unit requirements up c. 20-40% (so that they will sail in a task force to wherever the script directs them). Even tho by the end of '43 it had 20 ships on the West Coast only a handful moved towards Australia (a minor script not one of the major ones). For the rest it was a sitzkrieg; even after I invaded Hawaii at the end of '43, they didn't do anything.

crispy131313 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (5/13/2020 1:52:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elessar2 Welp, mostly bad news on the AI front. Note I am still learning the in's and out's here... The AI built one CV before the end of '42 (recall I made the relevant scripts have a 100% chance-if it has the cash on hand). As was the case before tho it typically only bought ships once everything else was bought, so most of his builds will be coming on starting in early '44. I now strongly suspect that it was a mistake to have put ships for the US at the bottom of the script list, if the program indeed reads the lines one at a time. Which means I have a question for the devs, if they are lurking: can I switch the order of the units in the script, put carriers 1st, and thus ensure a build right off the bat? Does the AI buy units first, or technology? As for operational movements, there wasn't any, at least as far as fleet units were concerned. Note all I did was bump the minimum unit requirements up c. 20-40% (so that they will sail in a task force to wherever the script directs them). Even tho by the end of '43 it had 20 ships on the West Coast only a handful moved towards Australia (a minor script not one of the major ones). For the rest it was a sitzkrieg; even after I invaded Hawaii at the end of '43, they didn't do anything. I still appreciate you trying! It's tricky to do things with the AI at this scale, something I think is best suited for those paid to do so. I still think this is a great PBEM scenario, although I've yet to test run it with anyone.

Elessar2 -> RE: Fall Weiss II (5/13/2020 5:05:07 PM)
It was buying ships during the periods where that was all it could buy, not quite as many as historical tho. I may experiment with rearranging the units in the scripts by priority, thus putting CV's at the top, BB's one below that, assuming I don't get an error when I do... The endgame was rather sad. It did eventually start following my scripts, first trying to retake Hawaii, which I stomped to pieces, and then sent like 3 waves straight to the Japanese home islands. But the fleet sizes were still far too skimpy, and Kido Butai cleaned house. By Halloween '45, I had sunk the following, in exchange for the loss of Musashi, 2 DD's and 1 CA: 23 BB 1 BC 10 CA 7 CL 20 DD 8 CVE 15 CV [yep, all that he had, all gone. I still had all 12 of mine.] 4 SS 35 total transports too; I didn't lose a single one.

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