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exsonic01 -> What is the next plan? (7/2/2019 7:44:26 PM)

We know there will be Steam version soon, and update. I wish to have them soon.

Is there any big pictures / future roadmap for AB? Such as very rough next 1 year plan 2 year plan or something similar. We are all curious about when will be the next major game engine update for AB and what will be included, and what features are currently under development and will begin development or etc.



Tamas -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/5/2019 9:25:36 AM)

The guys are working on some exciting things, and we will be soon ready to announce/show them to you. We just ask for a little bit more patience.



exsonic01 -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/5/2019 2:02:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Tamas

The guys are working on some exciting things, and we will be soon ready to announce/show them to you. We just ask for a little bit more patience.

Thank you!~



22sec -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/5/2019 2:30:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Tamas

The guys are working on some exciting things, and we will be soon ready to announce/show them to you. We just ask for a little bit more patience.


That’s exciting to hear!



deltapooh41 -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/20/2019 1:40:35 PM)

I just bought the game today after waiting sometime for it to come out on Steam. When released on Steam, please integrate any workshop and sales with offsite purchases.

Also, can this game be pushed more toward a modern era? For example: battles with Iran, formations in Syria and elsewhere. There are plenty of plausible scenarios that would involve multiple mechanized factions colliding.



exsonic01 -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/20/2019 9:06:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: deltapooh41
I just bought the game today after waiting sometime for it to come out on Steam. When released on Steam, please integrate any workshop and sales with offsite purchases.

Also, can this game be pushed more toward a modern era? For example: battles with Iran, formations in Syria and elsewhere. There are plenty of plausible scenarios that would involve multiple mechanized factions colliding.

To my best knowledge, devs have some idea about other battlefield, but those are very future plan. As far as I know they will concentrate to European theater, for a while. Maybe several more DLCs?

They also have some idea about modern time frame, but I guess that will be also very far future plan. All of their current short term future plans are based on cold war time frame. There are so many features which players recommended and suggested, some of them lured dev's attention, but devs of AB just don't have enough manpower and support.

You could make a map and faction mod for the region you mentioned. Map modding is not easy, but at least database and unit modeling has smaller hurdle than map works. But current AB game engine cannot support some features like guided munitions and hardkill/softkill APS, so most of the modding attempt should be limited to cold war, or ~2000s at maximum.




deltapooh41 -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/20/2019 10:22:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: exsonic01

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ORIGINAL: deltapooh41
I just bought the game today after waiting sometime for it to come out on Steam. When released on Steam, please integrate any workshop and sales with offsite purchases.

Also, can this game be pushed more toward a modern era? For example: battles with Iran, formations in Syria and elsewhere. There are plenty of plausible scenarios that would involve multiple mechanized factions colliding.

To my best knowledge, devs have some idea about other battlefield, but those are very future plan. As far as I know they will concentrate to European theater, for a while. Maybe several more DLCs?

They also have some idea about modern time frame, but I guess that will be also very far future plan. All of their current short term future plans are based on cold war time frame. There are so many features which players recommended and suggested, some of them lured dev's attention, but devs of AB just don't have enough manpower and support.

You could make a map and faction mod for the region you mentioned. Map modding is not easy, but at least database and unit modeling has smaller hurdle than map works. But current AB game engine cannot support some features like guided munitions and hardkill/softkill APS, so most of the modding attempt should be limited to cold war, or ~2000s at maximum.




Understood. I have a lot of ideas and would like to push the game as close to the modern era as possible. I bought Command: Air/Naval Warfare a while back, but this is the first game that has really caught my attention. I played and modded for Sharpnel's Brigade Combat Team, Armored Task Force, and HPS Decisive Action back in the day. I've wanted to get back to that hobby and hope this is a good place to start.

I also see there is a way to redeem my purchase on Steam when it becomes available.



Lowlaner2012 -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/21/2019 3:11:55 PM)

Really looking forward to the news and update 😃



nikolas93TS -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/21/2019 10:05:12 PM)

We are looking into diversifying combat theaters. It is very likely that next DLCs will go outside Europe, to Middle East.

As for expanding the time span, it will always certainly go towards modern times rather than World War Two (which I personally love, and I have already worked on such mod in past, but market is oversaturated and potential military clients would be more interested in modern simulation).



lancer -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/21/2019 10:22:15 PM)

A non-Europe DLC would be excellent.

Europe is fine but you've already got it well covered.



kevinkins -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/21/2019 11:19:40 PM)

WW2 will be the only logical place for this platform to go to. Yugoslavia fighting Italians does not give anyone a boner. What a waste of development time.

Kevin



exsonic01 -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/22/2019 12:08:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: nikolas93TS
We are looking into diversifying combat theaters. It is very likely that next DLCs will go outside Europe, to Middle East.

Good news, plz consider far east Asia as well if you guyz have some time to spend in the future :)




nikolas93TS -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/22/2019 12:49:56 AM)

I do have an issue with Asia: I don't have any familiarity with languages. I speak sufficient number of European languages to have at least basic understanding what I am reading, but Asian languages and writing standards are total unknown world for me.



exsonic01 -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/22/2019 1:22:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: nikolas93TS
I do have an issue with Asia: I don't have any familiarity with languages. I speak sufficient number of European languages to have at least basic understanding what I am reading, but Asian languages and writing standards are total unknown world for me.

Welp, can't argue with that XD

But I'm curious, what makes you requires to read & understand Asian languages? Because the most of the weapons are based on US and Russian technology, you could use the weapon info of US and USSR for most of the units for both Korea, China, Japan... Their tactical doctrines were also similar with major nations, at least within cold war time frame. Of course there are differences, but in big picture, one could find some similarities.

