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castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/7/2021 7:01:45 PM)
if you have to answer him please just reply and don't quote him as I've already got enough of my stupidity dose for this week [image]local://upfiles/13774/667A584BBBB94645B450F6A53D1F3722.jpg[/image]

Dili -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/8/2021 4:26:49 AM)
quote: Ship designed to specifically support amphibious landings is effective when supporting amphibious landings. I imagine that the Japanese were equally as frustrated in reality with the Allied ability to turn up and deliver high explosives. Basically you chose to not even compare...so you choose to not think.

Encircled -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/8/2021 7:38:20 AM)
Still interested to know why Castor is getting these results with the dive (and Mundy as well) that I'm just not seeing in most AARs and in my games

BBfanboy -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/8/2021 12:20:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Encircled Still interested to know why Castor is getting these results with the dive (and Mundy as well) that I'm just not seeing in most AARs and in my games Version of the game could have some effect. I have not yet switched to the Andy Mac improved AI files for the stock scenarios but I think changes to the air war model could have been part of that.

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/12/2021 9:45:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy quote: ORIGINAL: Encircled Still interested to know why Castor is getting these results with the dive (and Mundy as well) that I'm just not seeing in most AARs and in my games Version of the game could have some effect. I have not yet switched to the Andy Mac improved AI files for the stock scenarios but I think changes to the air war model could have been part of that. Hmm, we are running the latest patch version but I have not seen a difference to it since release a decade ago. Always been working the same, no idea.

Alpha77 -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/12/2021 2:55:12 PM)
Sure the "dive" issue is still valid in vanilla scens w/ latest patch, it might be playing some mod(s) increase the issue. I think a certain part of "missunderstandings" in this forum comes from the problem people playing different mods. Eg. the nuclear missiles issue here, I just read an AAR were in 44 these boats were also used and did NOT achieve the results shown in this AAR. In fact they seemed quite weak (aka more realistic) however it was also against a bigger island (Saipan). Possibly the island size 1 here contributed also to it being "nuked" I guess the other AAR was a standard scen while what Castor plays here is some kinda mod. Still he seems to blame "the game" [:-] He is not the only one - but it´s not an excuse imho. Edit, so I was right here is what they play: BigBabes scen 28 with extended map

Alpha77 -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/12/2021 8:10:40 PM)
Interesting MM taking Mark Felton as source (even if he says "only for the footage, but for what is it worth then?). I was subbed to him for a while but then got bored and noted some inacuracies so unsubbed. Here a vid about Jagtigers in the Ardennes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOAfIXy-Pgc He says his sources are Wiki and "Pinterest" But even Wiki has to say: Einsatz 1944 Von der US-Armee im Januar 1945 zerstörter Jagdtiger, bei Rimlingen in Lothringen Im Oktober 1944 (die Abteilung befand sich inzwischen in Döllersheim) trafen die ersten zwölf fabrikneuen Jagdpanzer VI Jagdtiger bei der Abteilung ein. Die Ausbildung wurde fortgesetzt, wobei Soldaten der Abteilung direkt im Nibelungenwerk (dem Herstellerwerk) mitarbeiteten, um sich mit den Jagdpanzern vertraut zu machen. Weitere sieben Jagdpanzer wurden im November zugewiesen. Im Dezember verlegte die Abteilung mit 16 Jagdpanzern an die Westfront, um am deutschen Angriff in den Ardennen teilzunehmen. Der ungünstige Verlauf der Offensive verhinderte einen Einsatz der Abteilung, die stattdessen nun am Unternehmen Nordwind teilnehmen sollte.[6] Did Felton confuse Ardennes with Op. Nordwind[:D] Well the English Wiki makes it sound a bit as if Nordwind was part of the Ardennes offensive (but this had ended before Nordwind started or not[&:]) Once re-equipped, the battalion was again split up, with the 1st Company assigned to the 15th Army on the northern flank of the German Ardennes Offensive and the 3rd assigned to the 17th SS Panzergrenadier Division Götz von Berlichingen to the south, where it would fight in Operation Nordwind in January. By February, the two companies had reunited at Landau in the Palatinate, and by the end of the month, they were reinforced to a strength of 41 Jagdtigers. In April, it fell back to Austria, from where it was to receive new vehicles from the Nibelungenwerk Factory, and finally reached its conclusion in the war under the command of Army Group Ostmark near Linz.[9]

mind_messing -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/12/2021 8:25:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alpha77 Interesting MM taking Mark Felton as source (even if he says "only for the footage, but for what is it worth then?). It was the best collection of stock footage of these weapons in action that I could find after a cursory search. As for what it's worth? Well, it's one thing to sit behind a keyboard and say "Oh, these weapons are completely overpowered!" and another thing to actually see what these weapons systems were like in action. I think it made the point well.

