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Interesting take about the diversity of that area, John. But I'd leave room for optimistic outcomes for non-NYC areas here too. It may very well be that the unique diversity and intermingling you see in the daily life there isn't reflected elsewhere.

Having lived in / visited most other big metro areas in this country, I think that NYC is indeed unique. There's not so much intermingling anywhere else I can think of. Lost Angels is suburban sprawl. Same with Houston. Chicago is a hybrid between that and NYC. And the warmer climate in Atlanta, Miami, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and SoCal may be at least partially protective.

So I'm not convinced that everybody else in CONUS will 'get theirs' eventually. I think there's room for geographical regionalization (ala Italy) in how this virus gets spread around / dealt with and who gets it. I think there may be some lessons drawn from that at the end of the day too. We'll see.

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I wonder how the outbreaks in other areas outside NYC will play out. You'd think it would be similar, but other countries have had regional hot spots. How important will population density, early onset of countermeasures, climate and other factors affect other areas? Or will it turn out that pretty much all will be affected, sort of like Angela Merkel's "70% of Germans" will get it (IIRC).

For instance, Florida has dense population clusters and an aging population but it's already hot and humid there.

What is there, an echo in here? Try to keep up with the conversation, man! [:'(]

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obvert: Dyson is building 10k ventilators and is only awaiting approval of their finished design now to go into production.

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ORIGINAL: ITAKLinus

Some nasty spillovers are emerging, eventually.

The average deaths in the last years in Bergamo have been 98 between 01/03 and 24/03.

Total amount of deaths among residents has been 446.

Total amount of deaths due Cov-19: 136.

There are 212 deaths more than the average, then.

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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn


It's a beautiful day. Kingfishers must be mating, noisy! Wind is up, good day to fly a kite. Went to the bank. They asked "How do you want this?" I replied "Anything but Grant." Drive-thrus are busy. LOL! I hope this miniseries is over soon.

What have I learned... I sure do LOVE touching my face!

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn


It's a beautiful day. Kingfishers must be mating, noisy! Wind is up, good day to fly a kite. Went to the bank. They asked "How do you want this?" I replied "Anything but Grant." Drive-thrus are busy. LOL! I hope this miniseries is over soon.

What have I learned... I sure do LOVE touching my face!

"Anything but Grant" [:D]

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ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

Dan, In NY our hospitals are already at capacity and in the next few days will be overwhelmed. This is true of NYC and is true of many parts of the state. My town alone (probably bigger than your idea of a town) has over 500 cases. I live in a village in the town but I know we have cases. We only have the one hospital and it is slammed. The Governor told us the morning that the hospitals will be overwhelmed in he next few days. Our Governor has been sober and reassuring, but also bluntly honest.

BTW, Governor Cuomo is relying on one of the best medical minds in the country. Michael Dowling. Mr Dowling was Mario Cuomos Health Commissioner and is the CEO of Northshore Hospital systems. He is also my neighbor and his daughter and mine are best friends since 1st grade. Mr Dowling is old school Irish. Blindingly intelligent, frank, blunt and honest. Mr Dowling will be featured on 60 minutes this Sunday. If you can get near a TV I promise you there will be much wisdom to be gained

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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn


It's a beautiful day. Kingfishers must be mating, noisy! Wind is up, good day to fly a kite. Went to the bank. They asked "How do you want this?" I replied "Anything but Grant." Drive-thrus are busy. LOL! I hope this miniseries is over soon.

What have I learned... I sure do LOVE touching my face!

"Anything but Grant" [:D]

I had them all laughing.[:D]

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn


It's a beautiful day. Kingfishers must be mating, noisy! Wind is up, good day to fly a kite. Went to the bank. They asked "How do you want this?" I replied "Anything but Grant." Drive-thrus are busy. LOL! I hope this miniseries is over soon.

What have I learned... I sure do LOVE touching my face!

"Anything but Grant" [:D]

I had them all laughing.[:D]

I assume that you'd make a similar exception if Sherman was on a bill too?[;)]

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

According to Worldometers, New York State is reporting 19 deaths so far today.**

**Not only are there fluctuations in reporting by locality, state, country, etc., I get the feeling that there are fluctuations in updating by Worldometers, Johns Hopkins, etc. Might even be something like data entry personnel taking a lunch break, etc.

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Clearly we need larger inventories of N-95 masks (inexpensive) and more emergency ventilator reserves (very expensive).

The number of strategic reserve ventilators owned by Homeland Security is said to be 5000 to 30,000 (it's a secret). I have a feeling it's more than 5000 because we are sending 4000 to New York. I read Pence mentioned two shipments of 4,000 each.

What we DON'T need is foreign "partners" keeping secrets about emergent diseases. Amen.

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ORIGINAL: ITAKLinus

Some nasty spillovers are emerging, eventually.

The average deaths in the last years in Bergamo have been 98 between 01/03 and 24/03.

