|
pry -> (7/18/2003 8:12:16 PM)
|
[QUOTE]Originally posted by crsutton
[B] are they making a computer version of the old Europa title "Fire in the East-Scorched Earth". A game that many owned but so few ever played all the way through.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Actually originally named Drang Nach Osten and Unentschieden when released in 1973, (Dating myself again) I have always seen the Europa series as conceptually the best war games ever done. It's sheer size at 16 miles a hex and attention to detail were and still are unmatched. UV comes as close as any war-game I have played, especially since PC's killed the board game in the mid 80's.
And truth be told I had rather hoped WITP would indeed become the Pacific version of Europa but after reading the interview I see that the challenges faced by the designers may be to much to overcome and the level of detail is just too great for the current technology, that is a shame as I had this hope against hope that maybe just maybe the UV/WITP engine could be expanded into a true simulation of the entire WWII conflict The Ultimate War Game if you will (Something I would be willing to spend big bucks on and then spend my retirement years gladly playing)
The biggest problem with Europa was it's size few folks had a place to lay it all out and actually be able to play it, My mother got so mad at me for taking over the dining room and also for me coming unglued at any suggestion of actually ever using it for eating. There was a bloody battle over Thanksgiving dinner one year, which I lost along with about 6 months of game play. My Father finally came up with a solution he went out and bought several 4 x 8 sheets of corkboard and about a b-zillion pins and mounted the corkboard to the biggest wall in my bedroom. I then mounted the map to the wall and my friends and I spent months locked up in my bedroom playing.
I still have those maps and die cut counters with little holes in them and about a hundred other war games from the 70's and 80's in boxes in a closet that I can not seem to part with. We now have the perfect platform (the modern PC) to play these monster detailed games but even as far as technology has come in the last 25-30 years we still have not arrived at a point it looks like where it is possible to produce games with a Europa style level of scale and detail.
In a way this interview should end many of the nit-picking arguments in these forums, Now that we know the details we have to accept that WITP will not be all we hoped it would be and the level of detail we wanted is not going to happen. Some things will be recreated in generic fashion and it is a waste of everyone's time to argue if a B-17 could or could not hit a ship moving at 30 knots against Cap that may or may not intercept, Just an example but one of the more outrages ones to be sure. So WITP will end up with maybe not as much detail as UV, but light years ahead of PacWar and that works for me. Will I still purchase WITP you bet!!! And someday, maybe GG will figure out all the problems/limitations and give us the Ultimate Wargame.
Sorry for just rambling on here, you know us Texans we just love to talk :D
|
|
|
|
