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jesperpehrson -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/8/2020 7:29:09 PM)

Turn 3. Allies #6. Continued.

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Rebase:
USSR moves in or towards Manchuria.

New weatherroll is a 8.
Sending turn.



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/9/2020 5:50:01 PM)

Jan/Feb '40
Impulse #7 (Axis)

Japan forces closure if Burma Road. US reacts negatively and one US entry chit is drawn. (5 rolled)

Germany DOW Denmark. US reacts negatively and one US entry chit is drawn. (3 rolled)

With what MP will Denmark align? And how will the Danish forces be placed?

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jesperpehrson -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/9/2020 8:51:17 PM)

Yes, align to CW.
Place as many convoys as possible in Torshavn, i think it should be 5. The rest in in Fredrikshavn please.



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/10/2020 7:32:38 PM)

Jan/Feb '40
Impulse #7 (Axis)

One FTR2, and LND3, is lend leased from Germany to Italy.

Land: Germany, Japan, Italy
Combined:
Naval:

Port Strike:
Germany:
LND3 (47,39) -> Frederikshavn

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Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/10/2020 7:42:37 PM)

Germany use 6 surprise points to increase the damage done, and use the remaining 3 points to select a target for the second damage. (Allies rolled 6 on the surprise roll)

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Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/10/2020 7:46:59 PM)

Disappointing result from the port strike. Just one sunk CP.

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Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/11/2020 5:41:35 PM)

Jan/Feb '40
Impulse #7 (Axis)

No strategic bombing. No Ground Strikes. No rail movement.

Land Moves:

Germany:
One INF move to Frederikshavn and overrun the two Danish CA based there.



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/11/2020 5:48:02 PM)

Both cruisers escape the port before the German can attack them. (6, and 8 rolled)

Is Plymouth good enough safe haven for the ships, or do you prefer them in another port?

Edit: Continued onwards with the game. Can always go back and change if the Danish ships were badly placed.



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/12/2020 7:26:14 AM)

Jan/Feb '40
Impulse #7 (Axis)

Land Movement Continued:

Germany:
3rd inafantry division march into Copenhagen in order to protect it from Allied aggression.
Panzer Army von Rundstedt concentrate on the French forces just west of Paris.
Army Group von Bock advance further westwards, and southwards, into France.

Italy:
5-4 MTN 58, 32 -> Lyons
5-3 MIL Turin -> Lyons
5-4 MOT 60 ,32 -> 62, 31
Balbo + 2-3 A-A 62, 31 -> 63, 30
5-5 MECH 62, 33 -> 62 ,32
4-3 MIL 62, 33 -> 63, 33
4-3 INF 62, 34 -> 63, 33
1-3 INF Div Ajaccio -> 67, 34
3-3 INF Tirana -> 69, 45
Supply 103, 60 -> Khartoum
4-3 INF 107, 69 -> 108, 69

Japan:
MIL 63,155->61,155
TER 61,155->61,156
TER 62,157->63,158
MOT Div 70,140->72,137
INF Tientsin->73,144
WAR 71,142->73,143
HQI 73,144->Tsinan
MIL Suchow->75,144
GAR Kaifeng->75,143
TER 78,144->Kaifeng
ART 85,143->86,142
HQI 85,144->83,145
WAR Wuhan->83,154
INF Nanchang->84,146
INF 5-4 85,145->84,147
INF 8-3 85,145->84,146
ART 85,145->84,146
INF Div 82,137->80,137
MAR 84,147->83,147 by hex 84,148
MOT 74,143->73,143
INF 88,140->Kweilin
MAR DIV 90,139-> Pakhoi
MAR DIV 90,140-> 90,138
HQI 90,140->89,138
GAR 91,140->91,139
AA 91,140->Canton

Air transport:
Italy:
LND3, in Turin, fly to Lyons and embark the MTN, then return to La Spezia with its cargo.

Land Combat:
Germany attack the French forces west of Paris.
Japan attack the Chinese militia west of Tsinan, and the Chinese cavalry in the Hangchow region.

One Japanese naval bomber provides 2 points in ground support for the attack on the cavalry.

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Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/12/2020 7:30:03 AM)

The German attack on the French is automatic.