Alpha77 -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/12/2021 8:37:14 PM)
Well the game itself proved you wrong already, see my post above. As in "stock" these rockets seem to work ok. I believe in the other AAR I read were 8-9 of the rocket boats supporting a landing at Saipan and they killed 3 squads + disabling a dozen or so more...seems fine [:)] Edit, when reading comments under Feltons vids somehow one can lose hope for humanity...[>:] Eg.: "Woah - The profile looks a lot like an M1 Abrams. Curious how the stats compare in terms of weight and range. I know it's insanely slow compared to the M1 - and I'm pretty sure the M1 outclasses the range - but the profile is interesting. " (M1s really? lol) "Reversing away from JagdTiger thinking is safe with 1km distant ... Boom!!! And is gone. JagdTiger held the longest range kill in WW2 by able to destroy an allied tank 4000m (4Km) away, is 4000m , not 400m." (yeah a dozen JT´s maybe got into action the others broke down or simply were abandoned for lack of fuel [8\|]) "Der Jagdtiger ist mir der Liebste Panzer der Wehrmacht, schade, dass es so wenige von ihm gab." "My answer at the video: "Yep a crap piece of **** that broke down 50% of the time it moved more than 50km and could not go over bridges due to weight... really?") "I have seen many of your films Mark and can only say how amazing they are to watch. Your research is absolutely in depth. Even German pronunciation is excellent. Thank you for taking so much trouble in your archiving and presentation." (Such in depth research...loL) "Is this any good in war thunder 6.7 not 7 or 8 with cold war tanks" [X(] "Not your normal opening music but a great video as always. I watch a lot of videos on YT and I find a few from posters that I feel is not up to their normal good work. I have watched a TON of your videos and have not yet find one that was not up to your great work. Thank you and as always please keep up the great work." (3 x great in 3 sentences is not enough imho why not put 5 x great ?) "One of the Best parts of my day is when one of Mark's videos pops up on my YT feed" (Imagine how bad his life must be [X(]) (I hope this does not insult the Mark Felton fan MM?)

mind_messing -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/12/2021 9:10:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alpha77 Well the game itself proved you wrong already, see my post above. As in "stock" these rockets seem to work ok. I believe in the other AAR I read were 8-9 of the rocket boats supporting a landing at Saipan and they killed 3 squads + disabling a dozen or so more...seems fine [:)] The differences between Saipan and Marcus (and the difference in units defending) and the subsequent difference in results are important to note.

Alpha77 -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/12/2021 9:14:45 PM)
I noted the difference above already and I now I am taking Castors stance and avoid your posts, cause you seem not to read at all or probably on purpose "missinterpret" what others say, to fit to your narrative [>:] In English it is called "strawman" arguments or logical fallacies I guess? https://effectiviology.com/straw-man-arguments-recognize-counter-use/ Seems so - from above link: Examples of strawman arguments The following is a typical example of a strawman argument: Teaching assistant: the homework assignment was much harder than we thought, so I think we should give a few extra points to students who completed it. Professor: that’s a terrible idea. If we give everyone a perfect score for no reason, students won’t bother working hard in the future. In this example, the professor uses a strawman argument, by misrepresenting their assistant’s stance in three ways: The professor argues against giving everyone a bonus, while the teaching assistant suggested giving it only to students who completed the assignment. The professor argues against giving students a perfect score, while their assistant suggested giving students only a few extra points. The professor argues against giving students a bonus for no reason, while their assistant suggested giving them the bonus because the assignment was harder than expected. In doing all of this, the professor makes it much easier for themself to attack their assistant’s stance. Keep in mind that it doesn’t matter whether the overall claims of the professor who is using the strawman are true or not (i.e. that if everyone got a perfect score for no reason, then students won’t work hard in the future). This is because the professor’s argument is a fallacious misrepresentation of their opponent’s stance, meaning that it’s entirely irrelevant to the discussion in the first place. Another example of a strawman is the following: Alex: I think that a bigger portion of our company’s budget should go to customer support, because we’re currently struggling in that area. Bob: if we spend all of our money on customer support like you’re suggesting, we’ll go bankrupt in a year. In this example, Bob is using a strawman, when he distorts Alex’s original stance in order to make it easier to attack. Specifically, while Alex proposes that the company should spend a bigger portion of their budget on customer support, Bob attacks the idea that the company should spend all of their budget on customer support, which is a different, much more extreme stance (i.e. a strawman).

