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erwinuri -> RE: New Scenario - BETA - Blackmail, 2019 (1/29/2020 8:23:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Selchu

In fact a suggestion. If it's trigger by a LUA script, then have it also trigger a special message to help develop the story..........add to the confusion.


Done! Also, South Russia mission was stated in the Briefing I think.




erwinuri -> RE: New Scenario - BETA - Blackmail, 2019 (1/29/2020 8:33:13 PM)

UPDATE!




Selchu -> RE: New Scenario - BETA - Blackmail, 2019 (2/4/2020 10:58:50 AM)

Holy crap...... What an update 😳




Selchu -> RE: New Scenario - BETA - Blackmail, 2019 (2/9/2020 11:09:13 PM)

Ok,
So the update has indeed changed alot. Firstly within about 15 mins of starting there are missiles everywhere. Unfortunately I'm finding it difficult to deal with them all and this is having some knock on affects. Al-Mussaanah has been hit so fast that I have lost some F22s while they are still loading out and can't take off.
The carriers have held out ok so far but there has been a massive effort to sink them. Some of the missiles are in the air from the Russian SAG before I can locate them and also I suspect from some of their subs.
I am trying to counter this but the air attacks are just taking alot of my time and mean I can't get looking at the Georgia mission at all.
It's a tough nut now.

Also noted is the price you have to pay to use the Ohio.
Also did you change the SV-22s on the LHAs? The previous version had refueling capable ones but they seem to be gone now?




erwinuri -> RE: New Scenario - BETA - Blackmail, 2019 (2/10/2020 5:09:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Selchu

Also did you change the SV-22s on the LHAs? The previous version had refueling capable ones but they seem to be gone now?


Mmmm no, I don't think I did. My update may have been before the last CMO update (don't quote me on that) and loadout databases may have shifted. I will check it and come back at you.

Thank you Selchu for keeping up with it. Tell your Raptors I said sorry...




Selchu -> RE: New Scenario - BETA - Blackmail, 2019 (2/10/2020 7:01:13 PM)

I also figured out the problem with the fighter missiles. Mine jeep fire at about max range and then running out. Asked on discord earlier so I have changed the WRA so they fire at 50nm. Have done this for all AMRAAMS. it's a good premise.
I'll have a couple of suggestions for you later tonight. Have changed a couple of things on my version to see if it makes a difference.




Selchu -> RE: New Scenario - BETA - Blackmail, 2019 (2/16/2020 1:08:19 AM)

OK, Couple of suggestions.
Firstly I haven't finished the mission yet. I'm currently about 5 hours in and so have run it to this point about 4 times.
The mission to sink the Russian SAG is very difficult. The 3 Sergey Gorshkov FFG's have high powered anti air defence lasers. I have been trying to get a strike through them with no luck. I even did an experiment where I used 8 B-1s with AGM-158C LRASM. 196 missiles only got me 3 kills. I would suggest for balance cutting it down to 1 or even 2 of these and have the earlier 2017 variant in there to maintain you fleet numbers.
This is just a thought for balance. A player could launch the B-1s and every FA-18 in 2 strike groups and still only have a small chance of hitting. This will burn both alot of scenario time and munitions that the player needs to complete missions later.

The SV-22 on the LHAs can do refueling but it needs the refueling kit to be available. I added it to mine. That being said you could put a couple of tankers on Masirah and remove a couple from Diego Garcia to keep the balance.

I have also move my ships starting position back slightly to allow setup time before rounds start flying. This also allows time for the battlefield to populate. I don't know what the story in the book says but the Russians launch a strike seemingly straight away and thats whith my ships on EMCON.

I would also consider adding mor LRASM missiles to the base that the B1s fly from. Give the player a choice of loadout for their 2nd shots.

Just a couple of thoughts so far.




serjames -> RE: New Scenario - BETA - Blackmail, 2019 (2/16/2020 8:37:39 AM)

Yep, lasers are not working correctly. See https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4760203




Selchu -> RE: New Scenario - BETA - Blackmail, 2019 (2/16/2020 11:33:14 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: serjames

Yep, lasers are not working correctly. See https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4760203


Cheers SJ. Hadn't seen that post.


