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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 69 (1/10/2021 5:24:49 PM)

End of turn. The Soviet Army chased the fleeing German Panzer divisions, morale is very high.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 69 (1/10/2021 5:27:21 PM)

Start of turn, 3 Soviet divisions are isolated near Tula.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 69 (1/10/2021 5:30:12 PM)

The 3 Soviet divisions successfully escape after the Soviet Army counter-attacks. End of turn.

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Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet Turn 67 (1/10/2021 5:33:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BrianG

That Penza corner is a tough area to crack.

even in my other Russian disasters, the Russians seems to be able to hold Penza.

The Germans need to retreat and get out of dodge.


Agreed, which is what the Germans did. At Penza the Axis have very long supply lines.



Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet Turn 66 (1/10/2021 5:39:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sammy5IsAlive


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ORIGINAL: chaos45

game should be a Soviet show from here on out....even if he probably will get the tank ball out....by the time it is re-supplied its almost mud...and 1943 changes the CV odds in soviets favor enough to end German adventures.


I'd be interested to see where the rail lines are at - the Soviets may well have a big advantage in terms of interior lines and getting troops to the 'neck' of the pocket. Plus they'll have the last non-mud turn. With 7+ million Soviets in the field and no real threats elsewhere to pin that strength down I could easily see the majority of that panzerball getting wiped out

To be honest flicking back through the AAR and the respective OOBs the Germans have been relying on snookers since the end of blizzard.

That's not to downplay the good stuff Grognard has done since that point in terms of avoiding those traps and waiting patiently for the right moment to go on the offensive - it's been very nicely played IMO.


I included a screenshot of the rail lines on Soviet Turn 71, showing as you suggested that at Penza the Soviets have a big advantage with interior rail lines. With the onset of mud on Turn 70, the Axis retreated their Panzerball.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 70 (1/15/2021 6:32:40 AM)

The Mud season starts beginning with Turn 70. All quiet on the Eastern Front Turn 70.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 73 (1/15/2021 6:41:25 AM)

Turns 71 and 72 were quiet mud turns.

Turn 73 was the last mud turn. Due to the random weather option all weather zones were mud except for the North Soviet Zone which was blizzard. Turn 73 in the Tula sector.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 73 (1/15/2021 6:44:44 AM)

On turn 73, before the start of the snow turns, the German Army numbered 3.45 million troops and the Soviet Army numbered 7.51 million troops

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 74 (1/15/2021 6:52:35 AM)

Snow in all weather zones. The Axis army attacked all along the front, but Soviet Air Reconnaissance couldn't determine where the majority of the German Panzer and Motorized Divisions were. Situation end of turn 74.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 75 (1/15/2021 6:58:53 AM)

Turn 75, Snow in all weather zones.

Massed columns of German Panzer and Motorized units suddenly appeared out of the snow storm, creating a breakthrough near Ryazan. Situation start of the turn.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 75 (1/15/2021 7:02:44 AM)

Stavka sent all available reserves to the area to try to contain the Axis breakthrough, situation end of turn.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 75 (1/15/2021 7:08:52 AM)

Now that Stavka knows where the majority of the German Panzer and Motorized divisions are, the Soviet Army's winter counter-offensive can begin near Saratov. Situation end of turn.

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CapAndGown -> RE: Soviet Turn 75 (1/18/2021 5:11:16 AM)

Could you please report on your manpower pool, and your weekly manpower production? You seem to have lost quite a few manpower centers.



mmoaorrke -> RE: Soviet Turn 75 (1/18/2021 2:30:17 PM)

Also, could you show your Logistics Phase Event Log, specifically the Production and Resource Status parts and also the bottom of the Production Screen that shows production level and reserved rail?



Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet Turn 75 (1/18/2021 4:32:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CapAndGown

Could you please report on your manpower pool, and your weekly manpower production? You seem to have lost quite a few manpower centers.


I am presently completing Turn 79.

I have enclosed a screenshot of the manpower pool on Turn 79.