Alpha77 -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/12/2021 10:17:09 PM)
Btw. re. MMs Mark Feltons video here is what he said: "Worth watching for some of the footage here, before making judgements on what should be "realistic"." Note he uses the "worth watching" in relation with what "should be realistic" meaning he did NOT use the Felton vid jsut for the footage as he claims but for realism. Then when others "expose" Felton he back tracks and says it was just for the film footage - which is also not particular impressive even a bunch of the bigger china cracker fireworks can make a lot of smoke and noise [;)] It would only have some worth for the topic if it was shown what the rocket fire actually does to a target(!) in this case men in forts6 (what ever is represented in reality by the "6"). Even not some practise targets are to be seen in the vid showered by these rockets. [:(]

mind_messing -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/13/2021 8:19:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alpha77 I noted the difference above already and I now I am taking Castors stance and avoid your posts, cause you seem not to read at all or probably on purpose "missinterpret" what others say, to fit to your narrative [>:] [edit for brevity] Could you please illustrate where this is the case? As for adopting the same stance as castor, please feel free. Birds of a feather stick together and there seems to be a growing flock of ostriches on the forums. You'll forgive me if I don't yet appreciate the magnitude of my loss... quote: ORIGINAL: Alpha77 Btw. re. MMs Mark Feltons video here is what he said: "Worth watching for some of the footage here, before making judgements on what should be "realistic"." Note he uses the "worth watching" in relation with what "should be realistic" meaning he did NOT use the Felton vid jsut for the footage as he claims but for realism. Read post #1641. I included the specific reference to the footage (as opposed to say, the narrative, or the views presented) because that was the relevant primary source material in the video. For the sake of transparency, I was aware of Felton's detractors before posting the video (having read the same Reddit thread that Evoken did) which was part of my reasoning for directing people to focus on the footage specifically. I make no judgement myself on Felton. I've not engaged enough with his material to have an informed opinion (and I'd likely take his published works as a benchmark than YouTube shorts) but I'm sure you'd understand if I'd like something with a little more academic credentials than a random individual on Reddit. As for realism, what aspect of the footage is unrealistic? quote: Then when others "expose" Felton he back tracks and says it was just for the film footage - which is also not particular impressive even a bunch of the bigger china cracker fireworks can make a lot of smoke and noise Again, read post #1641. As for the impressiveness of so called "china cracker fireworks", the USN seemed to take a different view.

Alpha77 -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/13/2021 11:46:41 AM)
JUST FOR INFO/FUN, not for "realism" in game. Vid with BM21 launchers, looks impressive. One certainly would NOT be on the target area... those system are mobile which makes sense look the large dust/smoke cloud easy target for counter battery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vZKXGRpf5c

WriterNotViking -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/23/2021 12:41:32 AM)
How goes the war, Castor?

PaxMondo -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/24/2021 12:51:24 AM)
+1 Agreed, can we get back to the AAR?

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/25/2021 12:07:30 PM)
the war went on but the AAR didn't because the point when the Felton video was posted in the AAR it became so absurd to me that I thought if green buttoning someone doesn't even help to get rid of this nonsense why even having the AAR going on just to feed a troll... oh well, here we go, until the next absurd youtube video to support someone's point about the Earth being flat... AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 23, 45 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Saipan at 118,96 [image]local://upfiles/13774/44614DFCF4DD4D07AD2573888C77963F.jpg[/image] Japanese Ships SS I-58, hits 14 Allied Ships CVL Cabot BB Wisconsin CL Biloxi DD Bryant DD Boyd DD Cowell DD Colahan DD Claxton DD Caperton as the enemy turned his Armada around after cancelling the invasion of the Mariana's we have our subs hunting down the damaged Essex CV when I-58 engages one of the main carrier groups but missed CVL Cabot with a full spread of six torps... lots and lots of depth charges dropped in return but I-58 survives in a moderately damaged state after a hit and 13 near misses... SS I-58 launches 6 torpedoes at CVL Cabot I-58 diving deep .... DD Cowell attacking submerged sub .... DD Colahan attacking submerged sub .... DD Claxton attacking submerged sub .... DD Caperton attacking submerged sub .... DD Cowell attacking submerged sub .... DD Colahan attacking submerged sub .... DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Claxton fails to find sub and abandons search DD Caperton attacking submerged sub .... DD Cowell attacking submerged sub .... DD Cowell is out of ASW ammo DD Cowell is out of ASW ammo DD Cowell is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan attacking submerged sub .... DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Caperton fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Cowell fails to find sub and abandons search DD Colahan attacking submerged sub .... DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Caperton fails to find sub and abandons search DD Colahan fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Colahan attacking submerged sub .... DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan attacking submerged sub .... DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan attacking submerged sub .... DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo DD Colahan is out of ASW ammo Escort abandons search for sub

