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Andy Mac -> Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 2:17:27 AM)
OK been a while since I messed about Attached to this thread are revised and updated Scen 1 and 2. Main changes. NOW REMOVED FROM THIS SCENARIO _ SCEN IN POST 3 BELOW IS SCEN 1 WITH NEW BASES - Bases - Lots of new bases in NZ/Aus/China/Burma/Malaya some are to make the AI perform better some are purely because it offended me to have railway lines on the map that couldn't be used bases are in the 1600 - 1720 range if you want to look at them - some of the names may be slightly out especially in China. Resources etc - A little more on map LI for both sides to better reflect food production reduced off map supply and 'magic supply to compensate in most cases. (China/Burma/SEA/Russia mostly) A few minor aircraft tweaks - eg Beaufighters now attack bombers because the code handles them better as attack bombers than FB's same with Mosquitoes - if you don't like change back More allied aircraft set to CW nationality especially FAA types as FAA sqns are a mix of nationalities and this allows them all to use the aircraft. Small tweaks to OOB in China (splitting units) to cope with new bases Post 6/45 increases in US and CW device replacements to reflect re prioritisation of replacement to the hot war - basically just in case the game is still going until mid 46 An updated AI file please delete all existing aei01-00x.dat and aei01-00x.dat files if you want to keep them copy to a subfiolder - at present the new AI file has NO variants and therefore will not overwrite the existing files so you need to delete them or you wont be using the latest files. Lots of tweaks and corrections that have been sent in as well over the last couple of years - I am sure I have missed a few so feel free to let me know of any errors in the thread below. Edit v2 Added Cav Designation to 1st Chinese Cav Corps Adjusted MG device in 7811 Chinese corps Changed Device in Mobile Eenhid Amended Wiraway Bomb Load Removed Port from Reid River Moved starting Location 1st motor Bde (aus) to Brisbane Updated Dutch and Soviet Subs to match class files Wright now arrives day 3 at PH Moved Alchiba/Aries and Mauna Loa to later arrival dates v3 a few HQ changes in 45 per Kulls spot on Air groups and a few Chinese HQ changes Enjoy v4 fixed Boomerang bomb load and tried again with Kulls updates !!! v5 Corrected a couple of issues with Chinese supply caps on bases, amended 24th Chinese Base Force, Corrected 2 ships from list above moved from PH to Anchorage, reverted Beaufighters and Mosquitos back to FB's undoing change above as on balance not an air guy so trusting original team more than my testing, added 5 new Gulf bases in Australia, removed Fairey Battle except as Invasion reinforcements v6 Hurricane IId upgrades to Hurricane IV and removed forts at level 6 from one of the Arakan Yoma bases v 7 - 9 I have REMOVED all the new stuff I added to scenario 1 stripping it back to being just scenario 1 with NO additional bases - I DO NOT RECOMMEND PLAYING THIS V THE AI as the fixes I put in and the new bases vastly improved the AI's ability to do well but on balance I decided I didnt have the right to make unilateral changes to scen 1 and still call it scen 1 so the version now attached is a pure scen 1 with bug fixes and new AI ONLY. v10 Now with reworked invasion reinforcements basically rather than external units that would have an impact on other theatres (other than 9th Aus and 2nd NZ Div) the bulk of the reinforcements are now activated home guard formations the invasion device convoy has been increased to compensate v12 minor bug fixes Andy

