AleW (J) vs Kaleun (A) Guadalcanal

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AlessandroW -> AleW (J) vs Kaleun (A) Guadalcanal (9/22/2019 4:44:27 PM)
Start small but one step forward everyday...my mantra in WitP. Guadalcanal scenario, stock, last beta patch. Edit: forgot to add, no HRs. Surely Kaleun was looking for something more challenging but unfortunately he found the opposite: a little more than newbie playing a small scenario, the life is hard [:D] In this scenario there is everything but production and map space, perfect to learn without being overwhelmed. Kaleun, please don't read any further. [image]local://upfiles/68344/DC33308EA7E843A18E2B6F765DC7BE50.jpg[/image]

BBfanboy -> RE: AleW (J) vs Kaleun (A) Guadalcanal (9/22/2019 6:18:32 PM)
The scenario may be small but the constraints are many and you have to walk a fine line between being too aggressive and too passive. There is not enough supply or reinforcements to make up for bad decisions.

AlessandroW -> RE: AleW (J) vs Kaleun (A) Guadalcanal (9/22/2019 6:55:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy The scenario may be small but the constraints are many and you have to walk a fine line between being too aggressive and too passive. There is not enough supply or reinforcements to make up for bad decisions. Yes and this is the reason why I like Guadalcanal scenario so much, lot of decisions in few hexes.

AlessandroW -> Overall assessment (9/22/2019 6:57:38 PM)
Starting position: 08/06/1942 Victory Points Japanese: 6213 Allied: 4647 This is going to change in 2-3 days therefore the Japanese has to stop the Allied offensive and then to be aggressive. Only four bases are worthy in VPs: Port Moresby: 8000 (J) 2000 (A), take this base is enough to win Lunga: 4800 (J) 1200 (A), big price as well Milne Bay: 1600 (J) 400 (A), side price Tulagi: 1200 (J) 300 (A), the least important Map PM: Jungle (2x defense value), surely will be mined and reinforced asap, with an AF 4 can be tough to suppress. Moreover is difficult to use naval bombardment without being spotted. Under B-17 umbrella. Milne Bay: Jungle (2x defense value), easy target for naval and air attacks, if not reinforced SNLF units can be enough for an invasion. Under B-17 umbrella. Lunga: Jungle (2x defense value), AF and Port at 2, difficult for both to keep it operating. Under B-17 umbrella. Tulagi: Jungle + Rough (3x defense value), paired with Lunga, if one base fall the other follow. Under B-17 umbrella. Truk and Rabaul are the main bases, especially the former. Kavieng airfield will be maximized. Buin fortified. Logistic Japanese is in shortage of fuel and supply, Allied not so much. Anyhow there are few vessels to move all stuff around for both, losing too many can stop any offensive plan. Truk: 1500 supply and 2000 fuel per day, that's all. Force Air Japanese air units are few but pretty good, the replacements rate is very low. Pilot reserve is impressive, 200+ elite pilots for fighters and bombers. Navy Capital ships will join the battle later leaving total supremacy to the enemy for a while (12 days). After that there are enough ships to carry out offensive plans. Trasport convoy safety will be paramount. Needless to say that CVs are the best asset for this war. Ground Big ground units will enter the map in different time, about one division equivalent every 25-60 days. Short on ENG units and no AA formations at all. Replacements rate very low. Horii group is my best land asset at the moment, around 200 AV, but is difficult to supply and pretty exposed to air attacks. Of course, for almost all of you these things are pretty obvious [:)] [image]local://upfiles/68344/54A7C1DB6FCC4E4CBE5FE04B574ADB07.jpg[/image]

AlessandroW -> Overall Strategy (9/22/2019 7:30:34 PM)
Japan My plan is........waiting [:D] At the moment I cannot react to his invasion fleet but I can try to disloge the Australian Bde holding the Horii group, I'm not sure if an enemy unit give free intel and they can be bombed with more efficacy. Why waiting? Because I don't need all four bases to win, and I will try to hit the more exposed ones and this depends where he will send his reinforcements. PM: it would be nice to have this airfield out of business but I don't want to start an attriction air war, anyway I have the edge in quality and I can try to take advantage of it. Milne Bay: can be a good diversion even if I won't go for PM, maybe can be taken without CVs. Allied After Tulagi and Lunga what can I do? Take the rest of the Solomon Islands is doable but LBA at Rabaul is a problem, a 4E bombing campaign can be a solution, then Rabaul itself. Anyhow is enough to hold the position for a victory. Lot of PPs are needed to free up the necessary troops. [image]local://upfiles/68344/158F56627ED64AE9B405F53B40654B16.jpg[/image]