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/25/2021 12:11:35 PM)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Saipan at 118,96 [image]local://upfiles/13774/F61F3773040C4532B936337EAD8AC96B.jpg[/image] Japanese Ships SS I-5, hits 16, heavy damage Allied Ships CVE Thetis Bay DE Harmon DE George with the subs being the only asset available to hurt the enemy fleet it's I-5 that engages a slow CVE but all torps miss the escort carrier... damn lucky bugger... in return our sub suffers as she is attacked by two DEs which again prove way deadlier than the DDs... after being hit by depth charges the sub has to surface and is sunk... SS I-5 launches 4 torpedoes at CVE Thetis Bay I-5 diving deep .... DE Harmon fails to find sub, continues to search... DE George attacking submerged sub .... SS I-5 forced to surface! DE George firing on surfaced sub .... DE Harmon firing on surfaced sub .... DE George firing on surfaced sub .... DE Harmon firing on surfaced sub .... DE Harmon firing on surfaced sub .... DE George firing on surfaced sub .... DE Harmon firing on surfaced sub .... DE George firing on surfaced sub .... DE Harmon firing on surfaced sub .... DE George firing on surfaced sub .... DE Harmon firing on surfaced sub .... DE George firing on surfaced sub .... Sub slips beneath the waves

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/25/2021 12:16:10 PM)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Saipan at 116,94 [image]local://upfiles/13774/75CA3E61998D47B18FC43D3FA5980A78.jpg[/image] Japanese Ships SS I-4, hits 1 Allied Ships CV Bunker Hill, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Dortch but then it's I-4 that sights and succesfully engages heavily damaged Bunker Hill putting two more torpedoes into the ship... the additional ammo storage explosion isn't even needed, that carrier is a confirmed kill, after 1 Kaiten, 4 torps and 2 ammo storage explosions... Ammo storage explosion on CV Bunker Hill SS I-4 launches 4 torpedoes at CV Bunker Hill DD Dortch fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Dortch fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Dortch attacking submerged sub .... DD Dortch is out of ASW ammo DD Dortch is out of ASW ammo DD Dortch is out of ASW ammo DD Dortch attacking submerged sub .... DD Dortch is out of ASW ammo DD Dortch is out of ASW ammo DD Dortch is out of ASW ammo DD Dortch attacking submerged sub .... DD Dortch is out of ASW ammo DD Dortch is out of ASW ammo DD Dortch is out of ASW ammo DD Dortch is out of ASW ammo Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Saipan at 118,96 Japanese Ships SS I-11, hits 18, heavy damage Allied Ships DE Fieberling DE Currier DE Harmon DE George I-11 trying to slip into a CVE group but being depth charged... the sub is about to sink... SS I-11 launches 2 torpedoes at DE Fieberling I-11 diving deep .... DE Harmon attacking submerged sub .... DE George attacking submerged sub .... DE Harmon fails to find sub and abandons search DE George fails to find sub, continues to search... DE George fails to find sub, continues to search... DE George fails to find sub, continues to search... DE George attacking submerged sub .... DE George is out of ASW ammo DE George is out of ASW ammo DE George is out of ASW ammo Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Marcus Island at 119,97 Japanese Ships SS I-28, hits 16, and is sunk Allied Ships BB New Jersey CA Chicago II CA Canberra II CL Santa Fe DD Erben DD Haraden DD Lewis Hancock DD Paul Hamilton DD Halligan come one now... finishing Bunker Hill was achieved today but the unsuccesful other attacks are painful now as I-28 is the next sub sunk today... SS I-28 is sighted by escort I-28 diving deep .... DD Haraden attacking submerged sub .... DD Lewis Hancock fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Paul Hamilton fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Halligan attacking submerged sub .... SS I-28 forced to surface! DD Halligan firing on surfaced sub .... DD Haraden firing on surfaced sub .... DD Lewis Hancock firing on surfaced sub .... Sub slips beneath the waves

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/25/2021 12:21:05 PM)
the air losses list confirms what isn't needed to be confirmed, CV Bunker Hill was sunk by sub attacks... means the trip towards the Marianas has cost the USN an Essex class CV and a total of 300 carrier based aircraft when the operation was aborted and the enemy Armada heading towards Hawaii... it has cost us a dozen fighters and four subs... I'd immediately take such a result any time but losing three subs today for a CVL and a CVE being missed angers me a little but the whole operation again convinces me that keeping the subs back and mass use them in one "decisive" battle after another is the right strategy (in the game)... losing three subs for one succesful attack on an escorted freighter sure isn't worth it... [image]local://upfiles/13774/67464BDC783A40A5A267FD4770D93E7A.jpg[/image]

PaxMondo -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/25/2021 8:21:51 PM)
Yeah, the allied end-war ASW bonus (the under-the-hood one) is really deadly to the IJ subs. I think you've come up with as good a way to use them as any .... they are going to die, if you can pick off some stragglers, that's pretty good in my book.

