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RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/12/2020 11:41:42 PM)

Panic-buyers strip supermarket shelves in Melbourne as the Australian city of five million people prepares for six-week lockdown

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8501005/Panic-buyers-strip-supermarket-shelves-Melbourne.html




RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/12/2020 11:44:40 PM)

Wearing a face mask decreases your risk of being infected with coronavirus by 65%, scientists find

There are two main methods of coronavirus transmission, with the first being via droplets that are expelled into the air when a person coughs or sneezes
The second is from aerosol particles that humans spray into air when we speak
Masks prevent both of these particles, the first which is visible and the second which isn't, from getting into the nose and mouth
Wearing a face mask decreases the risk of getting the virus by 65% and social distancing lowers the risk by 90%

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8503445/Wearing-face-mask-decreases-risk-infected-coronavirus-risk-65.html




Dante Fierro -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 12:11:28 AM)

Good post RangerJoe. I prefer the scientists over the politicians and their lawyers any day of the week. Thanks for the link.




RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 12:15:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Dante Fierro

Good post RangerJoe. I prefer the scientists over the politicians and their lawyers any day of the week. Thanks for the link.


You are welcome.

I also prefer the scientists over the politicians/lawyers but when other people bring them up and insult them . . .




Dante Fierro -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 12:25:15 AM)

Studies Report Rapid Loss of COVID-19 Antibodies
The results, while preliminary, suggest that survivors of SARS-CoV-2 infection may be susceptible to reinfection within weeks or months.

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/studies-report-rapid-loss-of-covid-19-antibodies-67650





durnedwolf -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 12:32:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


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ORIGINAL: Dante Fierro

Good post RangerJoe. I prefer the scientists over the politicians and their lawyers any day of the week. Thanks for the link.


You are welcome.

I also prefer the scientists over the politicians/lawyers but when other people bring them up and insult them . . .



Politicians and their lawyers can be insulted? [:D][:D] <oh-my-gosh! I was totally giggling over that one>




RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 12:49:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dante Fierro

Studies Report Rapid Loss of COVID-19 Antibodies
The results, while preliminary, suggest that survivors of SARS-CoV-2 infection may be susceptible to reinfection within weeks or months.

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/studies-report-rapid-loss-of-covid-19-antibodies-67650


But I reported earlier that the memory B cells may rapidly cause the antibodies to be produced. No need for the antibodies if there is no infection.




Dante Fierro -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 12:51:04 AM)

Houston hospitals are increasingly turning away new patients as coronavirus overwhelms emergency rooms

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/07/10/houston-hospitals-are-increasingly-turning-away-new-patients-as-coronavirus-overwhelms-emergency-rooms/?fbclid=IwAR2drnYhJVAjtOAKKR5Don2Xqav4fMSYqvLxJG9VDs--qjpXK1K6Nhj4OJ4




RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 1:02:26 AM)

National Center for Health StatisticsCoronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Reporting Guidance and Provisional Death Data

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/bsc/bsc-pres-Sutton-May-5-2020-508.pdf




RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 1:03:47 AM)

Understanding the Numbers:
Provisional Death Counts and COVID-19

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Understanding-COVID-19-Provisional-Death-Counts.pdf




obvert -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 6:33:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Wearing a face mask decreases your risk of being infected with coronavirus by 65%, scientists find

There are two main methods of coronavirus transmission, with the first being via droplets that are expelled into the air when a person coughs or sneezes
The second is from aerosol particles that humans spray into air when we speak
Masks prevent both of these particles, the first which is visible and the second which isn't, from getting into the nose and mouth
Wearing a face mask decreases the risk of getting the virus by 65% and social distancing lowers the risk by 90%

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8503445/Wearing-face-mask-decreases-risk-infected-coronavirus-risk-65.html


This is something that everyone should have access to reading. It's just so sad that the message has been lost in other agendas in the States and in many other places too.