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Picture from Jan/Feb '40 Impulse #7 (Axis) - Land Combat



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/12/2020 7:36:55 AM)

Japan begins with the Northern attack, on the militia.

With no retreat path available, I am assuming that China will select assault.

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Picture from Jan/Feb '40 Impulse #7 (Axis) - Land Combat



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/12/2020 7:42:10 AM)

The first assault goes well for Japan.

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Picture from Jan/Feb '40 Impulse #7 (Axis) - Land Combat



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/12/2020 7:45:10 AM)

No retreat path in the second Japanese attack either. So I am going with assault here as well. Can always be changed later if I was in error.



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/12/2020 7:48:37 AM)

The second Japanese assault is good as well.

[image]local://upfiles/29130/C03F3C619BAC444CAAF0DDF42D474547.jpg[/image]
Picture from Jan/Feb '40 Impulse #7 (Axis) - Land Combat



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/12/2020 8:01:59 AM)

Air Rebase:

Japan:
Lnd2 62,153 -> Wonsan
FTR2 Changchun->68,156(NE Wonsan)

Germany:
ATR3 (55,31) -> La Spezia

No reorganization.



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/12/2020 8:05:09 AM)

Turn ended on a die roll of 1. (1 needed to end)



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/12/2020 8:12:25 AM)

A second partisan appears in India.

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Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/12/2020 3:44:08 PM)

Losses for Jan/Feb '40.

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Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/13/2020 6:55:47 PM)

Axis end of turn:

Pact Markers:
Germany add both to the offensive pool. Transfer one marker from the defensive pool to the offensive pool.

Preliminary planning:
Germany - 26 production points - 17 BPs. Save 1 oil in Bratislava.
Italy - 9 production points - 7 BPs. Save 1 oil Turin.
Japan Send all traded oil to production. - 17 production points - 16 BPs. Might need to check resources convoy routes, and that no resource goes from the mainland to a mainland factory via a convoy route. I had to change that resource twice. First time it just went idle...

Stay at sea:
The following units stay at sea.

Germany:
Baltic Sea: 2 x CPs.

Italy:
Italian Coast: CP
Western Mediterranean Sea: SUB

Japan:
Sea of Japan: CP
Japanese Coast: 5 x CP; 3 x CA in 1-box; CV + BB + CA in 4-box
China Sea: 6 x CP; 2 x CA in 1-box; BB + 2 x CA in 3-box
South China Sea: 3 x CP; CV + 2 x BB + 2 x CA in 1-box

Return to Base:

Germany:
-

Italy:
Bay of Biscay: NAV2 -> 63, 30
CSV: SUB -> La Spezia
CVB: SUB -> La Spezia
Italian Coast: 2 x CA -> La Spezia

Japan:
China Sea: TRS + AMPH + 2 x BB -> Fukuoka
South China Sea: BB -> Canton

Use Oil:

Germany:
All units except FTR2 (Bf 109E-4) in hex 55,30 are reorganized for 1 oil (1.4). Use 1 saved oil in Prague.

Italy:
All units are reorganized for 1 oil (1.4). Use one oil in Venice.

Japan:
All units are reorganized for 1 oil (0.9). Use 1 oil in Canton.

Breakdown:
Germany:
7-3 INF (Paris) -> 2-3 INF Div + 2-5 MOT Div

Prod plan Final:
Germany - No changes needed - 17 BPs
Italy - No changes needed - 7 BPs
Japan - No changes should be needed - 16 BPs - For me the Japanese convoy routes messed up and Hainan went idle. The culprit seems to be a mainland resource going to Canton using up one CP. Changing it to go to factory in Japan just made it idle. Changing it again to another factory in Japan worked.

Production:
Germany (17):
2 x INF
MECH
FTR2
2 x LND2

Italy (7):
Scrap FTR2 (CR.32bis)
TERR
FTR2
Pilot
SUB 2nd

Japan (16):
TERR
GARR
FTR2
Pilot
Synth Oil

Germany creates Vichy France.

Move German units:
MOT -> 59,26
INF (61,27) -> 59,26
INF -> 57,30

Move Italian units:
5-3 MIL -> 58, 31
Balbo + 2-3 A-A + 4-5 MOT -> 62, 33
5-5 MECH + 5-4 MOT -> Turin
NAV2 -> 63,33

Move the French land units in France to closest hex in Vichy.