Andy Mac -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 2:18:15 AM)
OK I have now removed all the new bases from this scenario - so it is Scen 2 with the new AI and all relevant bug fixes but EXCLUDES the new Bases - so the same Scenario WITH the new bases see post 4 below with Scen 8 in it And scen 2 updated 29th Sept Edit v2 Added Cav Designation to 1st Chinese Cav Corps Adjusted MG device in 7811 Chinese corps Changed Device in Mobile Eenhid Amended Wiraway Bomb Load Removed Port from Reid River Moved starting Location 1st motor Bde (aus) to Brisbane Updated Dutch and Soviet Subs to match class files Wright now arrives day 3 at PH Moved Alchiba/Aries and Mauna Loa to later arrival dates v3 moved the Jap Aircraft upgrades back to where they should have been v4 updated for Kulls HQ changes and some Chian HQ's v5 fixed boomerang bomb load and tried again with kulls changes v6 Corrected a couple of issues with Chinese supply caps on bases, amended 24th Chinese Base Force, Corrected 2 ships from list above moved from PH to Anchorage, reverted Beaufighters and Mosquitos back to FB's undoing change above as on balance not an air guy so trusting original team more than my testing, removed Fairey Battle except as Invasion reinforcements also removed Oil and refinery from Truk as was an error with version control v6 Amended some allied factories v7 Added art link for Battle Added Kurama to 5/46 Moved additional escort dates (minor change to 4 ships) Changed Burma Milita Regt to Div (no increase to strength simply to allow it to be divided for local garrisons) Updated AI for minor tweaks v8 Updated invasion reinforcements for NZ and Aus v9 Broke link between A6M8 and A7m2 no idea how that happened NOTE FOR INFO AS I HAVE FORGOTTEN IT MANY TIMES THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SCEN 1/7 & 2/8 IE THE BASE DIFFERENCES BELOW. 1. Truk starts Post size 7 not 6 as in Scen 1 2. From memory Indo China has a few more resources - cannot remember why it was 10 years ago !! 3. Batavia gets a small refinery size 20 I think 4. Cannot fully remember there are extra air/Engine factories at Harbin 7 or 8 size 5 ish factories 5. LAND Japan gets fictional 21st Army - has to build it so its not free it it arrives over 1st year of war 3 Inf Divs 1 Tank Div 1 Tank Bde 1 Para Regt 1 Amphib Regt 11 x Militia/Local Levy Regts to allow for garrison requirements to be met - these are useless in combat but free up other units and are perm restricted so limited use Naval Shinano as a Taiho Extra Unryu in 5/46 no organic air group I assume you will have plenty of naval air to put on her by then A few more xAKs/xAP's c 20 I think 3 tankers 2 Oilers about 30 - 35 extra escorts a mix of E's/DMS's and Matsu class DD's over course of war 3 x Flotillas of light ships 1 x Agano and 6 good DD's each year over 1st 3 years About 80 suicide PT Boats in 1945 if you get that far Industry +450k HI at start +50k Amr +50k vehicles + Larger Repair Yards at Tokyo + Larger Refinery + Larger Oil + Larger Arm Factory Total of 109 Air Factories on map v 97 in Scen 1 mostly small production factories I thin R&D is the same + 100k Fuel and Supply @ Samah and Truk and 50k of each at Kwajalein +45 Oil at Tokyo AIR + 50 A6M2/Kate in pool +80 Oscar 1a in pool Oh and the 1945 Japanese CVE's start with organic airgroups - Claudes in 45 from memory....(that was more of a you have got to be f**** kidding me moment between me as AI lead and the Naval and Air teams !!!) - They are correct historically those small CVE's did NOT have organic air groups.....BUT the AI will not put air groups on carriers if they dont arrive with them but WILL use the CVE's as though they do have air groups.....sigh - have I ever mentioned DONT play scen 1 v the Ai.....this is why - having a scenario thats good v Ai and good v PBEM is f**** impossible) I have a feeling there was an additonal Oscar Sqn as well but cannot find it

