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njp72 -> RE: Title will be forthcoming vs Lowpe (12/12/2020 6:12:26 AM)

The bonus below- also managed to bag 18 x Kingfishers trapped on an AK that was smashed as well.

Not everything went the Empires way- another Amphib convoy smashed up around Chittagong costing a further 4 x AKs and approx 1K casulaties.

I am thinking Lowpe must be close to being very low on DDs and CLs.

My shipping losses are certainly not sustainable amongst my AKs but the Allies losing 30 x DDs and 6 x CLs in just over a month must be hurting massively as well.

I guess we will see. [:D]

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njp72 -> RE: Title will be forthcoming vs Lowpe (12/12/2020 6:25:05 AM)

Some of the identified shipping losses over the first 35 odd turns.

I am pretty certain that FOW is actually underestimating his DD losses by another 5 to 10. With regards to CL losses Marblehead is still running around somewhere.





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njp72 -> RE: Title will be forthcoming vs Lowpe (12/12/2020 6:26:06 AM)

Part 2

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njp72 -> RE: Title will be forthcoming vs Lowpe (12/12/2020 6:31:53 AM)

And to be balanced, IJN CL and DD losses over the same period.

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DesertWolf101 -> RE: Title will be forthcoming vs Lowpe (12/12/2020 9:49:14 AM)

What does the overall scorecard look like right now?



njp72 -> RE: Title will be forthcoming vs Lowpe (12/12/2020 10:33:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101

What does the overall scorecard look like right now?


Here you go.



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DesertWolf101 -> RE: Title will be forthcoming vs Lowpe (12/12/2020 10:42:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: njp72


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ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101

What does the overall scorecard look like right now?


Here you go.



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It certainly does look like it's been a pretty bloody first month of the war.



njp72 -> RE: Title will be forthcoming vs Lowpe (12/12/2020 11:28:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101


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ORIGINAL: njp72


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ORIGINAL: DesertWolf101

What does the overall scorecard look like right now?


Here you go.



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It certainly does look like it's been a pretty bloody first month of the war.


I concur- not a pace either side can keep up but plenty of fun.

If he wants to keep on fighting hard in early 42 I will accomodate him [:D]






ny59giants -> RE: Title will be forthcoming vs Lowpe (12/12/2020 12:16:05 PM)

What are your overall expansion goals by late '42?
India/Burma - ?
Australia - ?
So Pac - ?
Central Pac -?
No Pac - ?



Capt. Harlock -> Early Blows (12/12/2020 9:00:52 PM)

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I am pretty certain that FOW is actually underestimating his DD losses by another 5 to 10. With regards to CL losses Marblehead is still running around somewhere.


Isn't it unusual for FOW to underestimate rather than overestimate?



njp72 -> RE: Title will be forthcoming vs Lowpe (12/13/2020 4:13:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

What are your overall expansion goals by late '42?
India/Burma - ?
Australia - ?
So Pac - ?
Central Pac -?
No Pac - ?



Still deciding Mike.

Wherever he wants to fight in 42 that is where the Enpire will be :-)

Definitely Australia for strat bombing for at least 3K of points. Indian industry sounds pretty good as well.

The rest I am less sold on, especially No Pac which is a nightmare to operate in. I can see some advantages of small spoiling attacks in the Central Pac which I will explore further.

Also depends on if he gets rattled or panics which may create additional opportunities. To realistically win I need Lowpe to make quite a few serious mistakes which he doesn't normally do (aside from invading Russia on the odd occassion).

All good fun either way.




njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/13/2020 4:18:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

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I am pretty certain that FOW is actually underestimating his DD losses by another 5 to 10. With regards to CL losses Marblehead is still running around somewhere.


Isn't it unusual for FOW to underestimate rather than overestimate?


I often find the FOW underestimates the number of ships sank especially by naval gunfire and by bombing (the exact opposite occurs with mines and torps).

I have hit quite a few concentrations of Allied shipping in ports and fought multiple running battles with his DDs who despite being very heavily damaged, disappeared into thin air the next turn followed by a gurgling sound :-)

I am pretty sure his actual shipping losses would be closer to 300 rather than the 250 my scorebooard is telling me but only the punters that can read both AARs would truly know [;)]



njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 9:22:34 PM)

Update 16th Jan 42

Turn rate is slow at the moment due to Christmas, family and travel.

Each turn we do though is massive- almost a game in itself. Never seen so much destruction so early in a PBEM as the Allies refuse to run but instead choose to hold their ground and fight.

Lots of land combat this turn as the IJA starts to land some telling blows.

China - major road block now clear south of Sian by a strong combined arms group.

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njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 9:24:18 PM)

Map of China

Axis of advance has well and truly switched now from the North to the South- has Lowpe realised what is happening???

Guess I will find out in the next 2 weeks.

Looking at some of the movement arrows from the Chinese units below I am guessing yes.



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njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 9:30:06 PM)

India- it cost me plenty in terms of AKs and DDs (alot of which was my own fault for leaving fuel on the AKs [:@]) but we are now ashore and slaughtering the Indians.

Lowpe was a bit unlucky as the 18th Brit Division rushing into strat mode to Chittagong decided to halt and unload 1 hex short of the objective. Not sure what would have happened to the shock attack if that unit was there, but given it was in strat mode it may turn out to be a blessing in disguise for the Allies.