Move French ships, if possible, to Marseilles. Otherwise, if possible, to closest Vichy port.

Add the NAV3.

Remove units in Vichy: See picture.

Remove TERR in Algeria.

Factory destruction:
Germany destroy 4 blue factories - Nantes, Rouen, 2 x Paris.
Italy destroy blue factory in Lille

Reinforcements:

Germany:
NAV3 -> Bremen
3 x LND2 (Ju 87B + 2 x Hs 123) -> Königsberg
CA -> Kiel
PARA -> Munich
Remove FTR2 in Saarbrucken

Italy:
NAV2 -> Palermo
BB -> La Spezia

Japan:
MECH -> Fukuoka
TERR -> Kirin

Vichy France:
CP -> Marseilles

Voluntary Resource Lending:
Modified; Germany -> Italy: 5 resources, (1 oil, minimum)

Axis goes first if we win the initiative. No re-roll.

Note for Axis:
Italy: 3 oil total - 1 oil in Milan, 1 oil in Turin, and 1 in Rome.
Japan: 3 oil total - 1 in Tokyo, and 2 oil in Osaka.
Germany: 4 oil total - 2 oil in Berlin, 1 oil in Prague, and 1 oil in Bratislava.



Zeijlon -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/24/2020 8:33:54 PM)

End of turn J/F 1940

see mail disc..

Pact Markers:
Germany add both to the offensive pool. Transfer one marker from the defensive pool to the offensive pool.
Russia: 1 chit defensive

US-entry
1 chit towards Germany

US Options;
US Landbased air escorts (GE/IT tension)
Embargo Strategic Materials (Jap tension)

Preliminary planning:
Germany - 26 production points - 17 BPs. Save 1 oil in Bratislava.
Italy - 9 production points - 7 BPs. Save 1 oil Turin.
Japan Send all traded oil to production. - 17 production points - 16 BPs. Might need to check resources convoy routes, and that no resource goes from the mainland to a mainland factory via a convoy route. I had to change that resource twice. First time it just went idle...
EDit didnt manage to sort it out, file to AXIS
China 5 BPs
CW 19bps ( 4 oil saved)
France 3 BPs (1 oil saved)
US BPs 10 (1 oil sved)
USSR 14bps

Stay at sea:
The following units stay at sea.

Germany:
Baltic Sea: 2 x CPs.

Italy:
Italian Coast: CP
Western Mediterranean Sea: SUB

Japan:
Sea of Japan: CP
Japanese Coy at sea:ast: 5 x CP; 3 x CA in 1-box; CV + BB + CA in 4-box
EDIT send home 1 cp Japanese Coast due to Embargo
China Sea: 6 x CP; 2 x CA in 1-box; BB + 2 x CA in 3-box
South China Sea: 3 x CP; CV + 2 x BB + 2 x CA in 1-box
EDIT only 1 BB available

CW
North atlantic
3 Ca 0 Box
CSV
3 Ca 0 Box

US
-
USSR
Black sea
1 BB


Return to Base:

Germany:
-

Italy:
Bay of Biscay: NAV2 -> 63, 30
CSV: SUB -> La Spezia
CVB: SUB -> La Spezia
Italian Coast: 2 x CA -> La Spezia

Japan:
China Sea: TRS + AMPH + 2 x BB -> Fukuoka
South China Sea: BB -> Canton

CW
Bay of Biscay and North Sea
All to Liverpool
East Med
1 CA to Aden
CSV
Nav ->Gibraltar
West med
All Giberaltar
G o Guines
Trs to Dar es Salaam

US
West Coast
Trs to Honolulu

Russia
-

Use Oil:
Russia:
Reorg all (0 oil)

Germany:
All units except FTR2 (Bf 109E-4) in hex 55,30 are reorganized for 1 oil (1.4). Use 1 saved oil in Prague.

Italy:
All units are reorganized for 1 oil (1.4). Use one oil in Venice.

Japan:
All units are reorganized for 1 oil (0.9). Use 1 oil in Canton.

