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Erik Rutins -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 6:41:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Webbco
My question is: How often will you be showing us other aspects of the game and when will you start?


Nothing more until 2020, but I expect we'll do at least some kind of sneak peek each month until the big reveal with the product page and such. As we get closer to release, we'll provide more details as well.



Sparviero -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 7:02:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins


Thank you very much! [sm=00000436.gif]
Now I have to find a reason for my life untill the release date ( probably beer ).



Jorgen_CAB -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 7:12:58 PM)

I just wanted to say that everything shown so far looks really fantastic... all the changes from DW1 seems really good and well thought out from what I can tell. I really love DW1 but the lack of characteristics of different hulls could sometimes make ship design a bit not so fun as you for the most part just made every ship at max size. It is often restrictions that produce character and interesting ship designs.

I think it is good that some hull types are built for manoeuvrability while others are built for maximum power and combat ability for example. That makes those hull types useful in so many more ways. You are probably no able to build a battleship that spin around as fast as a fast Destroyer or Frigate.

Keep up the good work...



Uncle Lumpy -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 7:24:35 PM)

Too many questions to ask!! Too much to take in!! Looks great so far!! Didn't realize just how badly I was waiting for DW-2 until now!!



OJsDad -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 7:49:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
Yes, on the construction part of the tech tree, you research hulls as part of your research projects. These effectively allow you to build larger ships, but they also unlock particular hulls with somewhat different sizes and maximum component slot arrangements. For example, you can can research a basic Destroyer Hull at Tech Level 2, but at the next Tech Level in the Construction tree, you could research Heavy Destroyers, Fleet Destroyers and Fast Destroyers, each of which is a more advanced and larger destroyer hull, focused and balanced in a somewhat different way. The size matters the most if you are looking for a balanced design. The particular hull matters more if you are looking to focus your design in a particular direction, such as weapons, defenses, speed and maneuverability, sensors, etc.



Hmm, if I'm understanding you, then it's a little disappointing. One of the things I really liked about DW1 was that you could build ships to any size and didn't have to research ship hull size tech first.





Erik Rutins -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 8:01:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OJsDad
Hmm, if I'm understanding you, then it's a little disappointing. One of the things I really liked about DW1 was that you could build ships to any size and didn't have to research ship hull size tech first.


In practice, it's not as limiting as you may be thinking. Keep in mind that in Distant Worlds 1, you could not build ships to any size. You started out with size limitations (for example, Size 160 for ships initially) and you had to research to increase your maximum buildable size. The roles were mostly just ways to organize your designs and to set certain component minimums, the size was the real limitation.

In Distant Worlds 2, the ship hulls are effectively the research projects that unlock greater sizes as well as different component limits. Within each ship hull, there is still a lot of design flexibility and I haven't had any trouble duplicating my designs from DW1 so far. Roles still establish certain component minimums, but hulls also establish certain realistic maximums. However, the roles are now also much more meaningful in an absolute sense and not just as an organizational tool. This will become even more apparent when we get to the point of discussing fleets.

Regards,

- Erik




Imrryran -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 8:16:18 PM)

Thanks Erik for the screens and the answers! [&o]

What about the empire internal policies, factions, etc. Will it be more complex than in the first game?



Erik Rutins -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 8:31:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Imrryran
What about the empire internal policies, factions, etc. Will it be more complex than in the first game?


Personally I like the new Empire Policy interface much more, but I can't share it with you just yet. As with DW1, there are quite a few policy settings and the policies allow you a finer level of control over the automation of your empire and allow you to set bounds or influence the decision-making of your automated advisors.

One thing I will mention is that when it comes to your automation, the top level settings are no longer just manual/automated/advise. There is now a fourth setting, which effectively means you have two different options on the advise side. These are called Suggest and Suggest & Execute. The first means they will suggest, but if you ignore the suggestion (these suggestions decay over time) they will not implement it. In effect, they will only do it if you intervene to grant permission. The second means they will suggest, but if you don't intervene to either approve it or cancel it, they will go ahead and do it once enough time has passed for you to review it. I find these to be a useful addition that allows one more level between "I'll do it all myself" and "Just do it, I don't want to hear about it."