Want to really push on here and carve up any Indian formation I find in any open terrain- shock attack is the default setting for my beloved IJA.



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njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 9:34:06 PM)

And the resulting carnage at Chittagong. Ouch!

If he wants to continue to forward defend and fight then I am his Huckleberry [:D]

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njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 9:37:57 PM)

Hard fighting continues on the East Coast of OZ but I reckon I will break the Allies here soon too as well.

Plenty of reinforcements are on the way moving by strat down to the battlefield.

Paused the strat bombing until certain locations are seized and the Allies lose some more airfields.



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njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 9:41:27 PM)

Major battle last turn in Oz.

Don't mind this result. When I add a couple of more divisions to the mix the Empire should be able to break through relatively easy- unless the Allies break off and retreat.

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njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 9:48:48 PM)

Central Pacific

Wake and Midway are now very heavily fortified with hundreds of mines. Too costly to frontally assault for the moment.

Taken the opportunity to seize some real estate on the cheap and perhaps hunt down the occassional ship or destroy an isolated garrison or two for points. Will do this for a few more weeks before heading back to the major theatres.

What island or island chain hurts the most to lose in the central pacific for the Allies????



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njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 9:51:03 PM)

Western Oz- consolidating (running away) until air cover is re-established.

No need to push here for the moment. Plenty of time.

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njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 9:57:00 PM)

Naval tactics.

Lowpe is the master of disbanding small SAGs comprised of CLs and DDs into dot hexes and waiting for the opportune moment to strike troop and logistic convoys once the main forces have passed.

I just don't have enough recon assets to counter this particularly since I am moving everywhere with speed. Apart from the series of disasters around Rabaul I have managed to fight off the vast majority of these attacks by embedding CLs and DDs directly into the amphib taskforces.

Very clever tactics from Lowpe and this turn he was at it again. No sighting of the Allied DDs before they emerged from the blue. Still he continues to lose DDs at an amazing rate.

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njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 10:04:27 PM)

Scoreboard- neither side can continue to lose this amount of shipping.

Something or someone will have to bend/ break or 43 is going to be pretty quiet. [:)] But it won't be me. As long as I don't lose KB, I will actively seek any engagement where I can inflict reasonable damage and prevail.

Having some success in smashing apart his ground forces as well. Can I inflict 20K of losses onto his ground forces before the war's end- I think so.

Strat bombing will rev up again. I want to try and harvest around 3k to 5K in points here before it ceases.

AV is always a chance but highly unlikely given the skill of the opponent. None of my victories (especially at sea) are particuarly bloodless so it will make it hard.

A great game well into 45 would be a good outcome as well.

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RangerJoe -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 10:12:30 PM)

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. . . Never seen so much destruction so early in A PBEM as the Allies refuse to run and stand and fight.
[&:]

Do you actually mean something like ". . . Never seen so much destruction so early in A PBEM as the Allies refuse to run and but instead stand and fight."

Italics added to show the change.



jdsrae -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 10:18:45 PM)

I think that’s one of the best uses for the old IJN CLs (ie: nearly all of them!) and their older DDs early war.
2x CL and 2-3x DD should let them lead up to 10 Amphib task forces.



njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 10:31:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

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. . . Never seen so much destruction so early in A PBEM as the Allies refuse to run and stand and fight.
[&:]

Do you actually mean something like ". . . Never seen so much destruction so early in A PBEM as the Allies refuse to run and but instead stand and fight."

Italics added to show the change.


Yep that was what I meant [:)]



njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/19/2020 10:32:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jdsrae

I think that’s one of the best uses for the old IJN CLs (ie: nearly all of them!) and their older DDs early war.
2x CL and 2-3x DD should let them lead up to 10 Amphib task forces.


It is amazing the difference they can make against these small surface raiders.

When I lost that convoy around Rabaul it only had PBs. Big lesson learnt.



ny59giants -> RE: Early Blows (12/20/2020 5:57:39 AM)

I like to use Christmas Island in Line Islands as potential hub in Central Pacific for Allies. It's large enough for many things once built up.

For Japan, you can place an Air HQ with either Nell or trained up Emily (NavT) to reach far and wide for attacks on transports.



njp72 -> RE: Early Blows (12/20/2020 7:33:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I like to use Christmas Island in Line Islands as potential hub in Central Pacific for Allies. It's large enough for many things once built up.

For Japan, you can place an Air HQ with either Nell or trained up Emily (NavT) to reach far and wide for attacks on transports.


I like your thinking Mike- this likely to be a goer.



RangerJoe -> RE: Early Blows (12/20/2020 12:50:08 PM)

A level 2 airfield and they will fly with a full load. If torpedoes are not available but the mission type of "Naval" attack is selected with "Torpedo" weapon chosen, then the full bomb load is used - from the level 2 airfield. [X(] At 1k feet as well, so that is six bombs for merchant ships and lightly or non-armoured escorts on a low level attack that is very effective. [X(]

Note: I have posted that elsewhere as well. I have also posted on your opponents thread as well.



T Rav -> RE: Early Blows (12/20/2020 3:59:12 PM)

Reading both, but I love the "Huckleberry" comment.



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