Also something else I noticed was that the Indian navy went hostile to me quite early. And this time without and accompanying message.




erwinuri -> RE: New Scenario - BETA - Blackmail, 2019 (2/19/2020 9:38:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: serjames

Yep, lasers are not working correctly. See https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4760203


Yeah I been looking it up. Laser dazlers in these FFGs are not even expected to destroy solid objects but to confuse, cause damage to a pilot etc... at least that is their claim.
Nevertheless I took it out




Selchu -> RE: New Scenario - BETA - Blackmail, 2019 (3/7/2020 10:22:20 AM)

And I think I'm done.
Good wee scenario. Really enjoyed it and looking forward to the next version. I'll post my loses/expenditures below. Some suggestions to consider.

I lost several of my F-22s in the SSM strike on Al-Mussanah. That's fair enough. I rebased the survivors at Masirah. Having some bombs there for the F-22s would have meant I could have kept them in the bomber business instead of having to shift them to Air patrols.

I think adding several tankers to Masirah is a good idea. I lost several aircraft as they ran out of fuel. Using Hornets and a couple of SV-22s helped but I have lots of aircraft in the air and eventually some of them ran out. This became especially true once I was launching F-18s off the carriers for strikes in Iran and I had the majority of my aircraft in the air. Also I believe when the 'we have lost contact with some ships' part fires I think some aircraft had problems landing and they also ran out of fuel.
In all honesty I rebased the tankers I had in Diego Garcia to Masirah but some more would have been very helpful. Also having tankers means that the Tomcats that appear late on can be brought into use depending on the distance when they are noticed at.

In a previous version there had been a message about India's intentions. This message did not appear on this run through. The first I knew about India's aggression was when they sank the USS Providence. Needless to say Their fleet was put down as quickly as I could arrange it to free up the right flank. When the carrier was taken down i then got a message telling me that India was out of the fight. Several hours later the ASM strike from India was launched. Potentially a rude surprise especially after the 'India is finished' message.

Potentially adding another drone to Al-Mussanah would be helpful but this is primarily in case the ASM strike destroys the 2 on the ground.

I would consider adding some more LRASM missiles to the B-1 base. This would give the player some flexibility in what way they would like to rearm and use the bombers.

If I think of anything else I'll add it here but as I said that was a good and fun mission and really enjoyed it. Gonna have to order the books up when I finish my current series.
Many thanks.
Sel

And now the loses/expenditures list.

SIDE: US
===========================================================

LOSSES:
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2x A/C Hangar (1x Very Large Aircraft)
1x A/C Hangar (2x Medium Aircraft)
3x Ammo Pad
4x B-1B Lancer
2x EA-18G Growler
3x F/A-18E Super Hornet
5x F/A-18F Super Hornet
1x F/A-18F Super Hornet
8x F-15C Eagle
11x F-22A Raptor
8x F-35B Lightning II
9x F-35C Lightning II
1x MH-60R Seahawk
4x RQ-180 UAV
1x SSN 719 Providence [Los Angeles Class, Flight II, VLS]
1x SSN 778 New Hampshire [Virginia Class, Flight II]
1x SSN 784 North Dakota [Virginia Class, Flight III]
2x SV-22D Osprey


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
2x 20mm/85 M61A2 Vulcan Burst [100 rnds]
3x 480 USG Drop Tank
2x 600 USG Drop Tank
7x ADC Mk2 Mod 0 Torpedo Decoy
8x ADC Mk2 Mod 3 Torpedo Decoy
6x ADC Mk3 Mod 1 Torpedo Countermeasure
6x ADC Mk4 Mod 1 Sonar Jammer
30x AGM-154A JSOW [145 x BLU-97/B Dual Purpose]
24x AGM-154C-1 JSOW [BROACH]
64x AGM-158B JASSM-ER
310x AGM-158C LRASM
154x AGM-84K SLAMER-ATA
225x AGM-88E AARGM
687x AIM-120D AMRAAM P3I.4
17x AIM-152B AAAM [H/R]
13x AIM-9X Sidewinder
18x AIM-9X-2 Sidewinder Blk II
5x AN/ALE-50 [RT-1646/ALE]
4x AN/ALE-55 FOTD
3x AN/ALE-70 FOTD
1298x AN/SSQ-53F DIFAR
2x AN/SSQ-62D DICASS
1011x AN/SSQ-62E DICASS
382x AN/SSQ-77B VLAD
1x Aster 15 PAAMS [GWS.45 Sea Viper]
7x Aster 30 PAAMS [GWS.45 Sea Viper]
82x GBU-31(V)1/B JDAM [Mk84]
16x GBU-31(V)3/B JDAM [BLU-109/B]
24x GBU-32(V)2/B JDAM [Mk83]
80x GBU-39/B SDB
1x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
54x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
37x Generic Chaff Salvo [8x Cartridges]
30x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Dual Spectral]
4x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
1x Generic Flare Salvo [4x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
17x MIM-104E Patriot PAC-2 GEM+
20x MIM-104F Patriot PAC-3 ERINT
12x Mk48 Mod 6 ADCAP MOD
30x Mk48 Mod 7 ADCAP CBASS
12x Mk54 HAAWC Mod 0
13x Mk54 LHT Mod 0
56x Mk82 500lb LDGP
36x RGM-109C Tomahawk Blk III TLAM-C
183x RGM-109E Tomahawk Blk IV TACTOM
74x RGM-109I Tomahawk Blk IV MMT [Multi-Mission]
1x RIM-116B RAM Blk I
1x RIM-116C RAM Blk II
5x RIM-162A ESSM
1x RIM-162D ESSM
77x RIM-174A ERAM SM-6 Dual I
44x RIM-66M-2 SM-2MR Blk IIIA
63x RIM-66M-5 SM-2MR Blk IIIB
5x SSQ-926 ALFEA
22x SSQ-963D CAMBS VI
69x UGM-109E Tomahawk Blk IV TACTOM
24x UGM-109E Tomahawk Blk IV TACTOM
44x UGM-109I Tomahawk Blk IV MMT [Multi-Mission]



