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jesperpehrson -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/4/2020 8:43:46 AM)

Mar/Apr 1940 Allied #9

Weather 7

CW- Land
France - Land
US - pass


Port strikes:
None

Naval air:
None

Naval movement:
None

Strategic bombardment:
A CW bomber in Sardinia bombs Rome. a 3 is rolled, failure.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/wOTrvsL.jpg[/img]


Grounds strikes:
None

Rail movement:
The Manchester MIL rails to London

Land movement:
The division on Sardinia captures Cagliari
The INF in Benghazi moves towards Tripoli
The units near Tobruk oozes westwards (after I realized we are not playing with emergency HQ supply I am less worried...)
[img]https://i.imgur.com/RaVVGiM.jpg[/img]

The TERR in Uganda moves north into the Sudan
[img]https://i.imgur.com/dHMtLfM.jpg[/img]

The INF in Bristol moves to Plymouth
The units in France (both CW and France) shuffle a bit.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/DnhDtma.jpg[/img]

Landcombat:
None

Air rebase:
The Hurricane in Lille moves to Dover


HQ reorg:
None

End of turn on a die less than 4. Roll is a 1. Turn ends.
Please send me your orders for end of turn. I will send the turn so you can prepare.



jesperpehrson -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/4/2020 9:16:34 AM)

End of turn Mar/Apr 1940, part 1

Partisans:
Korea roll 1, garrison roll 2
Partisan placed in forest NE of Pyongyang
[img]https://i.imgur.com/SDUDI0t.jpg[/img]
China roll 44
Malaya roll 48
NEI roll 42
Burma roll 37
Manchuria roll 59
India roll 84
French Indochina roll 2, garrison roll 8, no partisan

Neutrality chit markers:
USSR - 1 defensive
Germany - 2 defensive, move one offensive to defensive

US entry:
1 chit towards Japan

US entry options:
Resources to China - roll 9, no tension
Resources to western Allies, roll 6, 1 chit moved to tension from GE/IT-pool

Waiting for orders from the others on how to proceed.



warspite1 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/4/2020 11:09:08 AM)

I've checked my orders for Neutrality markers and have asked for 2 x defensive each turn - for some reason I have 5 x defensive and 1 offensive - and now a further 2 given over to offensive this turn.

Can we please amend this so that I have (including this turn) 8 defensive markers please. This should be an easy fix but needs the first part of the end of turn re-done with 2 x defensive and the remaining 1 x offensive to be switched to defensive. That will get the Germans back to where they are supposed to be.

Thank-you.


March/April 1940
Impulse: End of Turn Malarchy - EuroAxis


Neutrality Pact:
2 x Defensive Chits please.

Production Planning:

Germany

Oil Situation:

1 x Oil from Romania (saved in Berlin)
1 x Oil from Romania (to production)
2 x Oil from USSR (both saved in Warsaw)
1 x Oil from Austria (to production)
1 x Oil from Germany (to Italy as part of trade agreement)

13 Oil last turn so should be 16 (less what is used to reorganise)
12 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

Italy

Oil Situation:

1 x Oil from Romania (to production)
1 x Oil from Germany (to production)
8 Build Points (incl. 0 saved)

3 Oil last turn so should be 3 (less what is used to reorganise)


Stay At Sea:

Italy

N/a

Germany

Convoys only

Return to Base:

N/a

Oil Reorganisation:

Germany

Reorganise all for 1.1 Oil (1 Oil expended)

Italy

N/a for 0.0 Oil (0 Oil expended)

Breakdown: None


Production:
Germany

1 x PIL
2 x NAV (4)
1 x GARR

Italy

2 x TERR
1 x NAV (3)
1 x SUB

Factory Destruction:
Italy


Reinforcement:
Germany

Assign the 6-factor stuka, and the 6-factor Bf-109

Kiel: SUB
Saarbrucken: stuka, Bf-109

Italy

Assign the 4-factor fighter

Addis Ababa: TERR
Berbera: TERR
La Spezia: Andrea Doria, Littorio
Rome: FTR


Trade Agreement:

Germany

Amend the existing Agreement: 4 Build Points, 3 x resources and 1 oil to Italy


Re-Roll if I have one
If I get the chance to move first I will.



MEMO ITEM:

Germany
Oil (7 x Berlin, 4 x Lodz, 4 x Warsaw) = 15
0 x Build Points (0)

Italy
Oil (3 x Milan) = 3
0 x Build Point (0)



jesperpehrson -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/4/2020 1:18:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

I've checked my orders for Neutrality markers and have asked for 2 x defensive each turn - for some reason I have 5 x defensive and 1 offensive - and now a further 2 given over to offensive this turn.