AlessandroW -> Aug 06, 42 (9/23/2019 4:41:04 PM)
So, following my plan I used my assets to attack the 30th Australian Brigade, air bombardment and ground assault were launched. Not quite a good move, odds 1:2 on shock attack for 600+ causalties against 200+ for the Aussies, too early. Sorry Tanaka but I don't want to intercept the enemy amphibious fleet with only CA even if they are good. I thought to use them on naval bombardment but the risk to lose one for some disrupted/destroyed squads is not worth especially because I don't have any DD on escort yet. Trasport ships are heading to Truk. Reinforcements: CS Chitose arrives at Truk DD Yayoi arrives at Truk E Oite arrives at Truk E Asanagi arrives at Truk xAKL Noshiro Maru #2 arrives at Truk SS I-10 arrives at Truk SS I-11 arrives at Truk SS I-16 arrives at Truk SS I-21 arrives at Truk SS I-162 arrives at Truk SS I-168 arrives at Truk SS I-169 arrives at Truk SS I-171 arrives at Truk SS I-174 arrives at Truk SS RO-67 arrives at Truk SS RO-68 arrives at Truk 35th/124th Infantry Regiment arrives at Tassafaronga 35th/2nd(Kitao) Battalion arrives at Tassafaronga

AlessandroW -> Aug 07-08, 42 (9/23/2019 4:55:05 PM)
Zero in sweep mission over the Horii Group skies, around 10 enemy planes shot down so far, no losses for us. All my SS are sailing to Guadacanal hoping to catch the big fish. Lunga and Tulagi have been hit by CV air raids and the first American troops invaded the beaches. Reinforcements: CL Katori arrives at Truk

AlessandroW -> Aug 09, 42 (9/25/2019 7:57:34 PM)
Lunga has fallen, Tulagi still hold! This time my opponent has reinforced the PM air cover and we reported our first aircraft losses. SS TF layed 80 mines at Lunga and DD Selfridge and DD Mugford have been hit with heavy damages but the FOW reported sunk others DD [:D] Ship conversion: Given that I have very few ship I'm converting several ones in a more efficient troops transports: AP x4 AK-t x9 xAK x2 Moreover: AGP x1 AG x1 AKE x2 PB x4 AO x2 AS x1 (not sure if will be useful) [image]local://upfiles/68344/AE44261E436B4762A38E33A296F9C962.jpg[/image]

AlessandroW -> Aug 10-11, 42 (9/26/2019 7:13:09 PM)
Bloody days! Horii group tried a deliberate attack but went badly, 200 Japanese casualties for 100 Australians, the final AV for the defender was 650! (Jungle+Rough and forts 2 I guess). Tough position to crack and now the B-17 are starting to bombard my guys. Tulagi is lost but not before three enemy assaults, brave soldiers! SS Warfare Here amazing news!!!! Two SS has been damaged but we have two victims: AVD Ballard - Torpedo hits 1 CV Enterprise - Torpedo hits 3 in two attacks, we got a critical, magazine and fuel explosions! All my luck in a single target [:D] Surely she is sunk because there are a/c losses. A strategic victory indeed. Reinforcements: E Hakaze arrives at Truk APD-36 arrives at Truk AV Kamikawa Maru arrives at Truk Spent 2 PPs to rebuild the ENG units lost. [image]local://upfiles/68344/D77F882BC778406CB3F6DA5364BA2607.jpg[/image]

Bif1961 -> RE: Aug 10-11, 42 (9/27/2019 1:12:06 AM)
Reminds me of the Wasp which was torpedoed and sunk south of the canal. in that attack the BB NC was damaged and a DD sunk, 5 hits with 6 torps.