SIDE: Russia
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LOSSES:
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2x A-50U Mainstay A
8x Ammo Bunker (Surface)
3x AvGas Bunker (750k Liter Tank)
1x BPK Udaloy I [Pr.1155 Fregat]
1x BPK Udaloy II [PR.1155.1 Fregat-M]
1x Bunker (ACINT SOSUS Station)
1x Commercial Container Vessel - Ultra Large [15,000 TEU, 160,000t DWT]
2x EM Sovremenny I [Pr.956A Sarych]
23x Ka-27M Helix A
3x Ka-29RLD Helix
12x MiG-29 Fulcrum A
10x MiG-29KUB Fulcrum D
2x MiG-31K Foxhound
3x MRK Buyan Mod [Pr.21631 Buyan-M]
1x PL-677 Lada [P.1650]
1x PLA-671RTMK Victor III [Shchuka]
1x PLA-885 Severodvinsk [Yasen]
2x PLA-971 Akula I Improved [Shchuka-B]
3x PLA-971M Akula II [Shchuka-B]
3x PLARK-949A Oscar II [Antey]
1x Radar (Cheese Board [96L6E])
1x RKR Marshal Ustinov [Pr.1164 Atlant]
1x RKR Moskva [Pr.1164 Atlant, Ex-Slava]
1x RKR Petr Velikiy [Pr.1144.2 Orlan, Ex-Yuri Androvo]
6x SA-11 Gadfly [9A38/9M317] TELAR
3x SA-11 Gadfly [9A39/9M317] LLV
4x SA-15e Gauntlet [9A331] TELAR
15x SA-16 Gimlet [9K310 Igla-1] MANPADS
14x SA-19 Grisom [2S6M1] TELAR
6x SA-20a Gargoyle [5P85SE] TEL
8x SA-21a Growler TEL
33x SA-21a/b Growler TEL
14x SA-22 Greyhound [96K6 Pantsir-S1, KAMAZ-6560 8x8] TELAR
9x SA-24 Grinch [9K338 Igla-S] MANPADS
12x SA-26 [50P6] TEL
2x SKR Admiral Grigorovich [Pr.1135.6M]
3x SKR Admiral Sergey Gorshkov [Pr.2235.0]
24x SSC-5 Stooge TEL [K-340P]
36x Su-30M2 Flanker G
20x Su-33 Flanker D
20x Su-34 Fullback
42x Su-35S Flanker E
12x Su-57 Felon
1x TAKR Admiral Kuznetsov [Pr.1143.5]
10x Tu-160 Blackjack
20x Tu-22M-3M Backfire C
12x Vehicle (Band Stand [Monolit B])
3x Vehicle (Cheese Board [96L6])
1x Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66])
3x Vehicle (Grave Stone [92N2])
3x Vehicle (SA-25 FCR [50N6A])
1x Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6])
1x YZ-3 Shahab Thaqeb [Ya Zahra-3] TEL