Total amount of deaths among residents has been 446.

Total amount of deaths due Cov-19: 136.

There are 212 deaths more than the average, then.

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A variety of outlets are touting this as a "shocking" total of 80,000 dead in the US in four months. That's serious, but if true its 2x or 3x seasonal flu over about the same amount of time. Earlier projections were wildly higher, so shouldn't this be comparatively good news?

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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

I find the 'relative size' national problem to be interesting as well. By sorting on the number of cases per million population, a different picture emerges. One can brush aside Vatican City here, but size-wise Switzerland, Iceland and Luxembourg are having a greater national challenge than Italy, Spain or Germany. The Swiss leading the charge in terms percentage of their population affected with this thing? Really? Counter-intuitive perhaps. But it might explain the northern / cooler climate argument=worst hit if one filters out the larger 'noise' of the raw case numbers of other larger countries.

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It's a beautiful day. Kingfishers must be mating, noisy! Wind is up, good day to fly a kite. Went to the bank. They asked "How do you want this?" I replied "Anything but Grant." Drive-thrus are busy. LOL! I hope this miniseries is over soon.

What have I learned... I sure do LOVE touching my face!

"Anything but Grant" [:D]

I had them all laughing.[:D]

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ORIGINAL: rader

I had contact with a confirmed positive last week who came back from Spain and this week I have had a bit of a fever and mild respiratory symptoms (shortness of breath).

I've been in isolation for all this week, since I found out about the exposure. Had a video appointment with a medical service and they think I probably have it but they aren't testing people like me - just telling us to self-isolate. It's definitely a very mild case (so far). I'm pretty young (40) and in good health so I'm not very worried, but it does make me think there must be a lot of cases out there that we're not including in the statistics. I had another friend too who also had all the symptoms, self-isolated, but couldn't get a test.

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ORIGINAL: alanschu

I noticed that India now has their own page on worldometers. I notice other places have more tests, but they have more deaths. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

I didn't realize this but they went on an aggressive lockdown on the 23rd, and on the 24th mentioned it was for 21 days.

Numbers are still super low, but they've been seeing a bit more of an uptick lately.

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John-any word on how some of the 'experimental' protocols of varying drug cocktails is working in NYC? Wasn't it 5-7 days ago that Cuomo said they'd be starting some of those trials?

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I had contact with a confirmed positive last week who came back from Spain and this week I have had a bit of a fever and mild respiratory symptoms (shortness of breath).

I've been in isolation for all this week, since I found out about the exposure. Had a video appointment with a medical service and they think I probably have it but they aren't testing people like me - just telling us to self-isolate. It's definitely a very mild case (so far). I'm pretty young (40) and in good health so I'm not very worried, but it does make me think there must be a lot of cases out there that we're not including in the statistics. I had another friend too who also had all the symptoms, self-isolated, but couldn't get a test.

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ORIGINAL: rader

I had contact with a confirmed positive last week who came back from Spain and this week I have had a bit of a fever and mild respiratory symptoms (shortness of breath).

I've been in isolation for all this week, since I found out about the exposure. Had a video appointment with a medical service and they think I probably have it but they aren't testing people like me - just telling us to self-isolate. It's definitely a very mild case (so far). I'm pretty young (40) and in good health so I'm not very worried, but it does make me think there must be a lot of cases out there that we're not including in the statistics. I had another friend too who also had all the symptoms, self-isolated, but couldn't get a test.

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ORIGINAL: rader

I had contact with a confirmed positive last week who came back from Spain and this week I have had a bit of a fever and mild respiratory symptoms (shortness of breath).

I've been in isolation for all this week, since I found out about the exposure. Had a video appointment with a medical service and they think I probably have it but they aren't testing people like me - just telling us to self-isolate. It's definitely a very mild case (so far). I'm pretty young (40) and in good health so I'm not very worried, but it does make me think there must be a lot of cases out there that we're not including in the statistics. I had another friend too who also had all the symptoms, self-isolated, but couldn't get a test.

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It's a beautiful day. Kingfishers must be mating, noisy! Wind is up, good day to fly a kite. Went to the bank. They asked "How do you want this?" I replied "Anything but Grant." Drive-thrus are busy. LOL! I hope this miniseries is over soon.

What have I learned... I sure do LOVE touching my face!

"Anything but Grant" [:D]

I had them all laughing.[:D]

You didn't say "All in McKinleys please"? They mighta had some around.

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6203 new cases and 712 new deaths in Italy. Worldometer has contacted Piedmont officials directly and received confirmation that the number of deaths in the region is 499, 50 more than reported in the Protezione Civile's bulletin today, We have checked the totals by region and can confirm that the total number of deaths in Italy as of today is 8,215 rather than 8,165 incorrectly reported by Protezione Civile. Accordingly, the total number of cases changes from 80,539 to 80,589.