China
No reorg

CW
Re-org all except 1 BB liverpool (4 oil)

France
Re-org as much as possible main France


Breakdown:
Germany:
7-3 INF (Paris) -> 2-3 INF Div + 2-5 MOT Div



Prod plan Final:
Germany - No changes needed - 17 BPs
Italy - No changes needed - 7 BPs
Japan - No changes should be needed - 16 BPs - For me the Japanese convoy routes messed up and Hainan went idle. The culprit seems to be a mainland resource going to Canton using up one CP. Changing it to go to factory in Japan just made it idle. Changing it again to another factory in Japan worked.
EDIT file back
CW 19bps ( 3 oil saved, 1 oil traded to China, Burma)
France 3 BPs (1 oil)
US BPs 10 (1 oil)
USSR 14bps

Scrap;
France
2 FTR, 1 Inf, 1 Art

Production:

China
1 Mil
1 Inf

CW
3 CP
2 Pil
2 FTR2
1 Inf HQ
1 Inf

France
1 Inf


US
1 CVP 0
1 Pil
1 Amph
2 CVP1
1 Sub (first)
1 BB (first)

Russia
2 Inf
1 Mtn Div
1 Arm

Germany (17):
2 x INF
MECH
FTR2
2 x LND2

Italy (7):
Scrap FTR2 (CR.32bis)
TERR
FTR2
Pilot
SUB 2nd

Japan (16):
TERR
GARR
FTR2
Pilot
Synth Oil

Germany creates Vichy France.

Move German units:
MOT -> 59,26
INF (61,27) -> 59,26
INF -> 57,30

Move Italian units:
5-3 MIL -> 58, 31
Balbo + 2-3 A-A + 4-5 MOT -> 62, 33
5-5 MECH + 5-4 MOT -> Turin
NAV2 -> 63,33

Move the French land units in France to closest hex in Vichy.

Move French ships, if possible, to Marseilles. Otherwise, if possible, to closest Vichy port.

Add the NAV3.

Remove units in Vichy: See picture.

Remove TERR in Algeria.

Factory destruction:
Germany destroy 4 blue factories - Nantes, Rouen, 2 x Paris.
Italy destroy blue factory in Lille

Reinforcements:

China
1 Mil
1 Gar Nanning

CW
Assign
2 pil to 2 NAVs (Swordfish, both goes to Belfast
1 CA Liverpool
1 INF Agra
1 CP Liverpool

France
1 CP Gabon
All land in Toulose

US
1 CV San Diego
1 Inf San Diego
1 CP Norfolk

USSR
1 Inf Minsk
1 Ski div Minsk
1 Inf Vitebsk

China
1 Inf Sian
1 Cav div Lan Chao


Germany:
NAV3 -> Bremen
3 x LND2 (Ju 87B + 2 x Hs 123) -> Königsberg
CA -> Kiel
PARA -> Munich
Remove FTR2 in Saarbrucken

Italy:
NAV2 -> Palermo
BB -> La Spezia

Japan:
MECH -> Fukuoka
TERR -> Kirin

Vichy France:
CP -> Marseilles

Voluntary Resource Lending:
Modified; Germany -> Italy: 5 resources, (1 oil, minimum)

CW
Modify (1 oil, minimum) to China

Axis goes first if we win the initiative. No re-roll.
Allies goes first if we win the initiative. No re-rol

Note for Axis:
Italy: 3 oil total - 1 oil in Milan, 1 oil in Turin, and 1 in Rome.
Japan: 3 oil total - 1 in Tokyo, and 2 oil in Osaka.
Germany: 4 oil total - 2 oil in Berlin, 1 oil in Prague, and 1 oil in Bratislava



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/25/2020 6:12:19 PM)

Germany creates Vichy France. US reacts negatively and 2 US entry chits are drawn (18 rolled).



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Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/25/2020 6:13:14 PM)

Which will be the new French Home Country?

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Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/25/2020 6:20:47 PM)

[&:]

I think there might be a bug in what Vichy administrative group some French minor belongs. I thought that French Somaliland belonged to Asian Minor Countries and Territories so it should have become a Vichy territory, but here it was rolled as Free France. It seems to me that none of the territories rolled Free French is a better fit.

