warspite1 -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/6/2019 9:59:53 AM)
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ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot Send in the Irish or the Canucks. I suspect that there were more than a few Canadian veterans who weren’t shedding any tears over the IRAs efforts. warspite1 Well there’s a candidate for crass post of the year. quote:
Send in the…. Canucks. Commonwealth forces engage in a poorly conceived, poorly planned and poorly executed operation in World War II. Well Dieppe was hardly a first was it? But of course what you are insinuating is that the British sent in ‘colonials’ to do the dirty work. Of course that completely ignores the debacle in Norway, or in France but I don’t want to deny you your wish to feel victimised – you can wallow in that to your heart’s content – and, as you will know, you are not alone in Canada – but you could always try and educate yourself with the link below about another 'favourite' - Gallipoli, and if you can’t be bothered to read it all – go straight to the Propaganda section, but I recommend you read it all. http://diggerhistory.info/pages-battles/ww1/anzac/gallipoli-facts.htm#Propaganda Indeed there are plenty from these islands who are entitled to feel the same (but let’s not let the facts get in the way of a well ridden hobby-horse you so clearly are eager to mount). quote:
“Send in the Irish”. And what period are you talking about here? I wouldn’t be surprised if you were talking about WWII, but I hope you weren’t for your sake. Here – educate yourself and read this. https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/features/in-service-to-their-country-moving-tales-of-irishmen-who-fought-in-wwii-350818.html If you are talking about earlier history then I would have thought you would have been fully aware that historically, poverty was probably the army’s biggest recruiter – and Ireland and Scotland provided a higher proportion of troops for the British Army because of it. That’s just a fact of life. But perhaps you can give me an example of where the ‘Irish’ were singled out in a specific campaign or battle? But then we have the really unfortunate part of your post: quote:
“I suspect that there were more than a few Canadian veterans who weren’t shedding any tears over the IRAs efforts”. According to your seriously mis-guided and disrespectful comment, you link Canadian veterans (and any legitimate anger and resentment they may have held against a Government/Individuals that sent them into battle) with automatic support for a terrorist group?! How dare you try and speak for them. Maybe some veterans were from Irish stock and supported a united Ireland politically – but what links that with Dieppe, and I say again, how dare you speak for them and assume their support for a terrorist group? The Irish Republican Army was a terrorist outfit. It would be easy for me to recount tale after harrowing, heart-breaking tale of atrocities they carried out against innocent men, women and children. And I could do the same for the loyalist terrorist groups. But there is no point. One group is no worse than the other – Catholic or Protestant, Republican or Loyalist, pro-Irish or pro-British – it doesn’t matter. If one believes blowing arms and legs off the innocent is justified then they are scum. Or do you reserve that opprobrium only for some? Even today you probably actually believe that the British Government was fighting a colonial war with the IRA over Northern Ireland during ‘The Troubles’. But that level of mis-understanding is common amongst those that can’t be bothered to trouble themselves with facts and the truth. Far easier to get off on hyperbole and prejudice. Or you could try and understand. As a start try reading Making Sense of The Troubles (McKittrick and McVea).
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