Regards,

- Erik



Cauldyth -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 8:37:58 PM)

I've spent the last 4 years imagining all the ways you could screw up my beloved Distant Worlds, but even this little bit of information shows you haven't. I still see all the micro-details that I love so much, while the new sense of scale is just fantastic. [:)]

And yes, this new ship hull system sounds much better. In DW1, the various categories of ships meant absolutely nothing (except for Carrier). You could build an escort that's bigger and more powerful than a cruiser. The game needed some sort of enforcement of roles, and it looks like that's exactly what it's getting.



rollhax -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 8:44:11 PM)

The docking bays are very reminiscent of homeworld and X3/X4. Will we be able to see ships flying in and out of them to dock?



Larsenex -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 8:45:09 PM)

Erik,

Thank you. Very nice stream! Will the game be 64bit? I believe you answered this but I just wanted to confirm.

Will we be able to zoom 'very far out' to see the entire galaxy and move around as before or limited based on host computer resources?

In some other games you can zoom way way out and conversely zoom way back in such as in these screen shots.



USSAmerica -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 8:48:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Larsenex

Erik,

Thank you. Very nice stream! Will the game be 64bit? I believe you answered this but I just wanted to confirm.

Will we be able to zoom 'very far out' to see the entire galaxy and move around as before or limited based on host computer resources?

In some other games you can zoom way way out and conversely zoom way back in such as in these screen shots.


64 bit engine is confirmed for DW2, Larsenex. [8D]



Sparviero -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 8:55:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
However, the roles are now also much more meaningful in an absolute sense and not just as an organizational tool. This will become even more apparent when we get to the point of discussing fleets.

Regards,

- Erik




Hype again :D


Also a really interesting topic the one about internal policy. It's the only aspect that lacks a bit of immersion in DW1 in my opinion. I'd like to see more life into my citizens.
Private Sector of the economy really helps a lot in DW1 to forget about this, but I think it will be amazing to have both feature...I really living universe ( private sector > philosophical/religous currents )



DasTactic -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 8:57:15 PM)

Thanks Eric for sharing this information. Distant Worlds 2 is my most anticipated game for 2020, Can't wait. :)



OJsDad -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 9:05:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins


quote:

ORIGINAL: OJsDad
Hmm, if I'm understanding you, then it's a little disappointing. One of the things I really liked about DW1 was that you could build ships to any size and didn't have to research ship hull size tech first.


In practice, it's not as limiting as you may be thinking. Keep in mind that in Distant Worlds 1, you could not build ships to any size. You started out with size limitations (for example, Size 160 for ships initially) and you had to research to increase your maximum buildable size. The roles were mostly just ways to organize your designs and to set certain component minimums, the size was the real limitation.

In Distant Worlds 2, the ship hulls are effectively the research projects that unlock greater sizes as well as different component limits. Within each ship hull, there is still a lot of design flexibility and I haven't had any trouble duplicating my designs from DW1 so far. Roles still establish certain component minimums, but hulls also establish certain realistic maximums. However, the roles are now also much more meaningful in an absolute sense and not just as an organizational tool. This will become even more apparent when we get to the point of discussing fleets.

Regards,

- Erik




Apologies, it has been awhile since I fired up DW1 and I didn't remember it correctly.



Erik Rutins -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 9:07:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rollhax
The docking bays are very reminiscent of homeworld and X3/X4. Will we be able to see ships flying in and out of them to dock?


Yes, indeed. Though the largest ships will generally stop somewhere near the spaceport and use shuttles, but small to medium ships can fit inside.



Erik Rutins -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 9:08:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Larsenex
Thank you. Very nice stream! Will the game be 64bit? I believe you answered this but I just wanted to confirm.

Will we be able to zoom 'very far out' to see the entire galaxy and move around as before or limited based on host computer resources?

In some other games you can zoom way way out and conversely zoom way back in such as in these screen shots.


Yes, 64-bit and yes, you can zoom all the way out. This is not limited by system and there's seamless zoom out, zoom in from the individual ship/fighter level all they way to the full galaxy view.



