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.Sirius -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (11/16/2020 12:20:50 PM)

Hi guys

scenario updated and up loaded




Parel803 -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (11/16/2020 7:07:34 PM)

Thxagain. Impressive scenario. Unfortnally I shot down a Fishbed that closed my helo (should have checked height). I will be attending court. I found something on Roe's, PPI and intent/act, if anyone is interested:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiu3eaX2YftAhWC2aQKHe9SA58QFjABegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpure.uva.nl%2Fws%2Ffiles%2F7940990%2FBoddens_Hosang_Thesis_complete.pdf&usg=AOvVaw262mNQt9_WrGCvl0roBeiU
Should open a pdf

Not really scenario but more submarine question:
- I send my subs sometime to PD for intell sharing. The sub of my friendly partners stays "no comms". Would it be possible to have him every xx at PD if situation allows?
- Love the realistic sub comms but how to check if she is one of my own? (gertrude check). I can give her an area to operate?

with regards GJ




.Sirius -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (11/16/2020 7:55:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Parel803

Thxagain. Impressive scenario. Unfortnally I shot down a Fishbed that closed my helo (should have checked height). I will be attending court. I found something on Roe's, PPI and intent/act, if anyone is interested:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiu3eaX2YftAhWC2aQKHe9SA58QFjABegQIBxAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpure.uva.nl%2Fws%2Ffiles%2F7940990%2FBoddens_Hosang_Thesis_complete.pdf&usg=AOvVaw262mNQt9_WrGCvl0roBeiU
Should open a pdf

Not really scenario but more submarine question:
- I send my subs sometime to PD for intell sharing. The sub of my friendly partners stays "no comms". Would it be possible to have him every xx at PD if situation allows?
- Love the realistic sub comms but how to check if she is one of my own? (gertrude check). I can give an area to operate?

with regards GJ

I can always put the Submarines in a stove-pipe and have comms sked





Parel803 -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (11/16/2020 8:08:55 PM)

nice :-)




magi -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (11/17/2020 5:55:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: .Sirius

Hi Guys
Scenario updated and uploaded

Done alot of changes

1. Reagan CVBG and Japanese Task Group and US Forces now on UK and Coalition side as well as Guam Air Base.

2. Added additional Chinese Forces.

3. Added Additional Malaysian and Singarpore units.

4. COMAIR and Merchant Ship traffic added.

5. Added News reports and other bits to many to mention but you will find out !

well this will be a welcome improvement for me..... as i was constantly switching sides.... i guess i will load it up and start over....




magi -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (11/22/2020 2:50:35 AM)

ive spent days looking and setting this up.... just starting to play....
i got rid of all the nofly zones except mainland china.... partly because i dont like looking at them.... and planning on taking out woody island....
? can we strike in the red zone....?
i believe we would have rq9s on patrol so i added a couple....
latter......




.Sirius -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (11/22/2020 9:35:34 AM)

Hi Maggi,
You can do what you want:)




magi -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (11/25/2020 1:38:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: .Sirius

Hi Maggi,
You can do what you want:)

okidokie...... there is a lot that i am enjoying in this scenario... the many sides.. the need to qualify all the traffic... multitude battles and strikes by varying sides.... pretty cool.... the only thing i dont get is the chinese response is so effete.... they are sending out korean war airplanes... kind of silly.... its a feel good scenario.... but i am still into the first hour... so i will see how it goes.....
i think you should add a few isrt drones... like rq4s or somthing... we and our allies use them...
i am having fun with this.... more latter....




.Sirius -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (11/25/2020 6:01:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: magi


quote:

ORIGINAL: .Sirius

Hi Maggi,
You can do what you want:)

okidokie...... there is a lot that i am enjoying in this scenario... the many sides.. the need to qualify all the traffic... multitude battles and strikes by varying sides.... pretty cool.... the only thing i dont get is the chinese response is so effete.... they are sending out korean war airplanes... kind of silly.... its a feel good scenario.... but i am still into the first hour... so i will see how it goes.....
i think you should add a few isrt drones... like rq4s or somthing... we and our allies use them...
i am having fun with this.... more latter....

Hi
Thanks for the testing, drones not a problem,just afew questions you mentioned " chinese response is so effete.... they are sending out korean war airplanes"do you mean Chinese response too effective and the other Korean War planes ?




magi -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (11/26/2020 12:36:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: .Sirius


quote:

ORIGINAL: magi


quote:

ORIGINAL: .Sirius

Hi Maggi,
You can do what you want:)

okidokie...... there is a lot that i am enjoying in this scenario... the many sides.. the need to qualify all the traffic... multitude battles and strikes by varying sides.... pretty cool.... the only thing i dont get is the chinese response is so effete.... they are sending out korean war airplanes... kind of silly.... its a feel good scenario.... but i am still into the first hour... so i will see how it goes.....
i think you should add a few isrt drones... like rq4s or somthing... we and our allies use them...
i am having fun with this.... more latter....

