spence -> RE: Destroyer Simulation Inbound (8/9/2020 4:12:33 PM)
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quote: ORIGINAL: wolfclan I'm not sure he had sonar, at least wiki says the ship got sonar in 1966. The article I read said his ship was the only ship in the convoy with HF/DF which was probably the reason the Convoy Commander was so concerned. As far as Raney's career, the Convoy Commander was RN and would not have much influence. By the time Raney got back to the east coast, the rescued had talked to the papers (a security violation) and had made him into a public hero. Overall, he was probably lucky--and we all know what is claimed that Napoleon said about lucky generals. quote: USCGC Bibb It had a version earlier but apparently not in 1944: quote: Sensors and processing systems: Radar: (1945) SK, SG-1; (1966) AN/SPS-29D, AN/SPA-52. Fire Control Radar: (1945) Mk-26; (1966) Mk-26 MOD 4 Sonar: (1945) QC series; (1966) SQS-11 Electronic warfare & decoys: HF/DF: (1943) https://military.wikia.org/wiki/USCGC_Bibb_(WPG-31) _____________________________ For some reason it seems none of the web sources have a listing of what type of sonar was installed on CGC Bibb or any of her sister ships but Bibb most certainly had some type of sonar before WW2 since she was rearmed in 1941 and transferred to the operational control of the Navy in Nov (if not before that-all remaining units of the USCG were transferred to the USN in Nov 1941). CGC Bibb is not credited with sinking any U-boats but 3 of her sister ships did sink U-boats. One is especially notable: CGC Spencer sank U-175 detecting it underwater and tracking and depth charging it right through the middle of Convoy HX-235 in April 43. With propellor noises from 50 odd other nearby ships it could not use a hydrophone to track the submarine (her only casualties were caused by friendly fire from those nearby ships). The CGC Spencer also depth charged and sank another U-boat: U-633. Sister ship CGC Ingham depth charged and sank U-626 apparently attacking it as a "doubtful" contact. The Treasury class 327' cutters displaced more than any of the pre-war destroyer classes and were more heavily armed than any other US ship escorting convoys in the North Atlantic until the advent of USN escort carriers, DDs and DEs in hunter-killer groups. Their principle foible was having only one engine room and one fire-room they were limited to 20 kt+/-.
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