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/26/2021 9:53:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo Yeah, the allied end-war ASW bonus (the under-the-hood one) is really deadly to the IJ subs. I think you've come up with as good a way to use them as any .... they are going to die, if you can pick off some stragglers, that's pretty good in my book. the subs have accounted for at least 6-8 CV/CVL/CVE in this campaign. Without their attacks these carriers would not have been sunk

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/26/2021 12:08:34 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 29, 45 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 23 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 8 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 4 damaged Airbase hits 9 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 22 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 5000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 5 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 5000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 7 Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 12 Aircraft Attacking: 7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 5000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 5 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged Runway hits 8 Aircraft Attacking: 5 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 5000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 7 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-102b Randy: 3 destroyed on ground E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged Airbase hits 11 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 16 Aircraft Attacking: 7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 5000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 18 Aircraft Attacking: 5 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 5000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 3 Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 4 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 5000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 5 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-84r Frank: 1 destroyed on ground No Allied losses Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 3 Aircraft Attacking: 5 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 5000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Air attack on Darwin , at 76,124 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 7 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed on ground E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 14 Aircraft Attacking: 7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 5000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb Mundy does a night bombing low level tactical attack on Darwin's level 8 airfield... quite surprising to me because I know he is thinking the same about tactical night attacks in the game as I do... the result? The usual nuke from these attacks of course as the B-29 and their huge payload is enough to totally knock out the airbase... a level 8 airbase in one go, destroying 50% of the aircraft there and damaging 30% of the rest... got five AA units there, they do nothing... some B-29 hit balloons but the end result of this attack is devastating and he only loses 4 bombers attacking at over 20 hexes range... like I've said, we both got the same oppinion on night bombing in the game so I wonder if this is the start of a tactical night bombing campaign which I don't hope because if it is I will retaliate it with some fency other stuff one can do at night in the game... [image]local://upfiles/13774/31C7E338D8334818AB5AA1E286271472.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/26/2021 12:11:52 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 10, 45 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Truk at 110,103 Japanese Ships PB Ryusei Maru PB Nanshin Maru PB Uchide Maru PB Nichiro Maru PB Hakata Maru #2 PB Eguchi Maru #4 PB Yachio Maru PB Wafu Maru PB Tatsui Maru Allied Ships SS Albacore SS Albacore launches 2 torpedoes at PB Ryusei Maru Albacore diving deep .... PB Eguchi Maru #4 fails to find sub and abandons search PB Yachio Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Wafu Maru fails to find sub and abandons search PB Tatsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Yachio Maru fails to find sub and abandons search PB Tatsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Tatsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Tatsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Tatsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... PB Tatsui Maru fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 31,22 [image]local://upfiles/13774/158E6AED23644796B81CE348C978FCD2.jpg[/image] Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft B7A2 Grace x 33 N1K2-J George x 45 Ki-84r Frank x 23 Japanese aircraft losses B7A2 Grace: 2 damaged Allied Ships AKV Hammondsport, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage DE Pheasant, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk DE Hind, Bomb hits 1 xAK Shahzada, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage after the USN retreating from the Marianas it has become the usual drole de guerre all over the map with literally nothing happening for weeks, hence only sporadic updates... this turn was like a highlight as an enemy convoy got to close to Bombay and was immediately punished for it... Aircraft Attacking: 11 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 11 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 8 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb Magazine explodes on DE Pheasant Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AKV Hammondsport Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Shahzada Massive explosion on DE Hind -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 31,22 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft B7A2 Grace x 28 Ki-84r Frank x 24 Japanese aircraft losses B7A2 Grace: 1 damaged Allied Ships DE Hind, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk xAK Shahzada, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage AKV Hammondsport, Bomb hits 13, and is sunk the Graces are so effective in the dive bomber role I preferre having them loaded with bombs than torpedoes... all four ships of the convoy were sunk... Aircraft Attacking: 10 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 14 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x B7A2 Grace releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Shahzada Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DE Hind Magazine explodes on DE Hind Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AKV Hammondsport

Rusty1961 -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/26/2021 2:18:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe No more comments from me, in fact I am going to quit reading this AAR since it appears that you block people who want to help you. You really think I'd care? Go and keep posting your Nazi stuff that seems to be accepted on the main forum. [sm=00000959.gif][sm=happy0065.gif]

Rusty1961 -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/26/2021 2:21:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe No more comments from me, in fact I am going to quit reading this AAR since it appears that you block people who want to help you. [:-][sm=sign0003.gif]

WriterNotViking -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/26/2021 6:39:04 PM)
Thanks for the updates, and congratulations on another confirmed carrier kill. It's not unreasonable to assume Mundy's B-29 night raid has its roots somewhere in the frustration he must be feeling with his progress. Regardless, goodwill between opponents is essential, and I hope the situation is resolved to mutual satisfaction. More emphatically, I sincerely hope that the next time a reader feels the need to discuss a topic in detail or engage at length with another poster, they will exercise the common courtesy of doing so in a different thread.