Andy Mac -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 2:18:55 AM)
I am now posting a version of Scen 1 in this post that HAS the new bases and the tweaks it is in slot 7 as defacto quiet china is an irrelevance for PBEM and v the AI you can pretty much ignore it anyway on either side. Main changes. Bases - Lots of new bases in NZ/Aus/China/Burma/Malaya some are to make the AI perform better some are purely because it offended me to have railway lines on the map that couldn't be used bases are in the 1600 - 1720 range if you want to look at them - some of the names may be slightly out especially in China. Resources etc - A little more on map LI for both sides to better reflect food production reduced off map supply and 'magic supply to compensate in most cases. (China/Burma/SEA/Russia mostly) A few minor aircraft tweaks - eg Beaufighters now attack bombers because the code handles them better as attack bombers than FB's same with Mosquitoes - if you don't like change back More allied aircraft set to CW nationality especially FAA types as FAA sqns are a mix of nationalities and this allows them all to use the aircraft. Small tweaks to OOB in China (splitting units) to cope with new bases Post 6/45 increases in US and CW device replacements to reflect re prioritisation of replacement to the hot war - basically just in case the game is still going until mid 46 An updated AI file please delete all existing aei01-00x.dat and aei01-00x.dat files if you want to keep them copy to a subfiolder - at present the new AI file has NO variants and therefore will not overwrite the existing files so you need to delete them or you wont be using the latest files. Lots of tweaks and corrections that have been sent in as well over the last couple of years - I am sure I have missed a few so feel free to let me know of any errors in the thread below. Edit v2 Added Cav Designation to 1st Chinese Cav Corps Adjusted MG device in 7811 Chinese corps Changed Device in Mobile Eenhid Amended Wiraway Bomb Load Removed Port from Reid River Moved starting Location 1st motor Bde (aus) to Brisbane Updated Dutch and Soviet Subs to match class files Wright now arrives day 3 at PH Moved Alchiba/Aries and Mauna Loa to later arrival dates v3 a few HQ changes in 45 per Kulls spot on Air groups and a few Chinese HQ changes Enjoy v4 fixed Boomerang bomb load and tried again with Kulls updates !!! v5 Corrected a couple of issues with Chinese supply caps on bases, amended 24th Chinese Base Force, Corrected 2 ships from list above moved from PH to Anchorage, reverted Beaufighters and Mosquitos back to FB's undoing change above as on balance not an air guy so trusting original team more than my testing, added 5 new Gulf bases in Australia, removed Fairey Battle except as Invasion reinforcements v6 Hurricane IId upgrades to Hurricane IV and removed forts at level 6 from one of the Arakan Yoma bases v7 - 9 updated AI file, fixed art on battle, a couple of minor tweaks e.g. reinforcement convoy if india attacked reduced a few of the devices v2 (of new scen number) Now with reworked invasion reinforcements basically rather than external units that would have an impact on other theatres (other than 9th Aus and 2nd NZ Div) the bulk of the reinforcements are now activated home guard formations the invasion device convoy has been increased to compensate

Andy Mac -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 2:21:06 AM)
Moving my Scen 2 to a new slot to keep original Scen 2 as was with no new bases - so below Scen 8 has all the new bases and other fixe4s as well and new AI. Edit v2 Added Cav Designation to 1st Chinese Cav Corps Adjusted MG device in 7811 Chinese corps Changed Device in Mobile Eenhid Amended Wiraway Bomb Load Removed Port from Reid River Moved starting Location 1st motor Bde (aus) to Brisbane Updated Dutch and Soviet Subs to match class files Wright now arrives day 3 at PH Moved Alchiba/Aries and Mauna Loa to later arrival dates v3 moved the Jap Aircraft upgrades back to where they should have been v4 updated for Kulls HQ changes and some Chian HQ's v5 fixed boomerang bomb load and tried again with kulls changes v6 Corrected a couple of issues with Chinese supply caps on bases, amended 24th Chinese Base Force, Corrected 2 ships from list above moved from PH to Anchorage, reverted Beaufighters and Mosquitos back to FB's undoing change above as on balance not an air guy so trusting original team more than my testing, added 5 new Gulf bases in Australia, removed Fairey Battle except as Invasion reinforcements also removed Oil and refinery from Truk as was an error with version control v6 Amended some allied factories v7 Added art link for Battle Added Kurama to 5/46 Moved additional escort dates (minor change to 4 ships) Changed Burma Milita Regt to Div (no increase to strength simply to allow it to be divided for local garrisons) Updated AI for minor tweaks v8 Now with reworked invasion reinforcements basically rather than external units that would have an impact on other theatres (other than 9th Aus and 2nd NZ Div) the bulk of the reinforcements are now activated home guard formations the invasion device convoy has been increased to compensate v9 corrected a device error and removed an icorrect link between Shinden and A6M8

Kull -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 4:30:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Andy Mac Enjoy Andy Oh yeahhhhhh! Andy Mac is BACKKKK!