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Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet Turn 75 (1/18/2021 4:35:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CapAndGown

Could you please report on your manpower pool, and your weekly manpower production? You seem to have lost quite a few manpower centers.



And a screen shot on Turn 79 of the weekly manpower production

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Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet Turn 75 (1/18/2021 4:45:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mmoaorrke

Also, could you show your Logistics Phase Event Log, specifically the Production and Resource Status parts and also the bottom of the Production Screen that shows production level and reserved rail?


I think the Production Status is above, and I have enclosed the Resource Status from the Logistics Phase Event Log for Turn 79.
The production level and reserved rail are also above.

In this game all Soviet units have been placed at MAX TOE set to 100, and almost all the Soviet units TOE are between 80 and 95.

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Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet Turn 75 (1/18/2021 4:50:39 PM)

I have also enclosed a screenshot of the total ground loses as of Turn 79

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 76 (1/19/2021 4:40:58 PM)

An early blizzard turn in the North Soviet Zone with ice now at level 10. The rest of the weather zones are snow.

Situation at the beginning of the turn North of Ryazan, the German Panzer and Motorized divisions extend their breakthrough. Stavka is beginning to fear that the Axis is trying to cut off the supply lines to Moscow from the east, creating a massive war ending pocket.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 76 (1/19/2021 4:45:04 PM)

End of turn situation North of Ryazan. The Soviet Army tries to contain the Axis breakthrough, while at the same time continuing the Soviet Winter Counter-Offensive between Penza and Stalingrad.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 76 (1/19/2021 4:49:55 PM)

Soviet Forces attack North and South of Penza, attempting to surround the German Units in Penza. End of turn situation at Penza.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 76 (1/19/2021 4:55:34 PM)

Start of turn West of Saratov, where the Soviet Winter Counter-Offensive will continue all along the front. With the ice at level 10, rivers are no longer a barrier to the Soviet advance.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 76 (1/19/2021 4:58:37 PM)

Situation end of turn West of Saratov, the counter-offensive is succeeding in pushing back the Axis forces all along the front.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 76 (1/19/2021 5:02:06 PM)

West of Stalingrad, The Soviet Army successfully attacks across the Don. End of turn situation.

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chaos45 -> RE: Soviet Turn 76 (1/19/2021 10:12:35 PM)

IDK to me looks like a panzer drive to nowhere, alot of wasted effort...as he needs a prong to hook up with. As well he has no rail line in the advance and its winter....its a doomed wasted effort I think.



Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 77 (1/20/2021 12:25:20 AM)

Start of Turn, the German Panzer and Motorized Divisions continue to expand their breakthrough North of Ryazan, encircling 8 Soviet Divisions.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 77 (1/20/2021 12:28:43 AM)

The pocket was opened and the encircled Soviet Divisions retreat North in an attempt to avoid another encirclement next turn. Situation end of turn.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 77 (1/20/2021 12:32:08 AM)

The Soviet Army continues its attacks North, and South of Penza in an attempt to encircle the German units in Penza. End of turn.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 77 (1/20/2021 12:34:43 AM)

The Soviet Counter-Offensive continues West of Saratov. End of turn.

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Dweomer -> RE: Soviet Turn 76 (1/21/2021 8:27:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chaos45
IDK to me looks like a panzer drive to nowhere, alot of wasted effort...as he needs a prong to hook up with. As well he has no rail line in the advance and its winter....its a doomed wasted effort I think.


The Panzer Drive seems to have already stopped as the tip of the spear made little progress last turn. He is now sidetracking himself making small/medium encirclements in order to broaden the base of the penetration.
The Soviets also do not really believe in the seriousness of the offensive since the Soviet forces in the sector are mostly regulars (few Guards, almost no corps level units), as almost all elite units are in the Penza-Saratov-Stalingrad area.

Very soon the Penza-Saratov-Stalingrad broad front offensive will start breaking through unless Germany massively reinforces the sector, and that will further weaken or even halt the Panzer Drive.



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