Erik Rutins -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 9:09:37 PM)

Hey Das,

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ORIGINAL: Das123
Thanks Eric for sharing this information. Distant Worlds 2 is my most anticipated game for 2020, Can't wait. :)


Great to hear. :-)




Erik Rutins -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 9:10:08 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cauldyth
I've spent the last 4 years imagining all the ways you could screw up my beloved Distant Worlds, but even this little bit of information shows you haven't. I still see all the micro-details that I love so much, while the new sense of scale is just fantastic. [:)]

And yes, this new ship hull system sounds much better. In DW1, the various categories of ships meant absolutely nothing (except for Carrier). You could build an escort that's bigger and more powerful than a cruiser. The game needed some sort of enforcement of roles, and it looks like that's exactly what it's getting.


Thank you, I'm glad to hear that you are looking forward to it. [8D]



Erik Rutins -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 9:11:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OJsDad
Apologies, it has been awhile since I fired up DW1 and I didn't remember it correctly.


No problem, I hope my reply reassured you... and play more DW1! [;)]



scotten_usa -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 9:17:25 PM)

Shut up and take my money already!



BlueTemplar -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 10:17:25 PM)

Looks great ! [sm=happy0065.gif]

I'm assuming that ships will be a single pointlike entity for targeting and damage purposes ?



Erik Rutins -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 11:56:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BlueTemplar
I'm assuming that ships will be a single pointlike entity for targeting and damage purposes ?


That is correct, though certain weapons will cause damage that favors one component type over another. For example, some weapons partially or fully bypass shields or armor, others target components directly (ion weapons of various types).

Regards,

- Erik




sinbuster -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/19/2019 11:59:37 PM)

Thanks Erik. I'm glad you decided not to reinvent the wheel when it came to the sequel. The scale is obviously a great improvement but there are so many familiar elements remaining. My original question about bigger galaxies was already answered so here are a couple more if I may:

Has save game bloat been resolved?

Has the spy system been changed at all? It was micro-heavy even for someone like me that plays with all the automation off.



Erik Rutins -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/20/2019 12:08:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sinbuster
Has save game bloat been resolved?


Saves and loads are extremely quick in my experience with this new engine. Until we get through our final testing and optimization, it's hard to say for sure but I expect a major improvement in this area compared to DW1.

quote:

Has the spy system been changed at all? It was micro-heavy even for someone like me that plays with all the automation off.


Too early to talk about espionage or characters, sorry. [:)]



elliotg -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/20/2019 12:10:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Larsenex

Erik,

Thank you. Very nice stream! Will the game be 64bit? I believe you answered this but I just wanted to confirm.

Will we be able to zoom 'very far out' to see the entire galaxy and move around as before or limited based on host computer resources?

In some other games you can zoom way way out and conversely zoom way back in such as in these screen shots.


Hi all

Long time, no speak ;) Glad you like what you've seen so far of DW2.

Thought I'd just add some more points about 64-bit: while the default build will be 64-bit, we'll probably also include a 32-bit version. Memory usage is much-improved over DW1, so 32-bit can actually handle most situations ok. It's just the really big galaxies where 64-bit works better. But if you only have 32-bit Windows, you'll still be able to play DW2.



elliotg -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/20/2019 12:15:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sinbuster

Thanks Erik. I'm glad you decided not to reinvent the wheel when it came to the sequel. The scale is obviously a great improvement but there are so many familiar elements remaining. My original question about bigger galaxies was already answered so here are a couple more if I may:

Has save game bloat been resolved?

Has the spy system been changed at all? It was micro-heavy even for someone like me that plays with all the automation off.

Savegames are much smaller and much, much faster. Saving a game often takes less than a second, depending on galaxy size, etc.

One thing I'll say about characters is that we now have per-character automation, i.e. you can automate individual characters (location, missions) or not. Generally-speaking there is more fine-grained control over units with per-unit automation settings (in addition to advisors, etc).



WinzLer -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/20/2019 12:29:30 AM)

This all looks great so far. My one question is about planet population control, in regard to race control can you say you don't want a certain race on your planets from migration rather than a race family only?



WinzLer -> RE: Distant Worlds 2 Christmas Sneak Peek! (12/20/2019 12:32:02 AM)

also I guess I had two questions... Can you finally build star bases that act like trade hubs out in space rather than having to use the planets as the hubs only?



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