Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm.....

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rook749 -> Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 3:51:57 PM)
Now on my third PBEM. I will be playing against Janushm, who is new to the Admiral's Addition but has played the Original War in the Pacific and picked this up on sale over the holiday. AS I did last time I will take any help I can get. Before we get started I would like to thank Janushmand all of the forum players who comment. The community makes this game what it is.

BBfanboy -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 3:57:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rook749 Now on my third PBEM. I will be playing against Janushm, who is new to the Admiral's Addition but has played the Original War in the Pacific and picked this up on sale over the holiday. AS I did last time I will take any help I can get. Before we get started I would like to thank Janushmand all of the forum players who comment. The community makes this game what it is. Many things in WITP-AE work differently than they did in WITP. I hope your opponent tries some of the small scenarios to get used to the new interface and richer player control of combat set-ups. I haven't played WITP but from other players who have, I understand AE offers a lot more on the land combat side. EDIT: Of course help will be available to you, but you must be fairly specific about what you are seeking. [;)]

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 3:59:19 PM)
Now for the Game Settings and Rules --- Game Settings • Dababes C mod, Scenario 28 • Extended map • Stacking limits installed • 1 day turns (may change to 2 Days later) • Fog of War • Advanced Weather • Allied Damage Control • PDU ON • Historical First Turn ON • December 7th Surprise • Reliable USN Torpedoes OFF • Realistic R&D • No Unit Withdrawals OFF • Reinforcements Fixed for both sides • Combat Reports • Auto Sub Ops OFF • TF Move Radius • Plane Move Radius • Set All Facilities to Expand at Start OFF • Automatic Upgrade Ships and Air Groups OFF • Accept Air and Ground Replacements ON House Rules ---------------- Japanese Specific 1. No hunting of the US CV’s for the first 2 turns. If KB stumbles on them, then so be it, but IJ will not deliberately hunt them. 2. Kwangtung command units cannot leave Korea/Manchukuo unless full PP’s are paid. 3. Royal Thai Army cannot leave Thailand 4. Japanese may not sail past Singapore to invade the west coast of Malaya while Singapore is British controlled. 5. Only Glen floatplanes on submarines (or Serians if subs arrived so equipped, ic I400’s). Allied Specific ---------------- 1. 1st turn a. Allies can only move already formed TF’s, except off-map bases. b. Allies can change aircraft orders, but not move them. The only exceptions are AVG and Soviet forces. c. Chinese can do anything (not Hong Kong) 2. No allied non-Chinese LCU may enter China until 1944 and then only USA ENG and HQ. a. Exceptions: Provided that the Allies control Burma, Thailand, Indo-China, and Luzon, the Allied non-Chinese LCU’s may then use Chinese bases provided that they are not operating with Chinese LCU’s present in the hex and the date is after 1 Jan 1945. If China is ever completely conquered, or Chungking is the only Chinese base controlled by the Allies, or the Chinese are down to only 2 cities, then these restrictions do not apply. 3. No Corsairs allowed on US CV’s until 1/44 except for air transport purposes. 4. HMS Implacable’s fighters must remain Seafires or Hellcats, as Corsairs were too big for it. Both Sides ---------- 1. No Naval Attack by Allied land-based 2E bombers under 1000’ until 6/42 2. 4E bombers: no rules 3. Landings only on the base or dot hexes. 4. Submarines may not make a naval landing on any opposed hex. 5. City Attack strategic bombing is not permitted until 7/1/42. 6. No strategic bombing in or out of China unless or until US or British troops are there as outlined and allowed above. 7. Gentlemen’s agreement not to bomb Chinese airfields for the sole purpose of destroying supply. This is a somewhat loose arrangement since airfields would be considered valid targets if the hex has opposing troops, or if intel detects large numbers of aircraft based there. THIS IS ONLY IN CHINA. 8. Only the IJ Kwantung Army Command units must pay full PP price to change commands. All other command changes can be worked as the player sees fit paying PP to cross national boundaries. 9. House Rules can be renegotiated at any time if either player feels they are not effective, or circumstances arise that warrant changing, adding, or deleting HR’s. 10. If a real commander wouldn’t do it, then don’t do it. If you think what you are about to do is gamey, ask yourself if a real commander would do it and let that guide your play

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 4:02:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BBfanboy Many things in WITP-AE work differently than they did in WITP. I hope your opponent tries some of the small scenarios to get used to the new interface and richer player control of combat set-ups. I haven't played WITP but from other players who have, I understand AE offers a lot more on the land combat side. EDIT: Of course help will be available to you, but you must be fairly specific about what you are seeking. [;)] As Always Thanks BBFanboy. Janushm has been working on the game mechanics for the last month, the main reason I think he asked for the historical 1st Option was to simplify/reduce the chance of error to start the game off.

RangerJoe -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 4:03:05 PM)
Let him know that if he wants help, he can do an AAR as well.

