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kennonlightfoot -> RE: December 5 1941 (12/7/2020 4:18:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MagicMissile

Dang it, does the Geneva convention say prisoners must have spagetti? *Grumble* well no more than once per week [:)].


Only the Italians. Germans get sauerkraut.



ago1000 -> RE: December 5 1941 (12/7/2020 10:01:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kennonlightfoot


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ORIGINAL: MagicMissile

Dang it, does the Geneva convention say prisoners must have spagetti? *Grumble* well no more than once per week [:)].


Only the Italians. Germans get sauerkraut.

Lol. I think though withholding the meatballs is OK.[8|]


@MM
For the UK only, could you please add up all the shipyards values(CV - 25,escorts - 1, etc) in the build queue and subtract them from the the number of shipyards you have and see if the numbers line up with your stockpile. I think kennonlightfoot found a bug.



MagicMissile -> RE: December 5 1941 (12/8/2020 5:59:30 PM)

Here is the build queue. 125 pts if I count correctly.



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MagicMissile -> RE: December 5 1941 (12/8/2020 6:00:11 PM)

And here production. I cant really tell if ok not :)



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ago1000 -> RE: December 5 1941 (12/8/2020 6:30:27 PM)

Thanks MM:
Maybe I'm crazy but it looks like you are way off.
You only have 65 shipyards, you are using 125 of them at the moment with 54 more available for use. In essence you have 179 shipyards in Jan 42. Lol. I think your shipyard is Mafioso. [;)]




MagicMissile -> RE: December 5 1941 (12/8/2020 7:29:29 PM)

Yes you might be right. How odd. For every other country it seems to work. The US for example and Germany.

But UK have a lot more shipyards than 65 right? So that number seems off. 54 might be I built One mm one escort this turn that would be 65-11=54 so that seems to be working at least [:)]. With all the sinkings I whip the workcrews to work tripple shifts :)



MagicMissile -> Jan 30 1942 (12/8/2020 7:37:44 PM)

Jan 30 1942

We can skip forward a bit. Not super much going on. In Africa there has been a setback. Was too slow around Tobruk. The Italaian invasion made my units very tired and meanwhile a German arm corps arrived. So I have lost one canadian corps and soon a British as well. Well played!

In the Atlantic I was for a while under 100 merchants. Now last 2 turns taken lots of damage but inflicted 14 sub losses so for the moment at least only 1 subgroup out on my convoylines.

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MagicMissile -> RE: Jan 30 1942 (12/8/2020 7:38:46 PM)

In the east the front is still. I try to build up for the summer.



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kennonlightfoot -> RE: December 5 1941 (12/9/2020 6:17:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MagicMissile

Yes you might be right. How odd. For every other country it seems to work. The US for example and Germany.

But UK have a lot more shipyards than 65 right? So that number seems off. 54 might be I built One mm one escort this turn that would be 65-11=54 so that seems to be working at least [:)]. With all the sinkings I whip the workcrews to work tripple shifts :)

UK only has 65. Something odd is going on with shipyards in ver 9. Unless there is a game mechanism I am not aware of the Stockpile plus the shipyard cost of units in queue should equal the Shipyard number of 65.



ago1000 -> RE: December 5 1941 (12/9/2020 8:00:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kennonlightfoot


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ORIGINAL: MagicMissile

Yes you might be right. How odd. For every other country it seems to work. The US for example and Germany.

But UK have a lot more shipyards than 65 right? So that number seems off. 54 might be I built One mm one escort this turn that would be 65-11=54 so that seems to be working at least [:)]. With all the sinkings I whip the workcrews to work tripple shifts :)

UK only has 65. Something odd is going on with shipyards in ver 9. Unless there is a game mechanism I am not aware of the Stockpile plus the shipyard cost of units in queue should equal the Shipyard number of 65.

It's an issue that effects 0.081 also. When you capture Netherlands and don't sink their fleet, when you deploy the patrol group, 15 is added to the stockpile. So in the game above, France surrendered, so all those ships when deployed added to the shipyard stockpile total.

[8|]If only you had the production points to take advantage of it cause I know a guy who knows a guy.[:-] Thanks MM for those numbers. Looks like sub: escort sink ration is about 2: 1.



MagicMissile -> RE: December 5 1941 (12/9/2020 9:47:46 PM)

No problem [:)] .

BoA going so badly 1-2 escorts down and 12 merchants every turn. All UK do is try to replace it at least USA can build some troops but yeah looking dark. And it is only 9 subs out at any time not a huge investment by any means.



MagicMissile -> RE: December 5 1941 (12/10/2020 5:11:52 PM)

I think with some Italian sub losses it is about 3 subfactors repaired in on turn for about 20 pps for 1 escort buildtime 7 months and cost 40pps. Cant help it feels something is off here. But it is only 1 game maybe it is an outlier somehow.
And as you said without the increased UK shipyards the UK would have ran out of merchants and escorts a long time ago.