AlessandroW -> Aug 12-17, 42 (9/30/2019 5:40:41 PM)
Bif961, all these hits in a single attack? [X(] As usual Horii troops receive almost every day visitors with tons of gifts! I have started an air battle over PM, my goal is to close the enemy airfield to avoid LB attacks over my base (except B17 of course). Losses are fine but until Rabaul will have 20K+ supply I cannot replace the aircrafts lost, in few days I should be able to fix this issue. There is moviment around Lunga, I guess support troops are coming to build up the base. Reinforcements Misawa Ku K-1 arrives at Truk AR Akashi arrives at Truk SS I-175 arrives at Truk Yokosuka 5th SNLF arrives at Truk CV Shokaku arrives at Truk CV Zuikaku arrives at Truk CVL Ryujo arrives at Truk CVE Unyo arrives at Truk BB Hiei arrives at Truk BB Kirishima arrives at Truk BB Mutsu arrives at Truk AV Akitsushima arrives at Truk CA Tone arrives at Truk CA Chikuma arrives at Truk CA Takao arrives at Truk CA Atago arrives at Truk CA Maya arrives at Truk CA Myoko arrives at Truk CA Haguro arrives at Truk CA Suzuya arrives at Truk CA Kumano arrives at Truk CL Jintsu arrives at Truk CL Nagara arrives at Truk CL Yura arrives at Truk DD Akizuki arrives at Truk DD Akigumo arrives at Truk DD Kazegumo arrives at Truk DD Makigumo arrives at Truk DD Kagero arrives at Truk DD Oyashio arrives at Truk DD Hatsukaze arrives at Truk DD Maikaze arrives at Truk DD Isokaze arrives at Truk DD Tokitsukaze arrives at Truk DD Hamakaze arrives at Truk DD Nowaki arrives at Truk DD Arashi arrives at Truk DD Hagikaze arrives at Truk DD Tanikaze arrives at Truk DD Natsugumo arrives at Truk DD Minegumo arrives at Truk DD Asagumo arrives at Truk DD Murasame arrives at Truk DD Harusame arrives at Truk DD Samidare arrives at Truk DD Kawakaze arrives at Truk DD Umikaze arrives at Truk DD Suzukaze arrives at Truk DD Uranami arrives at Truk DD Shikinami arrives at Truk DD Ayanami arrives at Truk DD Asagiri arrives at Truk DD Yugiri arrives at Truk DD Amagiri arrives at Truk DD Akebono arrives at Truk DD Sazanami arrives at Truk DD Ushio arrives at Truk DD Mutsuki arrives at Truk DD Uzuki arrives at Truk E Matsukaze arrives at Truk APD-1 arrives at Truk APD-2 arrives at Truk APD-34 arrives at Truk APD-35 arrives at Truk AMc Wa 1 arrives at Truk AMc Wa 2 arrives at Truk AMc Fumi Maru #2 arrives at Truk xAKL Hagoromo Maru arrives at Truk xAKL Rokko Maru arrives at Truk AMc Seki Maru #3 arrives at Truk ACM Tama Maru arrives at Truk AMc Toshi Maru #1 arrives at Truk ACM Heijo Maru arrives at Truk xAKL Kantori Maru arrives at Truk PB Kenkon Maru arrives at Truk xAKL Koei Maru arrives at Truk PB Shonon Maru #15 arrives at Truk PC Ch 22 arrives at Rabaul PC Ch 24 arrives at Truk AO Iro arrives at Truk AO Naruto arrives at Truk AO Tsurumi arrives at Truk SS I-1 arrives at Truk SS I-2 arrives at Truk SS I-4 arrives at Truk SS I-7 arrives at Truk SS I-9 arrives at Truk SS I-15 arrives at Truk SS I-17 arrives at Truk xAK Kano Maru arrives at Truk xAK Keiyo Maru arrives at Truk xAK Yodogawa Maru arrives at Truk AMC Nosiro Maru arrives at Truk xAK Nissyu Maru arrives at Truk xAK Kamikaze Maru arrives at Truk xAK Yamahagi Maru arrives at Truk xAK Kasuga Maru #2 arrives at Truk xAK Sansei Maru arrives at Truk xAK Nittai Maru arrives at Truk Finally I can be more aggressive on my operations. [image]local://upfiles/68344/EAF397F3B72C489CB55AAD494DB1B2FC.jpg[/image]

Bif1961 -> RE: Aug 12-17, 42 (10/2/2019 12:59:53 AM)
September 15, 1942 (Tuesday): Near Guadalcanal the Japanese submarine I-19 fired one of the most effective torpedo salvos of the war, sinking the American aircraft carrier USS Wasp and destroyer O'Brien as well as damaging the battleship North Carolina. The destroyer Lansdowne was dispatched to rescue 447 crew of the Hornet and then scuttled the carrier. I-19 launched 6 torpedoes at USS Wasp achieving 5 hits, 3 against the Wasp, 1 against the O'Brien and 1 damaging the BB USS North Carolina.