AlessandroW -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 6:39:59 AM)
Great! I'm just studying the scenario 1 for another game after my Guadalcanal PBEM, your work is much appreciated!!! [&o] Btw, can be a problem for the Tracker tool to handle these new bases?

traskott -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 8:43:38 AM)
Andy is baaaack. [&o][&o]

Andy Mac -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 12:28:24 PM)
;) ps anyone with better geography can check base names I need bases in those locations others may have better geography than me

jwilkerson -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 1:15:18 PM)
Go Andy GO !!! [8D]

AlessandroW -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 1:58:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AlessandroW Btw, can be a problem for the Tracker tool to handle these new bases? I found the answer thanks to the following thread, every new base must be added in the regional areas.

Dili -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 3:11:40 PM)
Excellent, thanks.

AlessandroW -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 5:05:13 PM)
Andy, do you have a name list of the new bases? In this way I can modify the tracker region file more quickly. Thanks!

Andy Mac -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 5:18:56 PM)
1603 MALAYA 1604 Sungei Pantani 1605 Kuala Kangsar 1606 Kuala Krai 1607 Jerantut 1608 Port Dickson 1609 Kluang 1610 Ipoh 1611 Batang Padang 1612 1613 1614 1615 1616 1617 1618 BURMA 1619 Donbaik 1620 Sittang Bridge 1621 Paingkyon 1622 Karen Hills 1623 Kachin Hills 1624 Gokteik Viaduct 1625 Yamethin 1626 Myingyan 1627 Pauk 1628 Kawludo 1629 Phyu 1630 Daik - u 1631 Chin Hills 1632 Mount Victoria 1633 Arakan Yoma (N) 1634 Arakan Yoma (C) 1635 Arakan Yoma (S) 1636 Thanbyuzayat 1637 Ye 1638 Tanbaya 1639 Three Pagoda's Pass 1640 Nieke 1641 Bampong 1642 Tenchung 1643 Fort Hertz 1644 Lushai Hills 1645 Gangaw 1646 Tiddim 1647 Naga Hills 1648 Kabaw Valley 1649 Pangsau Pass 1650 Hukawng Valley 1651 1652 1653 AUSTRALIA 1654 Wilcannia 1655 Ivanhoe 1656 Jervis Bay 1657 Wodonga 1658 Yaraka 1659 Quilpie 1660 Eucla 1661 Norseman 1662 Rawlinna 1663 Leonora 1664 Wiluna 1665 Sandstone 1666 Fitzroy 1667 Carnegie 1668 Kokoda Trail 1669 Ballarat 1670 Ararat 1671 Clare 1672 Warnambool 1673 Reid River 1674 Port Macquarie 1675 Mackay 1676 Katoomba 1677 Goulburn 1678 Casino 1679 Croydon 1680 Forasyth 1681 Puckapunyal 1682 Greta 1683 1684 NZ 1685 Oamaru 1686 Westport 1687 Wanganui 1688 Tauranga 1689 Waiouru 1690 Desmond 1691 Plaine Des Gaiacs 1692 New Plymouth 1693 1694 CHINA 1695 Yaowang Mtn 1696 Yuntsi 1697 Yuanku 1698 Tsingsing 1699 Yutze 1700 Pingyao 1701 Linfan 1702 Anyi 1703 Ban'an 1704 Zunyi 1705 Nanchuan 1706 Wulong

AlessandroW -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 5:27:23 PM)
Andy, I found a couple of bases not in the right place. Btw: the empty space after the number what does it mean? 1692 New Plymouth 1693 1694 CHINA Edit: disregard my stupid question...an empty space in the database...[8\|] Thanks again! [image]local://upfiles/68344/ABF5C797F6D54C4EB36C288C77CDDBF5.jpg[/image]

BillBrown -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 5:33:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AlessandroW Andy, I found a couple of bases not in the right place. Btw: the empty space after the number what does it mean? 1692 New Plymouth 1693 1694 CHINA Thanks again! [image]local://upfiles/68344/ABF5C797F6D54C4EB36C288C77CDDBF5.jpg[/image] You are using an extended map artwork with a standard map scenario. Not Andys fault nor is he able to fix it.

