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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 93 (2/21/2021 6:08:45 PM)

End of turn situation. This turn 2 Panzer Divisions and 1 Motorized Division are encircled from the Eastern Pincer.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 93 (2/21/2021 6:10:43 PM)

The Soviet Counter-Offensive continues West of Tambov.

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Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet Turn 93 (2/21/2021 6:13:57 PM)

And the Soviet Offensive continues near Voronezh

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Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet Turn 93 (2/21/2021 6:21:30 PM)

The Soviet Army continues its successful offensive between Rostov and Stalingrad. Stavka is making plans to continue its offensive in the spring and summer of 1943 all along the frontline against Army Group Center and Army Group South.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 93 (2/21/2021 6:25:26 PM)

Heavy losses are being sustained by both sides each turn.

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Dweomer -> RE: Soviet Turn 93 (2/22/2021 8:11:15 AM)

If the next turn is mud, the German offensive (and with that the war) is over. Th eastern pincer seems burned out, and by the time the mud clears out, there will be a solid line of infantry corps in front of the western pincer.

He also has to solve the southern problem, as the last turn showed that the Axis Allies cannot hold the line by themselves. The 30 kilometre breakthrough southeast of Voroshilovgrad is a worrying example of what is to come. With some rest, refit and resupply the southern offensive is going to roll.

EDIT:
- When is the Spring 43 mud season likely to finish?
- Somewhere between "now" and July the SS Panzergrenadier divisions historically convert to Panzer divisions. Is this conversion done on the board, or do they need to withdraw for a while to refit?



Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet Turn 93 (2/23/2021 6:50:46 PM)

The Spring 43 mud season starts with Turn 94 and lasts 6 turns, although since we are playing random weather some weather zones could get less than 6 turns of mud.

If the Axis manages to capture Moscow it could still make for an interesting summer of 1943.

Not sure if the SS Panzergrenadier Divisions are withdrawn before changing to Panzer Divisions.




Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 94 (2/23/2021 6:54:00 PM)

Turn 94, mud in all weather zones.

Start of turn 94 in the Moscow area, 3 German mobile divisions are isolated.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 94 (2/23/2021 6:55:42 PM)

The two Panzer Divisions and 1 Motorized Division are attacked and surrender.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 94 (2/23/2021 6:58:19 PM)

And the eastern pincer is forced back to its starting point.

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chaos45 -> RE: Soviet Turn 94 (2/23/2021 11:32:11 PM)

His supply situation must be dire for 2 panzer divisions to surrender without fighting....as well for you to win 3x mud battles...its why you shouldnt drive panzer armies off into the middle of no-where...it works for awhile then breaksdown. 3x mobile divisions destroyed will end his ability to make the pocket...those divisions will be worthless for months not to mention take all his replacements for like 2-3 weeks.



Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 95 (2/28/2021 6:07:31 PM)

Turns 95, 96 and 97 were quiet mud turns in all Soviet Weather zones.



Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 98 (2/28/2021 6:11:33 PM)

Turn 98 was also a mud turn in all the Soviet Weather Zones. Air recon shows a worrisome build-up of German mobile divisions just Southeast of Moscow - units that had moved there from the eastern salient.

Situation in the Moscow area end of turn.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 99 (2/28/2021 6:21:10 PM)

Spring arrived early in the North Soviet weather zone, while the other two Soviet weather zones were mud.

The SS Panzer Corps changed its direction of attack, attacking South while the eastern pincer evacuated the salient and attacked with massed Panzer units northwards just east of Moscow. The two pincers almost met just east of Moscow which would have resulted in a very large pocket in the Moscow area. Massed German Panzer and Motorized units are always dangerous even in 1943 as they can attack on a very narrow front.

Situation start of turn 99 in the Moscow area.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 99 (2/28/2021 6:24:20 PM)

All the rail links to Moscow were cut off by the Panzer spearheads. Moscow is lost, time to save as many units as possible from being encircled.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 99 (2/28/2021 6:36:50 PM)

Situation in the Moscow area, end of turn.

A strong garrison was left in Moscow, but the rest of the Soviet units were retreated further east to avoid a large pocket from being formed. No point in losing over 40 Soviet Divisions in a Soviet equivalent to what happened to the German Sixth Army in Stalingrad. As almost all the German Panzer, PzGr and Motorized divisions are in the Moscow area it would have been very difficult to prevent a large pocket from being formed around Moscow.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 99 (2/28/2021 6:38:55 PM)

With the clear weather in the North Soviet Zone, the Soviet offensive continues west of Tambov.

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CapAndGown -> RE: Soviet Turn 99 (2/28/2021 10:10:07 PM)

what is your supply situation look like in the event log? what is your reserved rail capacity?



Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet Turn 99 (3/20/2021 7:55:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CapAndGown

what is your supply situation look like in the event log? what is your reserved rail capacity?



The following is a screenshot of the Soviet Production and Reserved Rail for Turn 100.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 100 (3/20/2021 7:57:21 PM)

And the Event Log Production for Soviet Turn 100

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 100 (3/20/2021 7:58:43 PM)

And the Resource Status for Soviet Turn 100

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 100 (3/20/2021 8:08:36 PM)

Situation At the end of Turn 100 in the Moscow Area.

The Soviet Garrison left behind in Moscow is completely surrounded. The garrison has been reassured by Stavka that the Red Air Force will keep them supplied while the Soviet Army prepares to launch a massive summer offensive in the area to break the encirclement. Surrender is not an option.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 100 (3/20/2021 8:10:57 PM)

Meanwhile the Soviet Offensive continues North of Rostov, where summer has arrived early and the weather is clear.

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CapAndGown -> RE: Soviet Turn 100 (3/20/2021 8:52:05 PM)

It looks like your units are being starved of supplies. I would recommend reducing reserved rail and turning off some factory production of vehicle/plane types where your stockpile is quite high. For instance, I am finding that T-34 production is a big draw on supply. You might want to evacuate a few of those factories in order to turn down production on them. IL-2s are likely another big draw and you likely have more than enough stockpiled to last a while. Armament factories could also be moved to reduce supply usage. You have more than 1 million armament points in reserve, more than enough to last a while.



Grognard1812 -> RE: Soviet Turn 100 (3/27/2021 8:59:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CapAndGown

It looks like your units are being starved of supplies. I would recommend reducing reserved rail and turning off some factory production of vehicle/plane types where your stockpile is quite high. For instance, I am finding that T-34 production is a big draw on supply. You might want to evacuate a few of those factories in order to turn down production on them. IL-2s are likely another big draw and you likely have more than enough stockpiled to last a while. Armament factories could also be moved to reduce supply usage. You have more than 1 million armament points in reserve, more than enough to last a while.


Agree. I reduced the reserved rail from 10% to 7% and moved some of the airplane factories (turn 104). Instead of moving armament factories might it be better to reduce the production level of armaments to say 75% from 100% (which can be quickly reversed if the need arises)?



Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 101 (3/27/2021 9:02:05 PM)

Start of turn 101 West of Yaroslavl. New Panzer attack supported by the SS Panzer Corps, but no breakthrough.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 101 (3/27/2021 9:03:37 PM)

The Moscow garrison is isolated, 60 miles from the nearest Soviet units.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 101 (3/27/2021 9:06:16 PM)

End of turn West of Yaroslavl, avoiding an encirclement.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 101 (3/27/2021 9:07:26 PM)

The Soviet offensive continues east of Tula.

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Grognard1812 -> Soviet Turn 102 (3/27/2021 9:09:28 PM)

Quiet turn in the Moscow area, as the weather is mud in the North Soviet Weather Zone on turn 102. End of turn.

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