MagicMissile -> March 27 1942 (12/10/2020 5:16:29 PM)

March 27 1942

Situation in Africa where some US troops arrived to try and shore up the situation.

And look at those lovely merchant and escort losses. It hurts [:)]


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MagicMissile -> RE: March 27 1942 (12/10/2020 5:18:25 PM)

Bad weather so not much going on in the east.

I look at forces and feel fairly certain that the Soviets can survive this summer. 2500 vs 1400 feels ok for sure but I think German strength will shoot up soon as I guess he is rebuilding some of the mech units lost earlier but we will see.



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MagicMissile -> April 24 1942 (12/10/2020 8:04:44 PM)

April 24 1942

Cold weather in southern Russia and the Germans strike and capture Rostov. I thought I had a decent defense but not good enough. I send down as much reserves as I can.



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MagicMissile -> RE: April 24 1942 (12/10/2020 8:06:49 PM)

And in Africa the Germans leave probably to join the attack in the east. But something went wrong with the orders sent to the Italian commander and Tobruk was left unoccupied so in a reversal of fortunes again in Africa a British corps invade and take Tobruk. I think it should hold against the counterattack.

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MagicMissile -> May 8 1942 (12/11/2020 12:54:55 PM)

May 8 1942

Nope it did not hold. And A British coprs surrendered in Tobruk. This Africa campaign is very fun back and forth like the real war. The not so fun thing I find it really hard to make any progress.

At least the US navy charge into Tobruk harbour and sink a Italian BB.


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MagicMissile -> RE: May 8 1942 (12/11/2020 12:57:32 PM)

In the east I dont retreat. I have only seen like 8 mech units so I think I might have to back off a bit eventually but not yet. I managed to liberate a surrounded army near Kursk almost shattering a German mech corps but it got away.




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MagicMissile -> May 22 1942 (12/11/2020 1:04:38 PM)

May 22 1942

In the north the Finns advance a bit and I have been not vigilant enough there and lack a couple of units on this front.

German army has grown quite a bit but Soviet army size at least for the moment on a comfortable level.


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MagicMissile -> RE: May 22 1942 (12/11/2020 1:07:18 PM)

In the south I shatter a mech corps. A German invasion of the caucasus will stretch my reserves thin. And finally I had a lousy 20% xp corps holding the supply line for a couple of units. It retreated of course so now 2 units will be lost north of the Crimea. Clumsily I also used both airtransport to help them but they got shot down of course [:)].

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MagicMissile -> RE: May 22 1942 (12/11/2020 1:10:11 PM)

Back to standoff in Africa but again the US navy do a good job now raiding Bengazi sinking a ca and infliciting severe damage on a BB.





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MagicMissile -> June 5 1942 (12/11/2020 1:15:16 PM)

Rush reserves to contain the Finns. But these units are needed elsewhere so not so good.



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MagicMissile -> RE: June 5 1942 (12/11/2020 1:17:01 PM)

In the south try to contain the invasion. I placed a aircraft unit that will get overrun well done :).

Rostov breakthrough at least for now bottled up but this is close. I dont have much reserve units any longer.



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MagicMissile -> RE: June 5 1942 (12/11/2020 1:19:16 PM)

And on the central front more mech units show up.



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MagicMissile -> June 19 1942 (12/11/2020 8:26:41 PM)

June 19 1942

Situation on the Atlantic a little bit better now. I am upp to 150 mm lowest point was 97 also US have got some as well. Escorts up to 25 with another 23 in the queue arriving in the next 6 months.

But it is not over. My escort tech is so slow still 150 days from 43 tech whereas German subs are now 44 tech.



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MagicMissile -> RE: June 19 1942 (12/11/2020 8:28:26 PM)

In the east the fighting going on. It is very nervewrecking and exciting [:)]. In the North the Finns landed themselves in a bit of a pickle. I got one corps to surrender and maybe I will catch another one

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MagicMissile -> RE: June 19 1942 (12/11/2020 8:30:26 PM)

On the central front the new German superweapon is revealed.. *Drumroll* it is the cavalry corps. I have detected 4 on the front this turn. I immediately attacked and managed to shatter one.



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MagicMissile -> RE: June 19 1942 (12/11/2020 8:32:26 PM)

And the furious fighting in the south. The Germans will probably connect Rostov with the invading units. I managed to shatter a italian and German inf corps so Soviets are not toothless but units looks a bit worn down and I am really lacking some reserve units. I have none in the building queue as all production is on replacement. Good thing manpower at a decent 91%.

As can be seen 2 more cavalrycorps here.



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MagicMissile -> July 3 1942 (12/11/2020 8:41:01 PM)

July 3 1942

In the north the pocket still holds. Crossing my fingers!



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MagicMissile -> RE: July 3 1942 (12/11/2020 8:42:07 PM)

I give way in the middle. My units a bit tired and I dont want to risk too much.



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