29000Kevin -> RE: AAR 1944 (6/26/2021 9:07:36 PM)
And I come back to this form to find an endless argument that has torpedoed any sympathy I've ever had with Mind_messing. [image]https://i.imgflip.com/5en3sw.jpg[/image] And I've unlocked the ability to make and use memes in this forum! MUH AHA HAAHA HA!!! I won't even question the air combat that happened at the start of 1945 at the Marianas... Speaking of 1945 you should change this AAR title to AAR 1945 instead of AAR 1944. Now to mention the earlier talk about late PBEM games that went to 1946... or how they are so rare. I've so far seen only 3 of them. Although 2 of them were just a summery of what happened during the war after the (the same, believe or not) player stopped posting monthly updates on the AARs. You get to see the aftermath of what 4.4 years of warfare and destruction in the Pacific grand campaign really looks like. I can provide a link to them if you guys want to.

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1945 (6/27/2021 3:28:21 PM)
Have changed it to 45 several times already but people keep quoting or replying to 44 posts so it reverts back [:D] No combat report but the operational report as I wanna show you the sub spottings as I have done earlier... now the difference in the last days/weeks is the fact that the USN gotta be running low on subs and their numbers have drastically decreased within our shipping lanes that are covered by air ASW/nav search... and that means that our op losses of bombers/float planes on nav search have also gone drastically down, now around 1-2 a day from 7-10 a day... over 170 enemy subs have been reported sunk so were are most likely somewhere around 150 actually sunk and this has cost us at least 3,000 aircraft lost to ops... so in total it's a 1:2 loss in victory points but it also meant that the enemy subs were mostly ineffective as we haven't lost a single major warship to subs, their best hits were a torp on a CVL twice... OPERATIONAL REPORT FOR Feb 11, 45 86th JAAF AF Coy packing for load on PB Choko Maru #5 (TF 200), 1 day(s) remaining 86th JAAF AF Coy packing for load on PB Hakkaisan Maru (TF 200), 1 day(s) remaining Repairs completed on E No.84 at Osaka/Kyoto, ship returned to service Repairs completed on E No.82 at Osaka/Kyoto, ship returned to service Repairs completed on E No.47 at Osaka/Kyoto, ship returned to service Repairs completed on E No.40 at Osaka/Kyoto, ship returned to service Repairs completed on E No.38 at Osaka/Kyoto, ship returned to service Repairs completed on E No.37 at Osaka/Kyoto, ship returned to service Repairs completed on E No.35 at Osaka/Kyoto, ship returned to service Repairs completed on E No.33 at Osaka/Kyoto, ship returned to service Repairs completed on E No.13 at Osaka/Kyoto, ship returned to service Repairs completed on E No.11 at Osaka/Kyoto, ship returned to service Repairs completed on ML G-211 at Wakkanai, ship returned to service CS Convoy TF 65 begins loading Resources at Fusan for delivery to Fukuoka 86th JAAF AF Coy packing for load on PB Choko Maru #5 (TF 200), 1 day(s) remaining 86th JAAF AF Coy packing for load on PB Hakkaisan Maru (TF 200), 1 day(s) remaining TF 109 awaiting unloading at Kendari E13A1b Jake sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 111,116 near Tabar Island, speed 13, Moving Northwest B6N2 Jill sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 51,87 near Lingga, speed 16, Moving East Ki-46-III Dinah sighting report: 2 Allied ships at 41,72 near Sabang, speed 17, Moving East G3M3 Nell reports diving submarine at 107, 103 near Satawal G3M3 Nell reports turbulence in water at 107, 103 near Satawal G3M3 Nell reports conning tower at 107, 103 near Satawal G3M3 Nell reports object under water at 107, 103 near Satawal G3M3 Nell reports shadow in water at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports object under water at 107, 103 near Satawal G3M3 Nell reports submarine wake at 107, 103 near Satawal E13A1b Jake sighting report: 2 Allied ships at 106,61 near Kochi, speed 18, Moving Northwest G3M3 Nell reports diving submarine at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports shape below surface at 110, 103 near Truk G3M3 Nell reports shape below surface at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports shape below surface at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports conning tower at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports possible submarine at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports object near surface at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports shape below surface at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports object near surface at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports diving submarine at 110, 88 near Pagan P1Y2 Frances reports periscope wake at 91, 96 near Babeldaob J1N1-C Irving reports periscope wake at 114, 117 near Ponape D4Y4 Judy sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 106,96 near Guam, speed 15, Moving Northwest E13A1b Jake sighting report: 5 Allied ships at 115,81 near Chichi-jima, speed 16, Moving West Ki-46-III Dinah reports object near surface at 110, 88 near Pagan Ki-49-IIa Helen reports periscope at 110, 103 near Truk Ki-49-IIa Helen reports diving submarine at 110, 103 near Truk Ki-49-IIa Helen reports submarine at 110, 103 near Truk Ki-49-IIa Helen from 58th Sentai attacking an Allied SS at 110,103 Ki-49-IIa Helen reports shadow in water at 110, 103 near Truk Allied Heavy Bomber sighted over Tinian Allied Recon sighted over Lae Allied Aircraft sighted over Tinian Allied Aircraft sighted over Lae Ki-46-III Dinah from 28th Sentai at Chichi-jima grounded due to maintenance G3M3 Nell from K-703 Hikotai at Guam grounded due to maintenance G3M3 Nell from K-703 Hikotai at Guam grounded due to maintenance J1N1-C Irving from T-4 Hikotai at Ponape grounded due to maintenance Ki-46-III Dinah from 81st I.F.Chutai/A at Ponape grounded due to maintenance Ki-46-III Dinah from 81st Sentai/C at Hyderabad grounded due to maintenance B6N2 Jill reports submarine wake at 51, 87 near Lingga Ki-46-III Dinah sighting report: 9 Allied ships at 37,56 near Little Andaman, speed 18, Moving Southwest B6N2 Jill sighting report: 1 Allied ship at 103,61 near Kanoya, speed 13, Moving East B6N2 Jill sighting report: 10 Allied ships at 102,63 near Tanegashima, speed 18, Moving East B6N2 Jill reports diving submarine at 105, 62 near Kochi G3M3 Nell reports shadow in water at 107, 103 near Satawal G3M3 Nell reports periscope at 107, 103 near Satawal G3M3 Nell reports possible submarine at 107, 103 near Satawal G3M3 Nell reports submarine wake at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports shadow in water at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports object under water at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports submarine wake at 110, 88 near Pagan J1N1-C Irving reports oil slick at 110, 88 near Pagan E13A1b Jake from 951 Ku T-5 attacking SS S-28 at 98,130 SS S-28 is reported HIT G3M3 Nell reports submarine wake at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell from K-702 Hikotai attacking a 'S' War Emergency class SS at 110,103 G3M3 Nell reports possible submarine at 110, 103 near Truk G3M3 Nell reports periscope at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports shadow in water at 110, 103 near Truk G3M3 Nell reports object near surface at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports submarine at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports periscope at 110, 103 near Truk G3M3 Nell reports diving submarine at 110, 103 near Truk G3M3 Nell reports radio transmissions at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports conning tower at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports periscope at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell from K-702 Hikotai attacking a Gato class SS at 110,88 G3M3 Nell reports object under water at 110, 88 near Pagan G3M3 Nell reports periscope at 110, 88 near Pagan P1Y2 Frances reports submarine at 91, 96 near Babeldaob P1Y2 Frances from 901 Ku T-1 attacking a 'S' 1942 and 1943 class SS at 91,96 P1Y2 Frances reports submarine at 91, 96 near Babeldaob P1Y2 Frances reports possible submarine at 91, 96 near Babeldaob P1Y2 Frances reports possible submarine at 91, 96 near Babeldaob P1Y2 Frances reports object under water at 91, 96 near Babeldaob J1N1-C Irving sighting report: 5 Allied ships at 119,113 near Ponape, speed 20, Moving Northwest D4Y4 Judy reports suspected submarine at 106, 95 near Guam E13A1b Jake reports submarine at 110, 88 near Pagan E13A1b Jake reports submarine at 110, 88 near Pagan E13A1b Jake reports shadow in water at 110, 88 near Pagan E13A1b Jake reports object under water at 110, 88 near Pagan E13A1b Jake reports turbulence in water at 110, 88 near Pagan Ki-46-III Dinah reports periscope wake at 47, 72 near Langsa Ki-49-IIa Helen reports conning tower at 50, 40 near Diamond Harbour Ki-49-IIa Helen reports turbulence in water at 50, 40 near Diamond Harbour Ki-49-IIa Helen reports periscope wake at 50, 40 near Diamond Harbour Ki-49-IIa Helen reports shadow in water