Hi
Thanks for the testing, drones not a problem,just afew questions you mentioned " chinese response is so effete.... they are sending out korean war airplanes"do you mean Chinese response too effective and the other Korean War planes ?

around hong kong and to the north... they are putting out mig 21s with pythons.... thats a pretty low grade fighter for air defense work.... whiles im using f35s and f15s with aim 120s up there..... and they have little to no air defense out farther south.... i am taking out their assets without contest.... they should be using a better fighter...

i believe the chinese should have a major aaw patrol around woody island.... it should be a long narrow patrol area running ne to sw.. with a large prosecution area extending out to beyond the middle of the south china sea.. and to the south off the coast of the da nang area..... that way they can defend and contest the battle space and interrupt allied support running north and south.....




.Sirius -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (11/26/2020 9:55:26 AM)

Hi Guys

Scenario updated and uploaded, amended Chinese Fighter Orbat




magi -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (11/27/2020 4:10:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: .Sirius

Hi Guys

Scenario updated and uploaded, amended Chinese Fighter Orbat

cool.....




kgambit -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (12/1/2020 4:40:30 PM)

Not sure if I have the most current version, but the Chinese Destroyer Sunk event activates the Coalition Destroyer Sunk action.

Also, the F-35 Lightnings on the USS America have no reloads for their AMRAAMs - was that intended?





.Sirius -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (12/1/2020 8:32:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kgambit

Not sure if I have the most current version, but the Chinese Destroyer Sunk event activates the Coalition Destroyer Sunk action.

Also, the F-35 Lightnings on the USS America have no reloads for their AMRAAMs - was that intended?

Good catch, scenario uploaded and updated





.Sirius -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (12/7/2020 9:24:44 PM)

Hi guys
I'll give the scenario another week,addsometweaks thenpush it out




magi -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (12/9/2020 2:10:19 AM)

this is much better than version one... i spent days checking and setting myself up and days playing... im into two hours game time... i am a pathetic slow player....
however..... i made a lot of changes... got rid of all the exclusion zones.. reduced strike loadouts and added sams to ships... included isrt assets... changed loadouts on aircraft... became allies with all belligerents of china.... eliminated some missions and reconfigured others.....
im surprised at how much i am enjoying this.... the only general disappointment i have is china needs more air defenders out in the middle and south... in an hour and 50 minutes i have total air dominance.. excluding aids which i will work on next.... the chinese need more air defenders out... i think i will go into their side and add more....
great fun here.....




magi -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (12/9/2020 3:25:47 AM)

I am looking at the Chinese side cap Missions.....
Cap missions act better with separate patrol and prosecution areas.... patrol areas should be smallish.. I like long and narrow patrol areas with large prosecution areas .. and I rearranged your caps in this manner .....
For number of reasons in game . fighters perform better singly rather than groups .. you can assign how many to investigate and prosecute targets ...
You might want to consider reducing some of your ready times ..... I have a added and launched few more fighters to all the caps because I already destroyed the ones that were up ...
You may want to see if you have enough loadouts at your bases .... some looked a little minimal to me .....




.Sirius -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (12/9/2020 9:05:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: magi

I am looking at the Chinese side cap Missions.....
Cap missions act better with separate patrol and prosecution areas.... patrol areas should be smallish.. I like long and narrow patrol areas with large prosecution areas .. and I rearranged your caps in this manner .....
For number of reasons in game . fighters perform better singly rather than groups .. you can assign how many to investigate and prosecute targets ...
You might want to consider reducing some of your ready times ..... I have a added and launched few more fighters to all the caps because I already destroyed the ones that were up ...
You may want to see if you have enough loadouts at your bases .... some looked a little minimal to me .....

Hi thanks for your input, I will be updating





magi -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (12/13/2020 5:05:44 AM)

Cool......




magi -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (12/13/2020 5:14:01 AM)

Cool.... In your next version I will try playing it without moding it so much..... that way I can give you a better assessment on how it plays out .... although I will probably get rid of the exclusion zones they just look so awful if nothing else and you have so many even in countries that are friendly like the Philippines ....
And I will probably move the carrier battle group ingress further to the east as I believe that would be more logical in having some mutual support from the primary blue air base..... and there is deeper water over there ....
Oh... The 3 B-52 load outs are probably not sufficient for destroying a well escorted battle group like the Chinese carrier group .... and would probably pretty much be a waste of ammo ......




.Sirius -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (12/13/2020 7:27:24 AM)

Hi no issues,
I use the B-52's to strike mainland China




.Sirius -> RE: New Scenario for Testing "Right of Passage" (12/16/2020 11:15:11 AM)

Hi Guys

Scenario updated and uploaded




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