Can we please amend this so that I have (including this turn) 8 defensive markers please. This should be an easy fix but needs the first part of the end of turn re-done with 2 x defensive and the remaining 1 x offensive to be switched to defensive. That will get the Germans back to where they are supposed to be.

Thank-you.


No problem! I fix!




jesperpehrson -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/4/2020 1:52:51 PM)

Robert, your two TERR for Italy are the 4-2 ETH and 1-2 BSO. Please update your end of turn-orders!



jesperpehrson -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/4/2020 1:56:46 PM)

End of turn Mar/Apr 1940, part 2

Preliminary production:
Germany 12bp, 3 oil
Italy 8 bp, 0 oil
Japan 14bp, 1 oil

China 4bp, 0 oil
CW 17, 6bp oil
France 6bp, 1 oil
US 10bp, 1 oil
USSR 14bp, 1 oil

Stay at sea:
CW stays with convoyprotection as possible.
CW keeps a presence in the North Sea and East Med.

France keeps their fleet in the Western Med.

Return to base:
CW returns convoyprotection to Plymouth or Gibraltar.
The CW transport loaded with an ENG sails to Mangalore in India.

Japan returns a transport loaded with an INF to Seoul.
2 other japanese transports loaded with infantry are sent to Canton.
2 japanese convoys are returned from the Japanese Coast as they are no longer needed to comply with the US-Japanese trade agreement. (Ronnie if this is not correct you will need to hack them back in place!)

Oil:
Japan uses 1 oil
Germany uses 1 oil
Italy uses 0 oil

China uses 0 oil
CW uses 4 oil
France uses 0 oil
US uses 0 oil
USSR uses 0 oil

Final production:
Germany 12bp, 15 oil saved
Italy 8bp, 3 oil saved
Japan 14bp, 7 oil saved

China 4bp, 1 oil saved
CW 17bp, 11 oil saved
France 6bp, 3 oil saved
US 10bp, 7 oil saved
USSR 14bp, 7 oil saved

Scrap destroyed:
None

Production:
Germany builds 2 NAV4, 1 PIL and a GARR
Italy builds 2 TERR, 1 NAV3 and a SUB
Japan builds 2 CV (2nd), 1 INF, 1 MAR DIV, 1 NAV3 and a CVP1

China builds 1 INF and 1 CAV DIV.
CW builds 1 AMPH, 1 PIL, 2 FTR3, 2 Convoys and 2 MIL
France builds 3 TERR
US builds 1 AMPH, 1 CVP1, 1 PIL, 1 SUB and 1 INF
USSR builds 2 INF, 1 GARR and 1 ARM




warspite1 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/4/2020 2:09:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jesperpehrson

Robert, your two TERR for Italy are the 4-2 ETH and 1-2 BSO. Please update your end of turn-orders!
warspite1

Thank-you. Orders amended, although looks like it was the capital or nothing in both cases [;)]



jesperpehrson -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/4/2020 2:25:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: jesperpehrson

Robert, your two TERR for Italy are the 4-2 ETH and 1-2 BSO. Please update your end of turn-orders!
warspite1

Thank-you. Orders amended, although looks like it was the capital or nothing in both cases [;)]



It took me a while to figure out where BSO was.



jesperpehrson -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/4/2020 3:49:47 PM)

Start of turn, May/Jun 1940
(end of turn 2, part 2 is updated with all the builds)

Reinforcements:
China places an INF in Chengtu, a CAV in Ankang and another CAV in Kweilin.

CW assigns a pilot to a CVP.
CW places a MIL in Cape Town. They also deploy a CA and a convoy in Plymoth. A CV is fitted with a CVP and deployed in Bristol.
An Indian INF is deployed north of Bombay. A Bombay MIL is unable to be placed until further notice.
A convoy is deployed in Calcutta.

France deploys territorials in Madagascar, Morocco and Gabon

US deploys a SUB in San Diego.

USSR places 1 INF, 1 GARR and a INF DIV in Minsk and a CA in Leningrad.

Germany assigns the 6-factor stuka and the 6-factor Bf-109 with pilots.
Germany place a SUB in Kiel and a Stuka and a BF-109 in Saarbrucken.

Italy assigns the 4-factor fighter with a pilot.
Italy deploys a TERR in Addis Abeba and a TERR west of Berbera (as the other TERR blocked placing in Berbera). They also deploy two ships in La Spezia and a FTR in Rome.

Japan deploys 2 INF and a DIV in Tokyo.


Trade agreements:

Germany amends the existing agreement with Italy to: 4 Build Points, 3 x resources and 1 oil to Italy
CW makes a new agreement with China, sending 2 resources (min 1 oil)
France makes a new agreement with China, sending 1 resource
US makes a new agreement with CW, sending 2 oil


Initiative:

Axis rolls 8, making it a 9
Allies rolls 6.

Axis wins initiative and elects to go first.
Turn sent to Axis.