Andy Mac -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 5:35:57 PM)
Yes standard map I got myself tied up in knots using alternative maps

Andy Mac -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 5:36:13 PM)
Unless I still have a bug

Andy Mac -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 5:37:15 PM)
Can someone with a standard map install please check its ok and let me know trying to find a soviet activation bug

AlessandroW -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 5:39:34 PM)
Of corse not, I'm using the wrong mod!!! Sorry!

Andy Mac -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 5:48:25 PM)
Hold fire starting a game please on the above I have a bug somehow activating Soviets in early 42 I will find it but need to run a game out to mid Feb 42 to find it

AlessandroW -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 9:36:24 PM)
Andy, I think these bases should be located in Thailand (maybe already are, just in your list are in Burma): 1639 Three Pagoda's Pass 1640 Nieke 1641 Bampong If someone uses Tracker and wants an updated region file, attached you can find the original "Kull_Regions_v131a" file with the new bases named "Kull_Regions_v140_Scenario1_Update" located in the correct regions. Kull, let me know if for you is fine otherwise I will use another one [:)]

Andy Mac -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 9:58:19 PM)
They are in Thailand just how I grouped them

Andy Mac -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/25/2019 10:57:57 PM)
don't start an AI game with either of the above something is triggering Soviet Activation and haven't found it yet got tests running to try and pinpoint the cause

Kull -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/26/2019 12:49:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AlessandroW Andy, I think these bases should be located in Thailand (maybe already are, just in your list are in Burma): 1639 Three Pagoda's Pass 1640 Nieke 1641 Bampong If someone uses Tracker and wants an updated region file, attached you can find the original "Kull_Regions_v131a" file with the new bases named "Kull_Regions_v140_Scenario1_Update" located in the correct regions. Kull, let me know if for you is fine otherwise I will use another one [:)] That's fine - thanks for doing this! Also as Andy's response indicates, the assignment of bases to "Regions" isn't a "Hard Science". For example, some of the Tracker Region files group all Japanese Homeland bases into "Japan". Others group them by the large islands (Honshu, Kyushu, etc). In my file all the Japanese islands that share road/rail links go in one region while "Hokkaido" is separate, simply because that makes it easier to know which of the bases in "Japan" share fuel, oil, supply and resources via overland flow.

Nomad -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/26/2019 2:40:00 AM)
My region files were done at a time that Floyd was considering making two or three levels of nested regions available. So you could have the individual Japanese Islands as regions, then combine some of them into a second mega region and also the possibility of having a number of mega regions/regions combined into another mass region. So, I have been using Kull's region files as a start and then modifying it as necessary for different mods.

BBfanboy -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/26/2019 3:53:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Andy Mac don't start an AI game with either of the above something is triggering Soviet Activation and haven't found it yet got tests running to try and pinpoint the cause I wonder if someone re-grouping the new bases made a typo and put in the Soviet country code on one of them?

AlessandroW -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/26/2019 2:33:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nomad My region files were done at a time that Floyd was considering making two or three levels of nested regions available. So you could have the individual Japanese Islands as regions, then combine some of them into a second mega region and also the possibility of having a number of mega regions/regions combined into another mass region. So, I have been using Kull's region files as a start and then modifying it as necessary for different mods. Sorry, I'm rather new to this tool, how can I combine more regions together?

Alfred -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/26/2019 2:37:56 PM)
Look up the Tracker sticky on the main AE forum page. Alfred

AlessandroW -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/26/2019 3:24:36 PM)
You are right, sorry to hijack the thread!

Moltrey -> RE: Updated Scen 1 and 2 (9/27/2019 12:03:35 AM)
Andy: Thanks a lot for continuing to improve a great game. If I didn't already believe there are champions for WITP:AE, I would now. I did have a senior moment and unzipped the files in the main directory instead of the SCEN directory. [sm=innocent0009.gif] All fixed now and everything shows up as advertised. Thanks again!

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