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Anachro -> RE: January 15th, 1942 (3/10/2020 10:28:35 PM)
I'm not that worried about the immediacy of Palembang itself. Securing the areas around it will take priority. Airpower will be applied to keep its airfields at 100. We'll get there when we get there; I had planned for PH falling a lot earlier. If I could do it again, I'd secure Lahaina immediately with better planning for support troops, base troops, and AKEs to then continuously bombard PH.

Anachro -> RE: January 15th, 1942 (3/12/2020 4:22:42 PM)
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Canoerebel -> RE: January 15th, 1942 (3/12/2020 5:01:04 PM)
Isn't that last post meant for your John III AAR? If not, I'm really confused about what's going on in this game.

Anachro -> RE: January 15th, 1942 (3/12/2020 5:02:49 PM)
Yes, you are right! Thanks. [:D]

Anachro -> RE: January 15th, 1942 (3/17/2020 7:03:55 PM)
Latest attack at Pearl. We now have the capability to do daily continuous bombardment with CAs from Lahaina. In other news, CV Junyo just arrived on the scene, we rushed her a little to transfer the shipyard points ASAP to another CV, we also are desperate for additional air power to help with the push into the DEI. Elements of KB and battleships have returned or are returning to Tokyo to help with a heavy push on the Dutch, where we have fallen behind. Singapore fell a few days ago. It is early February. 5-6 slow BB's are very damaged in PH's port. quote: Night Naval bombardment of Pearl Harbor at 180,107 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 8 damaged P-40B Warhawk: 28 damaged P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground P-40E Warhawk: 15 damaged 11 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships CA Yoshino CA Mogami CA Haguro CA Myoko DD Urakaze DD Oyashio Allied Ships BB Tennessee, Shell hits 1, heavy damage BB Arizona, Shell hits 1, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 508 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 82 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Guns lost 15 (4 destroyed, 11 disabled) Vehicles lost 15 (4 destroyed, 11 disabled) Airbase hits 7 Runway hits 24 quote: Ground combat at Pearl Harbor (180,107) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 78018 troops, 945 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 1778 Defending force 55291 troops, 811 guns, 520 vehicles, Assault Value = 571 Japanese adjusted assault: 693 Allied adjusted defense: 827 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1551 casualties reported Squads: 68 destroyed, 81 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled Guns lost 38 (5 destroyed, 33 disabled) Allied ground losses: 3012 casualties reported Squads: 38 destroyed, 183 disabled Non Combat: 35 destroyed, 87 disabled Engineers: 3 destroyed, 59 disabled Guns lost 53 (5 destroyed, 48 disabled) Vehicles lost 19 (4 destroyed, 15 disabled) Assaulting units: Guards Mixed Brigade 90th Division 1st Maizuru Assault Division 56th Division 48th Engineer Regiment 55th Division 1st China Assault Division 1st Formosa Inf. Regiment 46th Division 21st Ind.Mixed Brigade 16th Division 1st Sasebo Assault Division 48th Field Artillery Regiment 17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 47th Infantry Regiment 35th JNAF AF Unit Defending units: 25th Infantry Division 19th Infantry Regiment 34th Infantry Regiment 21st Infantry Regiment 34th Cmbt Engineer Regiment 251st Coast AA Regiment 14th Naval District 21st Base Group Seventh USAAF 8th Port Maint Engineer Battalion 11th Base Group 3rd Marine Defense Battalion 2nd Pioneer Battalion 21st MAG US Pacific Fleet 97th Coast AA Regiment Hawaiian Dept 19th Base Group Oahu Harbor Defense 198th Field Artillery Battalion 64th Coast AA Regiment VII US Bomber Cmnd 4th Marine Defense Battalion 18th Base Group 98th Coast AA Regiment 804th Aviation Engineer Battalion VII US Fighter Cmnd

