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Earthman -> Geographical Straits (12/8/2020 5:03:04 PM)

Any comments on the following: 1. German sub enters Gulf of Saint Lawrence via Cabot Strait, but cannot leave via Strait of Belle Isle (Hex 36,40) as it is impassible. 2. But Japanese sub enters Sea of Japan and cannot leave via Tatar Strait (Hex 212,39) until and unless Vladivostok is captured even while port of Nikolaevsk (211,38) is still in Russian hands. 3. Stalin's "Road of Bones" from Magadan (218, 30) to Irkutsk (199,26) is not on the map. Admittedly, well off anybody's battle plans, but a port nevertheless, and Irkutsk does connect with a road to the south.



BillRunacre -> RE: Geographical Straits (12/9/2020 9:38:51 AM)

Hi

1. This is because 36,40 is a land/sea hex whereby only naval units of the same side as the hex's current owner can pass through it.

2. This seems rather strange as only the control of locations in the vicinity of 212,39 should make any difference to whether or not Japanese ships can pass. Do you have a saved turn showing this?

3. It is a bit off the beaten track, did they build a railway too or just a road?



OldCrowBalthazor -> RE: Geographical Straits (12/9/2020 10:39:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BillRunacre

Hi

1. This is because 36,40 is a land/sea hex whereby only naval units of the same side as the hex's current owner can pass through it.

2. This seems rather strange as only the control of locations in the vicinity of 212,39 should make any difference to whether or not Japanese ships can pass. Do you have a saved turn showing this?

3. It is a bit off the beaten track, did they build a railway too or just a road?


It's a road called officially the Kolyma Highway, and it runs from Yakutsk to Magadan. It has a dirt or gravel surface and is quite bad. It's also known as the 'road of bones', as it was built mostly with penal labor that perished during its construction. It is actually quite strategic and possibly could have been used by the Japanese to advance into the gold country there from Magadan port, but it would have been a logistical nightmare.

The Murmansk Railway had a sinister reputation also, with stories like some temporary mile markers made with femur bones of the dead that built it or the roadbed serving as the final resting place for a lot of these poor wretches. A somber thing to hear, but then, that's part of humanity's history. [:(]



Earthman -> RE: Geographical Straits (12/9/2020 3:58:09 PM)

Thank you all for a reply. Is this a general rule: 1. A nation must control both sides of a strait in order to prevent enemy ships from passing through. 2. A garrison from Japan occupied the northern half of Sakhalin Island. But the Russian side of The Tartar Strait was in Russians hands. Then an invasion landed at Nikolaev. Japanese sub passed through into the Sea of Okhotsk. 3. Stalin built a road.



BillRunacre -> RE: Geographical Straits (12/10/2020 10:20:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Earthman

Thank you all for a reply. Is this a general rule: 1. A nation must control both sides of a strait in order to prevent enemy ships from passing through. 2. A garrison from Japan occupied the northern half of Sakhalin Island. But the Russian side of The Tartar Strait was in Russians hands. Then an invasion landed at Nikolaev. Japanese sub passed through into the Sea of Okhotsk. 3. Stalin built a road.


It is who controls the actual hex that counts, so for instance if there were a Japanese unit on the strait then the Japanese naval unit could pass through the strait, whereas if a Soviet one occupied it then the Japanese unit couldn't.

They may therefore want to fight it out as this does give both sides an incentive to capture that hex.



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