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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 9:53:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Save Diego is moving forward.

I think I could save Ceylon, in the short term, but Japan could respond and bombard the heck out of me...so I think it is a losing gambit -- although it would certainly force Japan's hand which could be of value.

Trin will fall with the next attack unless I start to fly troops in...I think it is better to have a prison island than risk more defending it.

Instead we shall attempt to salvage Diego.

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I doubt DD Panther can provide any ASW protection while docked...


LCDR Balston is no slouch...the TF actually undocked to scare off the I boat. They still got a 900+ supply unloaded too.

ASW attack near Diego Garcia at 11,62

Japanese Ships
SS I-122

Allied Ships
DD Panther

SS I-122 is sighted by escort
DD Panther fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub



ny59giants -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 10:51:12 AM)

Command HQs - Have you moved No Pac, Central Pac, or So Pac over to Australia to give their combat bonus to those assaults of his two major bases? If not, I hope SW Pac and/or the Australian Command are prepping for them both.



Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 11:03:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Command HQs - Have you moved No Pac, Central Pac, or So Pac over to Australia to give their combat bonus to those assaults of his two major bases? If not, I hope SW Pac and/or the Australian Command are prepping for them both.


Plus HQc which are needed for the Command HQs to really do their job. In fact, I have found the HQc to be the most valuable in eliminating bad attack rolls even if the forces under them are not prepped for the base, but the HQc is.



Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 11:07:56 AM)

Moved close to 200 fighters to Brisbane, plus two squadrons of PT boats to protect the disabled heavy cruiser there...I am guessing the KB might have plans on them, if in fact this is the obligatory KB attack on Australia--which it should be.

With all the Japanese ground fighters present, it could be a real bloodbath, I have also dispatched another AA unit to Brisbane (the Dutch).

About six subs are vectoring in on KB launching positions, 3-4 of them Dutch boats. As a distraction looking for a big bombardment with one Cruiser and a dozen destroyers on Norfolk Island. Gotta give them Japanese something to think about.[;)]

Four more AA units arriving in New Zealand tomorrow with another 3-4 a few days behind.

Withdrew the Queen Elizabeth.

Also relocated the Dutch B25c squadron, and lost a plane. I would have preferred moving them by train, but they can fly to all my Australian holdings. Pity.

Flying out fragments from the two Commonwealth brigades defending Trin on Ceylon. They are pretty much shot, will see how many we can get out. This turn it is just Cats, but next turn will by Skytrains!



Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 12:07:48 PM)

AV Wright. Has been disbanded at Wellington for a long time...but I do have an Allied floatplane squadron with 1 plane size to reset to 4 using her. Has to make the perilous trip to Tasmania... or I could pack up and bring the float plane squadron to Wellington. Cheaper VP cost in transferring the plane to wellington I guess.

What do Allied players do with the Wright. Even with the final upgrade and surface radar, I have no confidence she can do anything versus I boats. Allies have plenty of normal seaplane tenders or air mobile aviation squadrons.

I can remember, vaguely, a requirement that planes operating at night from runways need to have a minimum of 4 planes...which makes her valuable simply to resize ship floatplane groups that have lost their ship if that rule applies to land based floats.

Not real sure what to do with her. Maybe as a floatplane air bridge eventually?



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mind_messing -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 12:31:35 PM)

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Not real sure what to do with her. Maybe as a floatplane air bridge eventually?


I don't think you can get enough floatplane search as either side. The usual dot hex floatplane base in the Solomons or CentPac has value. The AVP/AVD ships are probably better for this sort of work, however, but maybe think about infiltrating her into the DEI if the IJ aren't diligent with taking out dot hexes.

I've also found the bigger AV ships useful to "off-load" search on to dot bases adjacent to my big airbases. It made the most difference in CentPac and NorPac, where airbase sizes are generally pretty small, and moving a couple of Catalina squadrons to operate from a dot hex actually can save you quite a bit in terms of airbase stacking.

Otherwise, it is as you say, much easier to use the smaller, faster ships or fly in aviation support.



Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 12:36:06 PM)

I like using all the bases...probably not optimal play, but we shall see how it works out.

Every off map base is very busy with Balboa, Canada, UK, and Mombasa being very pleasant surprises. Panama Canal might be the busiest.



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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 12:42:23 PM)



I like using all the bases...probably not optimal play, but we shall see how it works out.

Every off map base is very busy with Balboa, Canada, UK, and Mombasa being very pleasant surprises. Panama Canal might be the busiest.

These southern routes are my Mister Roberts Task Forces. Lonely cargo ships hauling supplies.[:)]

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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 12:58:36 PM)

Just a little Naval Support goes a long way...just a partial list of task forces sorted by DL.