Also, as a last resort, you could rely on google translator. Or maybe you could find some help from forum.



jersmith -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/22/2019 5:13:00 AM)

WW2 has been done to death. A Cold War game should move on the Modern Era which will help keep this hobby fresh. Another Bulge game? No.



exsonic01 -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/22/2019 2:49:33 PM)

I'm OK with WW2 game based on AB format and system. Core code of this game would perfectly fits well with WW2, because nothing is needed to be added or fixed. But I guess devs are too busy with cold war era already, I don't think they have enough resource to invest for WW2 map and units.

Personally, I agree there are too many WW2 games already in the market. CMx2 engine has a lot of WW2 titles for example, GT series is also good one, and there are RTSs like Steel Division series and CoH series... But I also think that uniqueness of AB (15km x 15km tactical battle in WW2 base... you could truly reenact the battle of Prokhorovka) would still works for WW2 nicely.

I think WW2 in AB is a perfect modding effort target. There are some WW2 models and data in Yugo, and some nations in 1965~1970 use WW2 weapons. That might be a good starting point.

Maybe in the future, who knows? maybe devs try something like a map for battle of Rzhev or battle of Sicily or Caen or Falaise Pocket... But, until the moment when devs decide to go WW2, I think those can be tried from modders. Of course map modding is difficult, but worth a try if someone wants to, isn't it?

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Yugoslavia fighting Italians does not give anyone a boner.

Hmmmmm I tried several Italy vs USSR games and one Italy vs DDR match in 85~91 time frame, it was absolutely crazy but fun. Not sure about "boner" part, but at least those games gave me the moment of tough tactical challenge, and moment of achievement time to time. But I also admit that it was mostly like fighting an elephant only with marshmallow. Yugo is already a good faction, just tried a one game of Yugo vs Brits in 1991, it was fun too but not like Italy vs USSR.



22sec -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/22/2019 3:12:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL

As for expanding the time span, it will always certainly go towards modern times rather than World War Two (which I personally love, and I have already worked on such mod in past, but market is oversaturated and potential military clients would be more interested in modern simulation).


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PanzerCro -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/23/2019 12:58:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Tamas

The guys are working on some exciting things, and we will be soon ready to announce/show them to you. We just ask for a little bit more patience.



Hopefully it is Armored Brigade with new 3D engine, like CC Bloody first :)



deltapooh41 -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/23/2019 9:11:42 PM)

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We are looking into diversifying combat theaters. It is very likely that next DLCs will go outside Europe, to Middle East.

As for expanding the time span, it will always certainly go towards modern times rather than World War Two (which I personally love, and I have already worked on such mod in past, but market is oversaturated and potential military clients would be more interested in modern simulation).



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This is certainly great news. Maneuver/formation warfare isn't dead. I would certainly pay for a campaign DLC covering the invasion of Iraq. I would like to make a campaign invading Iran. Other scenarios can be a war for Water involving Middle Eastern powers. A war in Korea, Taiwan, hell even an penetration operation against China. And that is just involving US forces. So I implore you to move forward in time and just give us the tools to use our imagination. I love building scenarios and working the community to make them challenging.



exsonic01 -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/23/2019 9:39:14 PM)

If it is Middle East for next DLC, I think Golan Heights might be the best one. Sinai would be a good but Sinai is too wide.

Some places in Iraq would be good for Gulf war and Iraq war. Iranian cities like Khorramshahr, Abadan, Ahvaz, and Mehran were places of fierce battle during Iran-Iraq war.



Lowlaner2012 -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/24/2019 2:02:57 PM)

My choice would be middle East, as stated above WWII has been done to death, you've got Combat mission and command ops for that among a lot of others...

Cheers



CCIP-subsim -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/24/2019 4:25:11 PM)

Wild idea that I'd love to see someday: from Armored Brigade to Air Assault Brigade, with the ability to insert and extract forces from the field as the battle goes on.

And Vietnam content to go with it, of course [;)]


(worth noting, of course, that air assault is every bit as relevant to Cold-War-Gone-Hot scenarios, too - so it'd be a great addition on top of what's already here)



nikolas93TS -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/24/2019 6:18:45 PM)

Truth to be told, World War Two would probably require an addition of soft-vehicles / cavalry AI mechanism, and some other stuff like trench lines (the idea was to make them a sort of permanent structure similar to building, as it would be easiest to implement) if we were going to release it as an official DLC or a stand-alone release done well. Proper mechanized forces (for which AB is currently best suited) were fairly rare in World War Two, and plain infantry take hours to cross larger maps, and currently AI doesn't make much difference between an BTR-60 and unarmed truck.

Modern times probably require some more work (PGMs, UAVs, EW, active protection systems etc.) but it pays off better in a long term. The idea is to gradually expand those features as we add new content (heliborne landing at Mount Hermon anybody?) and then do the big step to expand the database. Of course, we hope for and will support people making cool mods :)



Perturabo -> RE: What is the next plan? (7/24/2019 11:56:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: nikolas93TS

and some other stuff like trench lines (the idea was to make them a sort of permanent structure similar to building, as it would be easiest to implement)

Why aren't trench lines in vanilla AB, though? Trench lines are still a thing as demonstrated in numerous modern conflicts. It's just that they no longer have the near-invincibility they had in WWI, but it was already a WWII thing.

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ORIGINAL: nikolas93TS

and plain infantry take hours to cross larger maps

Not a problem. We're talking about a situation where you have a regimental attack frontage smaller than minimal size of a map and IIRC task depth wasn't very impressive either.



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