AlessandroW -> RE: Aug 12-17, 42 (10/2/2019 1:55:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bif1961 September 15, 1942 (Tuesday): Near Guadalcanal the Japanese submarine I-19 fired one of the most effective torpedo salvos of the war, sinking the American aircraft carrier USS Wasp and destroyer O'Brien as well as damaging the battleship North Carolina. The destroyer Lansdowne was dispatched to rescue 447 crew of the Hornet and then scuttled the carrier. I-19 launched 6 torpedoes at USS Wasp achieving 5 hits, 3 against the Wasp, 1 against the O'Brien and 1 damaging the BB USS North Carolina. I misunderstood, I thought it was a in game event [:'(]

Bif1961 -> RE: Aug 12-17, 42 (10/2/2019 9:39:56 PM)
Fact is often stranger than fiction.

AlessandroW -> Aug 18-25, 42 (10/3/2019 6:35:40 PM)
Buna is the new B17 target, no real damages so far. PM has been heavily reinforced with fighters, I have to wait to replace the Zero losses before to attack again. Lunga Here we made the main offensive operations, the base has been bombarded and few transport TF attacked, two important AP have been sunk with around 300 casualties. Also some SC sunk that are somehow important because the enemy ASW TF are doing a good job, I have 4-5 SS damaged so far. My losses have been around 12-15 Val/Kate shot down. SS Warfare CLAA Atlanta and AP Wharton torpedoed and later sunk by aircrafts, CA Portland sunk by SS I-16. 1xAKL sunk by enemy sub. Mistakes I forgot that Kaleun can mine the bases as well, CA Maya with 20 flood damages and all mayor that cannot be repaired (she will run bombardment mission though), DD Akebono with several damages and DD Uranami out of business even if she still is afloat. I lost 2 APD and 1 xAKL by air naval attacks, wrong paths or carelessness. Reinforcements 17th Army arrives at Truk E Akikaze arrives at Truk SS I-19 arrives at Truk 3rd Ku T-1 arrives at Truk DD Hayashio arrives at Truk AO Sata arrives at Truk Kisarazu Ku K-1 arrives at Truk DD Shiratsuyu arrives at Truk Here the Allied naval losses: [image]local://upfiles/68344/B15C4977AF6F472FA461B0AC3C8E3DD8.jpg[/image]

BBfanboy -> RE: Aug 18-25, 42 (10/4/2019 6:05:42 PM)
It is a mistake to continue to use Maya. She will be slowed by the flood damage and will be unable to bombard and get out of range of allied aircraft before daylight. In fact Maya will cause all the ships in the bombardment TF to be in range of Allied aircraft. She is also an easy target for enemy subs. Your risk losing a lot of Victory Points (65?) for not much to gain.

AlessandroW -> RE: Aug 18-25, 42 (10/4/2019 7:31:08 PM)
Thanks for the advice! Quick question, if I send her to Osaka am I giving away VPs? Because she will never come back in time. I have a SS with mayor damages as well, can I use her on laying mines?

BBfanboy -> RE: Aug 18-25, 42 (10/5/2019 3:36:17 AM)
You only lose VPs if the ship is sunk (or sometimes if it is a major unit like a CV, if it is heavily damaged. If the scenario runs longer than the estimated repair time + travel time at Osaka I think the ship returns. The sub could be used for minelaying but the damage will make her easier to detect and attack. If you think it is worth the VP she is worth, go ahead with your idea.

tarkalak -> RE: Aug 18-25, 42 (10/8/2019 3:05:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy You only lose VPs if the ship is sunk (or sometimes if it is a major unit like a CV, if it is heavily damaged. If the scenario runs longer than the estimated repair time + travel time at Osaka I think the ship returns. The sub could be used for minelaying but the damage will make her easier to detect and attack. If you think it is worth the VP she is worth, go ahead with your idea. As far as I remember the scenario text explicitly says if you get VPs for damaged ships. I am not sure if this is active for Guadalcanal.