Q-Ball -> RE: January 15th, 1942 (4/26/2020 3:54:50 PM)
This game is called as of 3/16/42 game time; I think I can post since Sean graciously conceded. He's a good opponent, just time got away from him. From my seat, the main issue game-wise is that the landing at Pearl was a very risky gamble that failed. Other than some xAKs with supply, I didn't get anything into Pearl, but the troops were still holding on, though in terrible shape. It was close for awhile, but we managed to hold on vs. the equivalent of 9 divisions attacking the place. Pearl is just too tough a nut; there are 2 US Divisions, plus Marine Def Bns, Combat Engineers, and other units, and a ton of engineers that require round the clock bombing/bombardment to prevent fort building. There are tons of CD guns that will sink 1 or 2 transports out of every TF that lands troops or supplies (though they are pretty useless vs. shore bombardments). A ton of mines too. I was about to hit the bombarding surface ships with all my CVs, which I think would've succeeded, because his CV were almost all in the DEI, and I didn't see many Naval Bombers at Lahaina. I had some supply convoys to bring more supplies, though Pearl still had 95K at end, so not yet critical. Those IJA troops I think were kind of stranded, lifting them off would've been risky and expensive, and the whole game was basically done because this gambit didn't work. So, don't invade Pearl would be my advice for anyone!!!!

RangerJoe -> RE: January 15th, 1942 (4/26/2020 6:39:11 PM)
If he would have captured Hawaii first, built up both bases there while also working on the other islands, you would have lost at Oahu. Someone did just that to someone in an AAR. I don't remember who was playing, however, as it was some time ago.

Q-Ball -> RE: January 15th, 1942 (4/26/2020 9:43:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe If he would have captured Hawaii first, built up both bases there while also working on the other islands, you would have lost at Oahu. Someone did just that to someone in an AAR. I don't remember who was playing, however, as it was some time ago. It might be possible to besiege Pearl that way, but I still don't think it can be taken. This was BTS where the Empire gets a whole bunch of extra divisions to use, and it still didn't work. It also begs the question what next after Pearl

RangerJoe -> RE: January 15th, 1942 (4/26/2020 9:50:26 PM)
Portland would be next if it is under defended. Or bomb/bombard all resource centers along the west coast. Or both. Think of the VPs. If manpower hits can destroy factories, that is also an option. Someone did try to take San Diego but failed. He also besieged Los Angles. An invasion of Canada land would also make things difficult, especially if there is an HR where restricted American units could not go into Canada land.

CaptBeefheart -> RE: January 15th, 1942 (4/27/2020 9:07:54 AM)
I've seen Pearl taken a couple of times (I believe in a stock scenario, though). RangerJoe is correct on the procedure--take a nearby base and do a lot of shore bombarding. I think it helps to have the KB as well so as to keep reinforcements and supply at bay. BTS may be a tougher nut regarding what starts on Pearl, though. Cheers, CB

Q-Ball -> RE: January 15th, 1942 (4/27/2020 1:43:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Portland would be next if it is under defended. Or bomb/bombard all resource centers along the west coast. Or both. Think of the VPs. If manpower hits can destroy factories, that is also an option. Someone did try to take San Diego but failed. He also besieged Los Angles. An invasion of Canada land would also make things difficult, especially if there is an HR where restricted American units could not go into Canada land. I thought of that, and did make a few preparations. I put US Troops at Victoria to control the straits, and also moved Regt to Astoria to guard the CD guns at the mouth of the Columbia River. I think it's possible to bomb the US from Canada, but I don't think Portland and/or Tacoma are takeable. On BTS without withdrawls, there are several US Infantry Divisions on the US West Coast; I had 2 divisions in Portland that were dug-in and 100% prepped. And that's after taking out the CD guns in Astoria. The US has alot of air units, tons of flak and engineers, and of course unlimited supplies. I just don't see it unless a player is negligent.

RangerJoe -> RE: January 15th, 1942 (4/27/2020 1:49:56 PM)
A player was negligent and lost Portland in one game. A couple of people tried to pick up the pieces but it was difficult. I wonder, if you lose the CVEs, can you buy back the associated air groups?? Or are they lost as well?

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