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
37x 100mm/59 A-190 Frag
21x 130mm/54 A-192 Frag
28x 30mm 2A38M Burst [50 rnds]
105x 30mm 2S6 Burst [50 rnds]
12x 30mm Gsh-30-1 Burst [30 rnds]
62x 30mm Twin Gatling Gsh-6-30K Burst [375 rnds]
37x 30mm Twin Gatling Gsh-6-30KD [375 rnds]
39x AA-10 Alamo A [R-27R, MR TSARH]
18x AA-10 Alamo C [R-27ER, LR TSARH]
13x AA-11 Archer [R-73]
11x AA-11 Archer [R-73M]
158x AA-12 Adder B [R-77-1, RVV-SD]
33x AK-100 100mm/70 Frag
56x AK-130 130mm/54 Twin Frag Burst [2 rnds]
56x AK-630M 30mm/65 Gatling Burst [400 rnds]
8x AK-630M 30mm/65 Twin Gatling Burst [800 rnds]
32x AS-20 Kayak [Kh-35U Star]
17x Generic Acoustic Decoy
2x Generic Acoustic Decoy
192x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
29x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
3x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
10x Generic Flare Salvo [4x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
48x Kh-101
2x MG-114 Berilly
218x PK-10 Chaff [SR-50]
200x PK-10 Flare [SO-50]
47x PK-2 Chaff [TSP-47]
18x PK-2 Flare [TST-47]
34x RGB-16MK [Search, Passive Omni]
31x SA-11 Gadfly [9M38M1]
15x SA-15e Gauntlet [9M338K]
3x SA-16 Gimlet [9M313]
53x SA-19 Grisom [9M311-M1]
19x SA-20a Gargoyle [48N6]
29x SA-20b Gargoyle [48N6E2]
60x SA-21a Growler [48N6DM]
41x SA-22 Greyhound [57E6]
22x SA-N-11a Grisom [9M311K]
10x SA-N-11b Grisom [9M311K-1]
48x SA-N-12 Grizzly [9M317]
96x SA-N-20b Gargoyle [48N6M]
96x SA-N-21d Growler [9M96D]
9x SA-N-22 Greyhound [57E6]
20x SA-N-24 Grinch [9M342]
6x SA-N-4b Gecko [9M33M3]
111x SA-N-6a Grumble [5R55RM]
46x SA-N-7 Gadfly [9M38]
3x SA-N-9 Gauntlet [9M330-2 Kinzhal]
96x SSC-5 Stooge [P-800 Onyx]
32x SS-N-12 Sandbox Mod 2 [P-1000]
4x SS-N-16 Stallion [RPK-7 Vodopei, UMGT-1 Torpedo]
32x SS-N-19 Shipwreck [P-700 Granit]
6x UGST [Fizik-1]
32x YZ-3 Shahab Thaqeb [Ya Zahra-3]



SIDE: Iran
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
16x 23mm ZSU-23-4 Shilka
41x 23mm ZU-23-2
20x 35mm Twin Oerlikon [UAR-1021 Skyguard FCR]
1x A/C Hangar (1x Very Large Aircraft)
1x A/C Hangar (2x Large Aircraft)
2x A/C Hangar (2x Medium Aircraft)
7x A/C Hardened Aircraft Shelter (1x Large Aircraft)
6x A-50U Mainstay A
5x Ammo Bunker (Surface)
1x Ammo Pad
7x Ammo Shelter
7x AvGas (150k Liter Tank)
2x AvGas (400k Liter Underground Tank)
6x AvGas (75k Liter Tank)
4x Building (Airport Terminal)
2x Building (Control Tower)
6x F-14A Tomcat [F-14AM]
23x F-4E Phantom II
9x Khalij Fars [Fateh 110 Mod] TEL
6x M192 I-HAWK [Mersad Upgrade]
4x Radar (1L119 Nebo SVU)
2x Radar (Cheese Board [96L6E])
1x Radar (China Type 408C)
1x Radar (Sepehr OTH-B)
13x SA-15d Gauntlet [9A331MK/9A332] TELAR
20x SA-22 Greyhound [96K6 Pantsir-S1, KAMAZ-6560 8x8] TELAR
12x Soumar [Kh-55 Mod] TEL
8x Su-24MK Fencer D
8x Tu-142M Bear F Mod 2
4x Tu-16P Badger J
1x Vehicle (CWAR [Mersad Upgrade])
2x Vehicle (HPI [Mersad Upgrade])
1x Vehicle (PAR [Mersad Upgrade])
10x Vehicle (UAR-1021 Skyguard)
2x Vehicle (YZ-3 Search Radar)
4x YZ-3 Shahab Thaqeb [Ya Zahra-3] TEL


