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bcg -> The Italy decision made by Austria Hungary (8/21/2020 9:06:32 PM)

I am new to the WW1 game. Could someone give me the pros and cons on the decision to keep Italy out of the war. This is my 2nd game as the central powers, and both times I elected giving up those 2 cities to keep the Italian front clean. But both times I watched my morale fall to almost nothing, even though I defeated Serbia. How do I keep my morale up, if I give up those 2 cities? If I don't give up these 2 cities, how do I cover such a wide front for Austria Hungary?



Torplexed -> RE: The Italy decision made by Austria Hungary (8/21/2020 9:18:34 PM)

If you want to hold on to Trento and Trieste, you have to kind of plan on it from day one of the war. I know this is tough for an overstretched country like Austria-Hungary, but you have to work in maybe two corp in the production boxes to man this front. Or get Germany to donate one. It's going to be their front-line too if Italians work their way up to their backyard in Bavaria.

If I recall correctly you automatically get two army detachments when Italy declares war, which is better than nothing. The nice thing is the terrain is in your favor. Get a few units in the Alps and Italy isn't going far.



FOARP -> RE: The Italy decision made by Austria Hungary (8/21/2020 9:35:07 PM)

Playing against the AI? The secret is to quickly beat Serbia, just try to hold in Galicia, and prepare a rapid attack on Udine if Italy looks like they are going to join the war. Never talk the option of handing over Trento and Trieste as it basically smashes your morale and Italy end up joining the Entente in the end anyway. Here’s my AAR describing how I did it:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4789132



Platoonist -> RE: The Italy decision made by Austria Hungary (8/21/2020 9:41:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bcg

I am new to the WW1 game. Could someone give me the pros and cons on the decision to keep Italy out of the war. This is my 2nd game as the central powers, and both times I elected giving up those 2 cities to keep the Italian front clean. But both times I watched my morale fall to almost nothing, even though I defeated Serbia. How do I keep my morale up, if I give up those 2 cities? If I don't give up these 2 cities, how do I cover such a wide front for Austria Hungary?


I'm new to this game too. I seriously considered giving those Austrian cities up, but Austria-Hungary's morale level wasn't looking to good at the time, so I went with the war with Italy option. I wasn't terribly prepared, so I scrounged up some German detachments from the Eastern front that weren't doing anything too important at the time and operated them there along with the German marine unit (my only other reserve unit) I also had to scramble to find an HQ unit to support them. It worked though. Properly entrenched in alpine terrain, they held the line until better units could be built. I did lose the Austrian city of Trento since it's so close to the border. Next time I hope to be more prepared.

You also have to keep an eye on the Italian navy if you go with the war option. They like to prowl the Adriatic looking for lone warships at sea to gang up on. I usually keep the big surface units of the A-H navy in port to frustrate them.



Xsillione -> RE: The Italy decision made by Austria Hungary (8/23/2020 1:09:50 AM)

There are several reason why to choose this or that option, and that what makes this event the best in the entire game, this has the largest consequences and the most influence on the entire game out of all your choice (almost as much as france first or russia first or serbia first.)

Folding saves you the front, and the 200 mpp economy and 30 something units of the italian army, and most importantly the larger than the AH fleet of the italian navy. But you pay high price for it: large amount of NM, heavy temporary morale drop for your AH army, some income loss, and the Romanian entry boost, as well as an even larger temporary income loss, so the AH will be crippled for 6 month or so, and probably very vulnerable to russian overrun.

Going war with italy even gives you more NM for AH, and chance to get more NM from conquest, since many italian border cities are also morale boost for AH, but losing will have the reverse effect, so you need to defend you new front, and it will eat 4-6 units on normal versus the AI, and even more if you play on harder difficulties. If you want advance, you need even more troops, and maybe an art or two.

Don't forget, it is a CP front, so german troops can be sent too, probably even better, since they have more morale and better tech usually, so they can wipe the italian units and force france and the uk to send units to defend, weakening the western front.

Ideally you want to defeat Serbia before or at least around the italian entry, if you go against italy, so the serbian units can go to italy to continue the war (just don't forget greece.) And if the serbian wart goes really badly, you might want just fold and give up the territories, but be prepared for the romanian entry in that case.



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