I see more make here all of the time, but on a recent trip on the train, it still wasn't 100%.





obvert -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 6:37:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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ORIGINAL: Dante Fierro

Studies Report Rapid Loss of COVID-19 Antibodies
The results, while preliminary, suggest that survivors of SARS-CoV-2 infection may be susceptible to reinfection within weeks or months.

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/studies-report-rapid-loss-of-covid-19-antibodies-67650


But I reported earlier that the memory B cells may rapidly cause the antibodies to be produced. No need for the antibodies if there is no infection.


There have also been studies that some of the cases that seem to be second infection may be actually that the virus has never left the infected person, but was hidden in a reservoir in an organ somewhere. This is a behaviour that is used by at least one other virus, the herpes simplex virus.

Because this is not a fast evolving coronavirus, and it's thought a vaccine would protect for up to a year, I suspect that the body is using multiple methods for protection, but that for at least a year, the person would have immunity until a stain evolved enough to be different. This is an opinion, but based on some reading around the subject earlier that I'd have to go and find links for again.




sPzAbt653 -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 10:20:52 AM)

As Texas morgues fill up, refrigerator trucks are on the way in several counties

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/as-texas-morgues-fill-up-refrigerator-trucks-are-on-the-way-in-several-counties/287-de13b588-e5e4-4541-bdb4-6e7f0d44dcb4

Texas does not publicly report probable coronavirus deaths, which means patients who have died without testing positive for COVID-19 could go uncounted. More Houston residents are also dying at home before they can make it to a hospital. That means the death toll is likely higher than the state’s official count.




sPzAbt653 -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 10:47:26 AM)

Florida Reports 15,300 New Virus Cases, a Record for U.S. States

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-12/florida-s-record-rise-in-virus-cases-puts-focus-on-icu-capacity

Intensive-care unit capacity is the biggest concern and “it won’t be long” until hospitals in the Miami area reach capacity.




sPzAbt653 -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 10:54:45 AM)

Ocean City bars close temporarily after employees test positive for COVID-19

July 12th 2020
https://wjla.com/news/coronavirus/ocean-city-bars-close-temporarily-after-employees-test-positive-for-covid

Ocean City began reopening the area in May for visitors coming to the area ahead of the Fourth of July weekend after months-long closures due to the pandemic.




BBfanboy -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 12:09:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dante Fierro

Funny how often COVID-19 gets steered into a political argument. As if people here have an agenda whether they want to admit to it or not. And who gets left out, all the ordinary working Americans who have to deal with this crisis on a first hand basis.

I think this is rooted in the psychological "need" to be proven correct in one's beliefs (because security comes from being able to project what will happen next). When our beliefs start to dismiss objective data, we create a "faith", and that is very hard to abandon. Doing so would mean admitting we were wrong about a long list of things that we constructed/incorporated as part of the faith.

My own faith seems to be that skeptics, who demand objective evidence about new info, are more flexible in creating/abandoning various models of what is happening. I freely admit to being wrong about a great many things during my lifetime and I am the better for changing my mind. But like all of us, I am a (piece of?) work in progress!




BBfanboy -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 12:11:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Oh no, Hamsters on a plane!

Putting hamsters on an a plane could prove whether the coronavirus can be spread through airborne transmission, infectious disease expert says

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8503447/Putting-hamsters-plane-prove-virus-spread-air.html

[:D] A Hollywood movie can't be far behind! Perhaps they will have to bring in some snakes to save the plane from the wire-chewing hamsters! [X(]




RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 12:54:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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ORIGINAL: Dante Fierro

Funny how often COVID-19 gets steered into a political argument. As if people here have an agenda whether they want to admit to it or not. And who gets left out, all the ordinary working Americans who have to deal with this crisis on a first hand basis.

I think this is rooted in the psychological "need" to be proven correct in one's beliefs (because security comes from being able to project what will happen next). When our beliefs start to dismiss objective data, we create a "faith", and that is very hard to abandon. Doing so would mean admitting we were wrong about a long list of things that we constructed/incorporated as part of the faith.