Note the impact of 3 dozen naval support...



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Encircled -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 1:01:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

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Not real sure what to do with her. Maybe as a floatplane air bridge eventually?


I don't think you can get enough floatplane search as either side. The usual dot hex floatplane base in the Solomons or CentPac has value. The AVP/AVD ships are probably better for this sort of work, however, but maybe think about infiltrating her into the DEI if the IJ aren't diligent with taking out dot hexes.

I've also found the bigger AV ships useful to "off-load" search on to dot bases adjacent to my big airbases. It made the most difference in CentPac and NorPac, where airbase sizes are generally pretty small, and moving a couple of Catalina squadrons to operate from a dot hex actually can save you quite a bit in terms of airbase stacking.

Otherwise, it is as you say, much easier to use the smaller, faster ships or fly in aviation support.



This is what I do with the bigger AVs - You will probably have hubs for supply/fuel/ on your air bridge between Oz and Pearl Harbour, they go to them for Cat/FP support



RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 2:09:45 PM)

You can also use the US Navies CAs/CLs with a capacity of 4 to resize the smaller float plane units. The Wright could be used as a floating FP base where there is no suitable base in the deep ocean - say between SF and Oahu?



BBfanboy -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 2:24:35 PM)

Very surprised about docked DD Panther going after that sub - kudos to the AI designers for thinking of that!

I develop both Balboa and Cristobal as high as possible, and mostly use Cristobal because of the bigger port and more supplies/fuel available to haul. With lower potential, Balboa is maxed out first so I move the BF to Cristobal to help build there. When both are maxed out, I move them to the USA! No ship required off map to off map.

From EC USA they can go by rail wherever needed, and I do need every aviation support and engineer I can get there. Of course you could send them to Port Stanley too if you needed, but then you would have to ship more supply there to feed them and pay for construction.



Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 2:36:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Very surprised about docked DD Panther going after that sub - kudos to the AI designers for thinking of that!

I develop both Balboa and Cristobal as high as possible, and mostly use Cristobal because of the bigger port and more supplies/fuel available to haul. With lower potential, Balboa is maxed out first so I move the BF to Cristobal to help build there. When both are maxed out, I move them to the USA! No ship required off map to off map.

From EC USA they can go by rail wherever needed, and I do need every aviation support and engineer I can get there. Of course you could send them to Port Stanley too if you needed, but then you would have to ship more supply there to feed them and pay for construction.


Hm..

Cristobal receives from East Coast, and ships to Port Stanley.

Balboa ships to the Pacific - Line Islands and down south.

Good tip about the base forces there, but it seems wrong to leave it defenseless. Might run planes there and from there to Pacific I think, to justify keeping forces there. I have already done that with a couple of squadrons and felt very safe doing it.




Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 2:40:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

You can also use the US Navies CAs/CLs with a capacity of 4 to resize the smaller float plane units. The Wright could be used as a floating FP base where there is no suitable base in the deep ocean - say between SF and Oahu?


Never really thought of doing that, mainly because they are always busy. Nice tip.

I don't think the Wright would do anything mid ocean but die to a random Iboat.



Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 2:42:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Encircled

This is what I do with the bigger AVs - You will probably have hubs for supply/fuel/ on your air bridge between Oz and Pearl Harbour, they go to them for Cat/FP support


But the Wright is a float plane carrier, albeit a mini one. I guess it is best to forget that function and use it disbanded in port as a seaplane tender.



Encircled -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 2:48:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: Encircled

This is what I do with the bigger AVs - You will probably have hubs for supply/fuel/ on your air bridge between Oz and Pearl Harbour, they go to them for Cat/FP support


But the Wright is a float plane carrier, albeit a mini one. I guess it is best to forget that function and use it disbanded in port as a seaplane tender.


Essentially yes

I used to put them in convoys but like you say, they just tend to be hit by the I-boats.

Helping secure that convoy/air transfer route PH-Oz is their best use

IMHO of course!

You can't really be as good on ASW as the Japanese are, simply because you don't have the planes, but you can make certain areas no goes for Japanese submarine efforts, and it all counts.




RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 3:12:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: Encircled

This is what I do with the bigger AVs - You will probably have hubs for supply/fuel/ on your air bridge between Oz and Pearl Harbour, they go to them for Cat/FP support


But the Wright is a float plane carrier, albeit a mini one. I guess it is best to forget that function and use it disbanded in port as a seaplane tender.


If you are using the AV Wright to detect the subs and then have ASW TFs to go chastise the subs, that might work. Just give the AV Wright some good escorts.



Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 3:33:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: Encircled

This is what I do with the bigger AVs - You will probably have hubs for supply/fuel/ on your air bridge between Oz and Pearl Harbour, they go to them for Cat/FP support


But the Wright is a float plane carrier, albeit a mini one. I guess it is best to forget that function and use it disbanded in port as a seaplane tender.


If you are using the AV Wright to detect the subs and then have ASW TFs to go chastise the subs, that might work. Just give the AV Wright some good escorts.


That doesn't work for the Japanese...hard to see it working for the Allies.



Encircled -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 3:35:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: Encircled

This is what I do with the bigger AVs - You will probably have hubs for supply/fuel/ on your air bridge between Oz and Pearl Harbour, they go to them for Cat/FP support


But the Wright is a float plane carrier, albeit a mini one. I guess it is best to forget that function and use it disbanded in port as a seaplane tender.


If you are using the AV Wright to detect the subs and then have ASW TFs to go chastise the subs, that might work. Just give the AV Wright some good escorts.


Thing is with that, is there are not enough decent escorts in 1942, and you'll have escort carriers to do that when you finally start getting the decent escorts.

Everyone though plays this game a slightly different way, and its one of the reasons you can't not love this game [:)]



mind_messing -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/11/2021 4:24:22 PM)

Worth keeping in mind that the Allied floatplane options are pretty poor compared to the IJN.

The Jake's 8/10 range is light years ahead of the Kingfisher, Seagull and the like. It's not till '43 and the Seamew that the Allies get a half-decent ship-borne floatplane that can go more than 5 hexes.



Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/12/2021 3:17:59 PM)

April 6th, 1942

Sweet Christmas in April.[:'(]

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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/12/2021 3:22:55 PM)

1-1 attack, forts dropped to 0, shock attack coming tomorrow no doubt. Flying out the two brigades.

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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/12/2021 3:31:07 PM)

Should be interesting here.

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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/12/2021 3:50:18 PM)

We cut the northern rail line out of Rockhampton. I am sure supplies can still leak in by rail and then bicycle and wagon and cart...
but no SR!



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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/12/2021 4:04:49 PM)

Luzon fighters are wearing out...rather than take IJAAF sweeps and lose badly, we attacked.[sm=00000055.gif]

First sweep high with P40B, where we ran into many more enemy fighters than anticipated.[:(]

Morning Air attack on Tuguegarao , at 82,74

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 22

Allied aircraft
P-40B Warhawk x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 4 destroyed

Then we swept at 100' with the P36A! Good job guys![:)]

Morning Air attack on Tuguegarao , at 82,74

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 20

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 1 destroyed

And then we bombed and strafed, or tried at 1000' with P40Es.

Morning Air attack on Tuguegarao , at 82,74

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x P-40E Warhawk bombing from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb


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Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/12/2021 4:10:01 PM)

Four days for the convoy to arrive, and then 3 days for the convoy to withdraw and the tanks added to the pools! I think the Grant/Lee only goes to Australian units and that I should exercise care in how many units I upgrade to them, as Matildas are plentiful relatively speaking?



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BBfanboy -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/12/2021 7:14:09 PM)


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Four days for the convoy to arrive, and then 3 days for the convoy to withdraw and the tanks added to the pools! I think the Grant/Lee only goes to Australian units and that I should exercise care in how many units I upgrade to them, as Matildas are plentiful relatively speaking?



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Correct, I opened the Intel Report Industry/Troops page and filtered for AFVs and individual countries. Grant/Lee showed up only for Australia and Commonwealth. All the other British aligned countries took General Lee and General Grant or M3 Grant.



RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/12/2021 7:24:40 PM)

You should have more than enough Matilas coming in. In fact, the Aussies stuck to the Matilda or went back to them because they are better in the Jungle. But then again, they were not fighting for their Sheilas at home either. So alot of your [R] restricted units are getting used, even some that disappear later.

Check out the units that come in and you can see how many that they get. Unless you really need the tanks now, I would not upgrade more than one unit to the Grant/Lees.



RangerJoe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/12/2021 7:33:30 PM)

You might also want to check and see if the Americans also use the Grant/Lees in any of their units. If so, save them for the Americans who don't use the Matilda.

Edit: I did not see the post from the BB fan guy from the frozen prairies!

But I don't think that the NZ units use the Matildas, just the Aussies.



Lowpe -> RE: Spanking Lowpe (NJP72 vs Lowpe (A)) (6/12/2021 8:32:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Correct, I opened the Intel Report Industry/Troops page and filtered for AFVs and individual countries. Grant/Lee showed up only for Australia and Commonwealth. All the other British aligned countries took General Lee and General Grant or M3 Grant.


I also double checked and that is what I found in this dababes game.



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