at 110, 103 near Truk Ki-49-IIa Helen reports shadow in water at 110, 103 near Truk Ki-49-IIa Helen from 58th Sentai attacking an Allied SS at 110,103 a Grampus class SS is reported HIT TF 186 shadowed by Allied Aircraft at 132,72 near Marcus Island Allied Aircraft sighted over Truk Allied Recon sighted over Ponape Allied Recon sighted over Lae Allied Aircraft sighted over Kusaie Island Allied Aircraft sighted over Madras Allied Aircraft sighted over Warangal F-5A Lightning sighted over Cocanada Allied Recon sighted over Ponape Allied Aircraft sighted over Lae Allied Fighter sighted over Kusaie Island Allied Heavy Bomber sighted over Madras Allied Recon sighted over Warangal Allied Torpedo Bomber sighted over Cocanada Ki-46-III Dinah from 38th Sentai/A is damaged on landing Ki-46-III Dinah from 38th Sentai/B at Padang grounded due to maintenance Ki-46-III Dinah from 2nd Sentai at Port Blair grounded due to maintenance Ki-46-III Dinah from 38th Sentai/B is damaged on landing Ki-49-IIa Helen from 58th Sentai is damaged on landing Ki-46-III Dinah from 2nd Sentai at Port Blair grounded due to maintenance Ki-46-III Dinah from 28th Sentai is damaged on landing H8K2 Emily from 901 Ku T-4 at Torokina grounded due to maintenance No additional repairs possible on SS I-47 using currently assigned resources at Guam TF 4 does not have enough fuel to complete mission TF 94 does not have enough fuel to complete mission TF 146 does not have enough fuel to complete mission TF 209 does not have enough fuel to complete mission CS Convoy TF 101 begins loading Oil at Medan for delivery to Singapore CS Convoy TF 123 begins loading Oil at Palembang for delivery to Singapore CS Convoy TF 202 begins loading Oil at Shikuka for delivery to Wakkanai Delayed planes for the aircraft pool: 0 (2) x B6N2a Jill, 1 (0) x D4Y3 Judy, 4 (13) x E13A1 Jake, 0 (2) x M6A1 Seiran 15 (17) x Ki-84r Frank 124th Division takes replacements from Harbin Low garrison leads to damage and 1 VP loss from partisan attack at Nanking (91, 52)! Low garrison leads to damage and 1 VP loss from partisan attack at Shaohing (91, 56)! Low garrison leads to damage and 1 VP loss from partisan attack at Suchow (91, 47)! Saeki Ku T-1 arrives at Calcutta K-105 Hikotai arrives at Calcutta 25th Sentai arrives at Calcutta 44th Shinbu-tai arrives at Utsonomiya [image]local://upfiles/13774/296BD321591C4A388B8ABC8E574E3005.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: AAR 1945 (6/27/2021 3:32:23 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Feb 12, 45 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Laoag at 81,71 [image]local://upfiles/13774/C8A54D32323540688929418B2D3388C0.jpg[/image] Japanese Ships E Shiga AMC Gokoku Maru AMC Aikoku Maru AMC Awata Maru AMC Akagi Maru AMC Kinryu Maru E Shisaka E Hodaka E Amami Allied Ships SS Thornback, hits 60, and is sunk and also our escorts start to be more effective at attacking enemy subs... this one was important as the E class vessels cover a major troop convoy... SS Thornback is a confirmed kill... SS Thornback launches 2 torpedoes at E Shiga E Shisaka fails to find sub, continues to search... E Hodaka attacking submerged sub .... E Amami fails to find sub and abandons search E Shiga attacking submerged sub .... E Shisaka attacking submerged sub .... SS Thornback forced to surface! E Shisaka firing on surfaced sub .... E Hodaka firing on surfaced sub .... E Amami firing on surfaced sub .... E Shiga firing on surfaced sub .... E Shisaka firing on surfaced sub .... E Hodaka firing on surfaced sub .... E Amami firing on surfaced sub .... E Shiga firing on surfaced sub .... E Hodaka firing on surfaced sub .... E Amami firing on surfaced sub .... E Shiga firing on surfaced sub .... E Shisaka firing on surfaced sub .... Sub slips beneath the waves -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 103,128 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Allied aircraft B-25D1 Mitchell x 4 No Allied losses Japanese Ships PB Katsuragisan Maru, Shell hits 8, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires PB Kure Maru #5, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage the enemy retaliates with a strike on a small fast transport carrying supplies... have done these missions countless of times and the 1pt PBs got away without being attacked so far but this time both are sunk by the attack bombers... Aircraft Attacking: 4 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing and strafing from low level * Naval Attack: 3 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

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