My own faith seems to be that skeptics, who demand objective evidence about new info, are more flexible in creating/abandoning various models of what is happening. I freely admit to being wrong about a great many things during my lifetime and I am the better for changing my mind. But like all of us, I am a (piece of?) work in progress!


When an individual attacks the messenger instead of the message, I was taught that they don't like the message but are unable to refute it. Instead, they made ad hominem attacks. Some of these people also tend not to answer questions. Some of them also want proof of everything that you post with links provided to them, but when the links are posted they never respond.




durnedwolf -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 2:40:24 PM)

I need to build me one of these for the next time we have to shelter in place...



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RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 3:11:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: durnedwolf

I need to build me one of these for the next time we have to shelter in place...
[image]local://upfiles/16754/64439D92FF1A465E9327AECD1D047A28.jpg[/image]


There are some problems with that one. No facilities for waste disposal being one!




durnedwolf -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 3:27:33 PM)


Look at the time on the atomic clock...

When the Atomic Clock strikes 2:30...




Bo Rearguard -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 3:45:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


There are some problems with that one. No facilities for waste disposal being one!


Two bunks for five people is what strikes me. Plus with the EMP effect there can't be a whole lot of Howdy Doody to watch on the TV.




RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 3:58:55 PM)

That reminds me of a Y2K shelter. Lots of canned food, only an electric opener, but no electricity.




fcooke -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 4:17:35 PM)

Y2k was fun....we fixed a bunch of code but because very few things broke it was a hoax as far as reporting went.. So much for getting the job done. I did get to watch fireworks from the office over the Thames as we waited for things to go in a bad way at the turn of the century, so that was cool.




RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 5:21:08 PM)

Buckeye Institute sues Ohio and city of Columbus over income taxes during coronavirus lockdown

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A think tank is suing the state of Ohio and the city of Columbus, saying a state law allowing the city to collect income taxes from employees required to work from their homes outside the municipality amid the COVID-19 pandemic is unconstitutional.

The Buckeye Institute and three of its employees – Rea S. Hederman Jr., Greg R. Lawson and Joe Nichols – filed the lawsuit last week in Franklin County Common Pleas Court.

The Buckeye Institute, which required its employees to work from home to comply with a state order mandating nonessential businesses close, is challenging a provision included in House Bill 197. The legislation “deemed” for tax purposes the work that employees did at home “to have been performed” at their primary office. . . .


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/buckeye-institute-sues-ohio-and-city-of-columbus-over-income-taxes-during-coronavirus-lockdown

There is more to the article. But if anyone works where the local governments have an income tax, it is worth reading and following.




RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 5:25:07 PM)

10 Deadliest Pandemics In History Were Much Worse Than Coronavirus So Far
COVID-19 has us all thinking about public health, but looking back, there have been many pandemics before, and we persist in spite of them.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/18/10-deadliest-pandemics-in-history-were-much-worse-than-coronavirus-so-far/




RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 5:56:35 PM)

Six weeks old. [:(]

Texas city lists newborn's death as COVID-19-related

https://www.foxnews.com/health/texas-city-newborn-death-coronavirus-related




RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 5:59:11 PM)

Kill them fleas, the deadliest plague known to man:

Squirrel tests positive for plague in Colorado
Plague can be treated with antibiotics upon early diagnosis.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/squirrel-tests-positive-for-plague-in-colorado

Protect the cats as well.




RangerJoe -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/13/2020 6:00:23 PM)

Interim Clinical Guidance for Management of Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/clinical-guidance-management-patients.html




Dante Fierro -> RE: OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version (7/14/2020 5:16:13 AM)

Immunity to COVID-19 could be lost in months: UK study suggests

https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/07/13/629542/COVID-19-immunity-antibody-UK-China-




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