Weather for impulse #1 is a 1. Terrible weather all over.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/OTtgkUe.jpg[/img]



WILHELM_slith -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/4/2020 5:32:44 PM)

May/June 1940.
Axis 1

Japan chooses a Naval move.
A terrible storm is gonna make this a short impuls.
Await German orders.



warspite1 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/4/2020 5:48:25 PM)

The Germans and Italians will both choose a Land please. No orders until Land Movement phase.



warspite1 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/5/2020 5:25:36 AM)

May/Jun 1940
Impulse: 1 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Naval
Germany: Land
Italy: Land

Naval Air: Assume None

Naval Movement:
Japan

Looks like the infantry reinforcements have been sent to Shanghai (with one still on a TRS in the China Sea

Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement: None
Land Movement:
Germany

The German forces in the south and those in Alsace continue to try and join up. There are a couple of detail moves in Poland (GARR) and Germany (PARA) and a GARR moves into Holland.

Italy

A DIV and a MTN in the Massif Central move south and north respectively to try and stretch the French defence.

In East Africa the Italian TERR continue to move around a bit.

Land Combat: None

Rebase:
Germany

A couple of fighter and a bomber re-position on the French front.

Italy

An Italian bomber pushes into France to support the drive west.

Reorganisation: None



rkr1958 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/5/2020 5:01:55 PM)

Turn 5. May/June 1940. Allied #3. China & USSR MP (1/2).

China - land, USSR (neutral) - combine.

No DOWs, special actions, alignments.

No air or naval missions.

communist Chinese - no moves.

Nationalist Chinese land moves.

(1) 1st inf army. Chengtu to China 81,132.
(2) 1st cav corps. Ankang to China 79,135.

[image]local://upfiles/31901/16A63F0C4F4D4A91AFC8629AF7D6CE80.jpg[/image]



rkr1958 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/5/2020 5:03:58 PM)

Turn 5. May/June 1940. Allied #3. China & USSR MP (2/2).

USSR land moves.
(1) 4th inf army. Latvia 43,50 to Kaunas.
(2) 30th gar army. Minsk to Poland 47,50.
(3) 25th inf army. Minsk to Lithuania 46,49.
(4) 3rd inf div. Minsk to Lithuania 46,49.
(5) 17th gar army. Poland 54,51 to Lvov.

[image]local://upfiles/31901/626265DFC0ED42B6901D1330BDBBFC97.jpg[/image]



jesperpehrson -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/5/2020 5:48:09 PM)

Turn 5. May/June 1940. Allied #3

No DOW.

CW combined
France Land
US combined

Port attacks:
None

Naval air:
None

Naval movement:
3 US subs are sailed to the Hawaiian Islands
[img]https://i.imgur.com/3aYyHk1.jpg[/img]
A CW fleet moves out into the North Sea with transports and sealifts Gort and MIL
Some convoyprotection is sent to protect Cape St. Vincent

Strategic bombardment:
None

Groundstrikes:
None

Rail movement:
None

Landmovement:
The race for Tripoli continues.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/8eoDNvM.jpg[/img]

The Indian army prepare to take care of the dissidents in Mumbai.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/FT3DlS2.jpg[/img]

France tightens her defense around the heart of France.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/26YnW6b.jpg[/img]

Land combat:
None

Air rebase:
The belgian FTR is rebased to the coast.
A Hurricane is rebased to Brighton.
A Vildebeest NAV is rebased to Cagliari
A Hampden LND is rebased to Valetta

----

Weather roll is 4 + 2 = 6. Fine everywhere except N. Monsoon where it rains.
Turn sent!



WILHELM_slith -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/6/2020 10:51:00 AM)

Japan chooses a land move.
No action until the movement phase.



warspite1 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/7/2020 4:47:25 AM)

May/Jun 1940
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

Japan: Land
Germany: Land
Italy: Land

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike:
Germany

Two stukas (5 and 4 strength) fly to northwest of Reims and a stuka and Ju-88 fly to Reims (6 and 4 strength). The Germans bring in a 5-strength fighter to the northern most hex.

Potential German counter-interceptors are what you can see plus 1 x 6 and a 1 x 4-strength fighters in Metz.

What do the French wish to do?

[image]local://upfiles/28156/455EAB188C4B430AADD0F7CE5B8C1E16.jpg[/image]



jesperpehrson -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/7/2020 6:53:17 AM)

I send both MS-406 to hex NW of Reims to fight.
They will stay as long as there are German bombers present.
Return 1 to Paris (I think there is room there) and 1 to the west of Paris if they are still alive.




warspite1 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/7/2020 7:06:27 PM)

May/Jun 1940
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Orders are clear and so no need not to throw at the same time. French want to shoot the bombers down and the Germans need the bombers through.