Same objection to Belgian Congo. Although this time I thought it belonged to 'Other minor countries and territories'.




jesperpehrson -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/25/2020 8:34:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

[&:]

I think there might be a bug in what Vichy administrative group some French minor belongs. I thought that French Somaliland belonged to Asian Minor Countries and Territories so it should have become a Vichy territory, but here it was rolled as Free France. It seems to me that none of the territories rolled Free French is a better fit.

Same objection to Belgian Congo. Although this time I thought it belonged to 'Other minor countries and territories'.




Are you sure FSL is part of Asian minors? I thought it was part of the Equatorial Africa as it is usually Free French but I might be way of base. It is not in Asia after all.



Zeijlon -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/25/2020 8:50:43 PM)

Anything that can be fixed?



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/25/2020 9:16:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jesperpehrson


quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

[&:]

I think there might be a bug in what Vichy administrative group some French minor belongs. I thought that French Somaliland belonged to Asian Minor Countries and Territories so it should have become a Vichy territory, but here it was rolled as Free France. It seems to me that none of the territories rolled Free French is a better fit.

Same objection to Belgian Congo. Although this time I thought it belonged to 'Other minor countries and territories'.




Are you sure FSL is part of Asian minors? I thought it was part of the Equatorial Africa as it is usually Free French but I might be way of base. It is not in Asia after all.


No. I wasn't sure. Now I am after checking the rules, FAQ, and forum. Apparently the FSL belongs to the other minor category.

xxx

Cut from FAQ:
Q17.2-7 I am playing with the African map. What
happens to French somaliland if it is still
French controlled when Vichy is declared?
A: You roll for it on the "All other territories &
minors" row of the Free-French chart (see
WiF 17.2). Date 13/01/2009

xxx

The following was found on the forum: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=982383&mpage=10&key=�

Free-French Chart* (Administration group: Die (% chance to become Free French))
1) Morocco (Capital: Rabat), Algeria (Capital: Algiers), and Tunisia (Capital: Tunis): 10 (10%)

2) French West Africa: 9–10 (20%)
French Guinea (Capital: Konakri), French Sudan (Capital: Bamako), Ivory Coast (Capital: Bingerville), Niger Colony (Capital: Niamey), Senegal (Capital: Dakar), Togo & Dahomey (Capital: Togo), Upper Volta (Capital: Oungadougou), and Mauretania (Capital: St. Louis)

3) Syria (Capital: Damascus): 9–10 (20%)

4) French Indo-China (Capital: Hanoi): 9–10 (20%)

5) Madagascar (Capital: Antanarivo): 8–10 (30%)

6) All Asian map minors & territories: 7–10 (40%)
Comoros Islands and Reunion Islands

7) French Equatorial Africa: 3–10 (80%)
Chad (Capital: Fort Lamy), Ubangi-Sharie (Capital: Bangui), Cameroons (Capital: Younde), Gabon (Capital: Libreville), Middle Congo (Capital: Brazzaville).

8) All Pacific map minors & territories: 2–10 (90%)
New Caledonia (territory) and all French Pacific islands

9) All other territories & minors: 9–10 (20%)
French Somaliland (Capital: Jibuti), French Guyana (Capital: Cayenne) (South America map) and all French islands on the Americas map

So the chart looks like this.

Note: Reunion Islands (FR) are east of Madagascar so I added them to the Asian map Administration group.



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/25/2020 9:19:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Zeijlon

Anything that can be fixed?

No idea how. I am open for suggestions.



Zeijlon -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/26/2020 7:13:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

Which will be the new French Home Country?

[image]local://upfiles/29130/EE9EAA7209174EAF8DC07A1E6E113FEE.jpg[/image]


The French re-establish in Madagascar.



Centuur -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/26/2020 7:14:45 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

quote:

ORIGINAL: Zeijlon

Anything that can be fixed?

No idea how. I am open for suggestions.


If you use debug tools, one can change the control of the country to Vichy. And I think that a bug report needs to be done, regarding this one, since it's a new bug.



Orm -> RE: The final countdown - En svensk uppgörelse (9/28/2020 10:46:32 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm

Which will be the new French Home Country?

[image]local://upfiles/29130/EE9EAA7209174EAF8DC07A1E6E113FEE.jpg[/image]

The new Free French Home Country is French Somaliland.




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