AlessandroW -> Aug 26-Sep 02, 42 (10/10/2019 3:53:40 PM)
BBfanboy, given that I don't have mines in the pool my choice has been easy [:D] 2nd division is ready at Truk, prepping for Lunga, AP and AK-t almost all ready. Buna Every day B-17 bombard this base, troops are fine but lot of supply lost. PM My fighters are doing a good job against the P-39D Airacobra and Kittyhawk IA, losses ratio in A2A is 3:1 for the Japanese. SS Warfare Kaleun is doing a great job hitting my subs, 5-6 of them are out of business for mayor damages (not possible to repair them in this scenario) but none is sunk at least. Surely I'm too predictable. Anyhow my SS are still able to hit the enemy ships: DD Gregory and AKA Bellatrix sunk. Reinforcements R-Area Air Force arrives at Shortlands R-Area fwd det. arrives at Rekata Bay BB Yamato arrives at Truk CL Sendai arrives at Truk 35th/Kuma Battalion arrives at Truk DD Yudachi arrives at Truk DD Hatsuyuki arrives at Truk DD Murakumo arrives at Truk SS RO-61 arrives at Truk SS RO-62 arrives at Truk SS RO-63 arrives at Truk SS RO-64 arrives at Truk 6th Ku S-1 - Det arrives at Truk 18th Army arrives at Truk 2nd/4th Inf Regiment arrives at Truk 2nd/16th Inf Regiment arrives at Truk 2nd/29th Inf Regiment arrives at Truk 2nd/2nd Arty Regiment arrives at Truk 2nd/2nd Engineer Regiment arrives at Truk DD Fubuki arrives at Truk DD Shirayuki arrives at Truk E Tachikaze arrives at Truk Chitose Ku K-1 -Det arrives at Truk Toko Ku T-1 arrives at Truk SS I-157 arrives at Truk Intelligence report [image]local://upfiles/68344/F7CCA99BA2AD43038734D21CBC58FFD7.jpg[/image]

AlessandroW -> Sep 03-12, 42 (10/14/2019 7:42:56 PM)
Lot of actions in these days and first Allied base to change owner. I noticed several TFs in and out Lunga but nothing at Milne Bay, therefore I wanted to try a coup de main because I thought it was not reinforced. To achieve more surprise and don't risk my precious transports I used DD/CA in fast transport, in the first way only two SNLF units reached the target but I quickly discovered that this kind of amphibious mission put lot of squads in disable status. Anyhow my attack has been launched just in time because I intercepted an enemy transport TF full of troops heading to Milne Bay, around 3500 casualties (110+ squads, 60+ non combat and 32 guns, maybe a regiment) with 5 xAP, 3 AM and CL Leander sunk. BB Yamato and BB Hiei plus several CA/CL/DD made a night bombardment just before the enemy land force launched a ground attack that end very badly: 860 enemy casulaties against 60 Japanese. Both tried to reinforce the land forces, I have been able to unload another 2 SNLF units in Fast Trasport again (no time for AP) whereas my Betty intercepted two enemy convoys, 8 xAP, 4x AM and DD Arunta sunk for a whopping 10300 casulaties. After three attacks the base fallen in Japanese hands, 7th Australian Brigade and 101st RAAF Base Force retreated in an adjacent hex. During these days several battles have been fought in the skies, both side lost 30-40 aircrafts. Buna/Tassafaronga B-17 are visiting these base almost every day and I'm in critical supply situation, I need to feed these guys shortly. SS Warfare A PC has been torpedoed (maybe ASW TF with only one ship are not good). SS I-2 sunk for a major flooding aboard, first SS lost by Allied ASW. Other SS damaged, I left that sea zone between Guadalcanal and Espiritu Santo. Anyhow we got the following ships: DD Laffey DD Warramunga DD Frazier Reinforcements Maizuru 4th SNLF arrives at Truk CS Nisshin arrives at Truk DD Ariake arrives at Truk DD Akatsuki arrives at Truk Chitose-1 Chutai arrives at Shortlands Chitose-2 Daitai arrives at Shortlands Kamikawa-1 Chutai arrives at Shortlands Kamikawa-2 Daitai arrives at Shortlands Sanyo-1 Chutai arrives at Shortlands Sanyo-2 Chutai arrives at Shortlands Sanuki-1 Chutai arrives at Shortlands BB Kongo arrives at Truk BB Haruna arrives at Truk AV Sanuki Maru arrives at Truk DD Yugure arrives at Truk DD Mochizuki arrives at Truk 129th JNAF AF Unit arrives at Truk (rebuilt) 14th Naval Construction Battalion arrives at Truk (rebuilt) Overall situation: [image]local://upfiles/68344/8FF2353E6E6D4A9B8AC8CF5E2730D65B.jpg[/image]

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