Ground Strike (Air to Air Combat Subphase)

Allies - 8 (No Effect)
Axis - 9 (no Effect)

Round 2

Allies - 15 (DA) The Germans abort their front fighter
Axis - 11 (DC) There is nothing to clear through

Round 3

Allies - 10 (DC) The Germans put the best stuka through
Axis - 9 (No Effect)

Round 4

Allies - 13 (No Effect)
Axis - 3 (AX) An MS406 is shot down. The pilot survives.

Round 5

Allies - 7 (DA) The Germans abort their remaining fighter
Axis - 4 (AX) The French lose a second MS406. The pilot survives.

[image]local://upfiles/28156/12CA3038AE3D4325855D4967AFBA617C.jpg[/image]



warspite1 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/7/2020 7:30:43 PM)

May/Jun 1940
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Ground Strike AA Subphase

Do the French wish to bring in their AA

[image]local://upfiles/28156/6B2B577358A94F8DB153E3D6B6B33771.jpg[/image]



jesperpehrson -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/7/2020 7:37:01 PM)

Yes please



warspite1 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/7/2020 7:43:51 PM)

May/Jun 1940
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Ground Strike AA Subphase

The throws were 1,2,2,3,3

Post this picture the Germans reduce the 4-factor bomber by 1-point

[image]local://upfiles/28156/2E9C0162BD75465F905D0C686E6F9167.jpg[/image]



warspite1 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/7/2020 7:51:30 PM)

May/Jun 1940
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Ground Strike

[image]local://upfiles/28156/5FD58BE418E14DA29D9A10C679A4686D.jpg[/image]



warspite1 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/7/2020 7:54:47 PM)

May/Jun 1940
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Rail Movement: None
Land Movement:
Germany

The Germans push west up to the French line.

Italy

The Italians (and Germans) in the south continue to push into France. Toulouse is taken, the Garonne is crossed and the resource hex east of Nantes is captured by the Italian mechanised units.

Over to the Japanese



WILHELM_slith -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/8/2020 3:23:24 PM)

May/june 1940
imp 5

Japanese move up slowly. Resistance is getting heavier.
Debark : Nagoya mil. in Pyongang, Korea.
One combat : Sian mil is attacked by surrounding forces.
Unmodified is +18. Roll is 9. Modified result +23.
HQ plus stacked units move into hex.
Rebase the Ki-27 from Japan to Shanghai to keep partisans quiet.
That's it for Japan this turn

[image]local://upfiles/58992/D17321EEB27B478E838223C54872A784.jpg[/image]



WILHELM_slith -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/8/2020 3:24:41 PM)

Result

[image]local://upfiles/58992/54C07EE59C1F4982A40FECFFA1805177.jpg[/image]



warspite1 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/8/2020 4:02:30 PM)

May/Jun 1940
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Land Combat (Cont):
Japan

As per above

Germany

Just one attack announced: Reims. The odds are 49:11 (+13.9/18.4B)

The Germans bring in no aircraft. Do the French want to bring in the Potez as fighter or bomber and the bomber? The Germans have a 6,5,4 and 2 x 3 that can counter-intercept

[image]local://upfiles/28156/A1983179A200442689AACBCB2FE80410.jpg[/image]



rkr1958 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/9/2020 6:51:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Just one attack announced: Reims. The odds are 49:11 (+13.9/18.4B)

The Germans bring in no aircraft. Do the French want to bring in the Potez as fighter or bomber and the bomber? The Germans have a 6,5,4 and 2 x 3 that can counter-intercept
"can you please tell Warspite that I do not wanna fly the Potez in the 4PG" - Jesper.



warspite1 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/9/2020 6:56:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rkr1958


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Just one attack announced: Reims. The odds are 49:11 (+13.9/18.4B)

The Germans bring in no aircraft. Do the French want to bring in the Potez as fighter or bomber and the bomber? The Germans have a 6,5,4 and 2 x 3 that can counter-intercept
"can you please tell Warspite that I do not wanna fly the Potez in the 4PG" - Jesper.

warspite1

Why mention just the Potez? Does that mean the bomber flies then?



rkr1958 -> RE: GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp) (4/9/2020 7:15:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: rkr1958


quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Just one attack announced: Reims. The odds are 49:11 (+13.9/18.4B)

The Germans bring in no aircraft. Do the French want to bring in the Potez as fighter or bomber and the bomber? The Germans have a 6,5,4 and 2 x 3 that can counter-intercept
"can you please tell Warspite that I do not wanna fly the Potez in the 4PG" - Jesper.

warspite1

Why mention just the Potez? Does that mean the bomber flies then?

Jesper is out of town and sent the previous via skype. Just sent your new question via skype and will post as soon as I get a response assuming one comes in in the next few minutes.

Up briefly because of thunderstorms. It's 2 am here. [:(]



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