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
1x 20mm/85 M61A1 Vulcan Burst [100 rnds]
2x 23mm AM-23 x 2 Burst [50 rnds]
4x 23mm ZSU-23-4 Shilka Burst [50 rnds]
20x 23mm ZU-23-2 Burst [20 rnds]
2x 267 USG Drop Tank
349x 30mm 2A38M Burst [50 rnds]
248x 35mm Twin Oerlikon Burst [20 rnds, UAR-1021 Skyguard]
2x 370 USG Drop Tank
1x 600 USG Drop Tank
1x AGM-78D Standard [ARM]
1x AIM-23C I-HAWK [Sejil]
13x AIM-7E2 Sparrow III
4x C-801K [YJ-81K]
23x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
69x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
13x Generic Chaff Salvo [8x Cartridges]
23x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
13x Generic Flare Salvo [4x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
6x MIM-23B I-HAWK [Shahin Mod, Mersad Upgrade]
17x Misagh-2
2x Qassed-1 [Mk84, GBU-78/A, GBU-15-Inspired]
21x RGB-15 [Refined Search, Passive Omni]
23x RGB-25 [Track, Passive Directional]
29x RGB-55A [Track, Active/Passive]
33x RGB-75 [Basic Search, Passive Omni]
102x SA-15b Gauntlet [9M331]
187x SA-22 Greyhound [57E6]
36x Soumar [Kh-55 Mod]
16x YZ-3 Shahab Thaqeb [Ya Zahra-3]



SIDE: India
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
1x A 50 Deepak
3x A-50E/I Mainstay
2x Akash
1x D 51 Rajput [Pr.61ME Kashin II]
1x D 61 Delhi [Pr.15]
1x D 66 Visakhapatnam [Pr.15B]
1x F 47 Shivalik [Pr.17]
7x Harop TEL
12x Jaguar IM [Darin 3]
6x Ka-25BSh Hormone A
24x MiG-29KUB Fulcrum D
4x P-8I Neptune [Poseidon]
1x R 24 Vikrant
1x Radar (EL/M-2083 Aerostat)
3x Radar (Tin Shield A [5N59])
8x Rafale C
1x S 50 Kalvari [Scorpene]
1x S 71 Chakra [PLA-971I Akula II]
2x SA-19 Grisom [2S6M] TELAR
12x Su-30MKI Flanker H
1x Vehicle (Rajendra)


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
9x 100mm/59 A-190 Frag
1x 30mm Twin Gatling Gsh-6-30K Burst [375 rnds]
8x 76mm/62 Super Rapido HE Burst [2 rnds]
6x AA-12 Adder A [R-77, RVV-AE]
6x AK-630 30mm/65 Gatling Burst [400 rnds]
7x AK-630M 30mm/65 Gatling Burst [400 rnds]
30x AN/SSQ-53F DIFAR
24x AN/SSQ-62E DICASS
30x AN/SSQ-77B VLAD
32x Barak 8
11x Barak I
53x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
24x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
6x Meteor
14x MICA EM
16x MICA IR
1x Mk54 LHT Mod 0
2x PJ-10 Brahmos
4x PK-16 Chaff [TSP-60U]
2x PK-16 Flare [TST-60U]
8x PK-2 Chaff [TSP-47]
4x PK-2 Flare [TST-47]
57x RGB-1 [NATO BM-1, Search, Passive Omni]
5x SA-19 Grisom [9M311]
13x SA-N-12 Grizzly [9M317]
12x SA-N-1b Goa [M-1M/P Volna-M/P, 4K91 / V-601]
42x SA-N-7 Gadfly [9M38]
27x Super Barricade Chaff
12x Super Barricade Flare



SIDE: China
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
23x AN/SSQ-53F DIFAR
14x AN/SSQ-62E DICASS



SIDE: Neutral
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
1x Biologic Fish School
1x Commercial Tanker - Very Large Crude Carrier [300,000t DWT]
2x False Contact (Wreck)


EXPENDITURES:
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Selchu -> RE: New Scenario - BETA - Blackmail, 2019 (3/7/2020 11:07:39 AM)

Oh 1 last thing to add, at the scenario start I turned on the realistic sub comms feature.




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