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 4:20:14 PM)
Let's Talk Strategy --- I will be ripping the basic plan for defense from Sardaukar's Plan as where I will fight to hold and where I will do a limited Sir Robin. http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2564541&mpage=1&key=Newbies The Red Line is where I will fight to the death to hold. INDIA We will fight a delaying action in Rangoon "B" falling back to the Red Line. If possible, after we ensure we have sufficient forces to hold Ceylon "E" we will move to reinforce Port Blair -- "A". If we lose Port Blair or can hold it will we will look to hold point "C" or "D". ** Austrialia We will fight a delaying action in Port Moresby "1". Forces will be rushed to hold Fiji and Pago Pago, once forces are en route or at these areas we will look to move to hold New Caledonia and Espiritu Santo --- "2" & "3". We will then look to the Ellice Islands "4" or the Phoenix Islands. [image]local://upfiles/23360/DADFACF91AFF4D6E8117046A65952AEC.jpg[/image]

BBfanboy -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 4:31:36 PM)
First piece of advice - between the USN Far East (or Far West) fleet, the British cruisers, Australian/NZ cruisers and the Dutch Fleet there are opportunities to ambush some of his advance. The reality is that the Japanese have to expand very rapidly and cannot cover all of it well. You must find out where KB and Mini-KB are, and learn when his Netties get an HQ that can supply them torps. Avoid those three and use SIGINT and Ops Report info to figure out where there are thinly escorted TFs you can ambush. Lowpe's Allied AAR (Spanking Lowpe) is a master class in how to do this. They make the Sir Robin period so much more exciting and enjoyable, even if you lose some ships doing it.

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 4:45:35 PM)
General Strategic Overview ---------------- Given I have no idea what Janshm tends to do or what his overall plan of attack, until I can determine his overall focus, China, India, Australia, hold the historic perimeter I am simply going to hold the areas as outlined above and try to preserve my CV’s as a force in being. Overall, I will try to build for a massive Oct of ’43 offensive via Burma, but this may or may not be what occurs. China ---------------- Hold until relieved or dead. Use max stacking limits in bad terrain to hold as much of the industry and supplies for a long as possible. Air Transport as much supply to China as possible. This is one area vs. a real human I feel will be an issue as I expect to lose most if not all of China simply because I have no idea how to defend versus a concentrated offensive. My first move will be to attack Ichang and the forces near it before he can reinforce. India ---------------- I will send the 18th UK to India to Hold Calcutta and be my "rail" reserve. All free Indian Brigade's not part of Burma's division at sea will go to Ceylon to delay/hold this area. All other units will rest, train, and hold the India/Burma border after detachments to hold the coast and internal security. After the Ceylon Infantry Brigades arrive, we can shift these forces to the other others, as noted in the general plan above. Australia ---------------- Major effort to hold all Perth and the entire Eastern Coast. Horn Island will be left to hold with minimal (if any) reinforcements. Port Moresby will receive the two Infantry Battalions to complete the Brigade, supplies, and dig in. Singapore ---------------- No new units will be committed, but single ship supply convoys will try and slip through at the start until losses are too high. All units will fall back and recombine in Singapore as fast as possible. DEI ---------------- As many units as possible fall back to one or two points and hold for as long as possible. Need to look at a more detailed plan in this area. Burma ---------------- Units that can recombine fall back to Rangoon to dig in and hold. Hold the Air over Rangoon as long as possible for single ship convoys and bring supply in and fuel out. Hold the road open to China as long as possible and then fall back to the India/Burma border and then hold here at all costs unless he lands behind India's lines. Christmas Island or Penrhyn ---------------- This will become my middle base to route all convoys around as the convoy system gets rolling. It will also become a supply point to fuel the advance. It will feed Pago Pago and Suva as my forward bases. These islands need to be reinforced, forts build, and PBY's brought forward. CV’s ---------------- Will be split into single ship task Forces and grouped and either cover the build-up in the South Pacific or cover the north's the Aleutian Islands. Submarines ---------------- Will harass the DEI area and try to slow down the offensive in this area as much as possible. New Boats will begin operation off of Japan (just enough to keep him honest), and the rest head to the South/Southwest Pacific.

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 4:46:54 PM)
BBfanboy As Always you are correct... when we post some of the action to date everyone will see some fireworks.... [;)]

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 4:57:35 PM)
7 December 1941 Executive Summary The War Begins, one major Port Strike at Pearl as this Historical First Turn is ON. We lost the Tennessee and West Virginia. Raiding A submarine attack near Kota Bharu at 53,77 ::: Allied Ships xAKL Dai Tung, Shell hits 19, heavy fires, heavy damage. Allied Naval Forces US Carries USN CAR DIV 1 (Enterprise), USN CAR DIV 2 (Lexington) are in-route to a location southeast of Peral Harbor. KB and Mini-KB KB near Pearl after Port Stike. Mini-KB Location is unknown. China A mess of units moving to hold x3 locations and establish a line to hold forward; I expect this is a mistake, but I am going to give it a shot. Forces moving to Ichang to attack. Japanese Amphibious Landings: Amphibious Assault at Batan Island (85,70). Amphibious Assault at Kota Bharu (51,75). Japan Conquerors the Following Bases: Japanese forces CAPTURE Batan Island !!! Allies Amphibious Landings: None. Allies Conquerors the Following Bases: None. [image]local://upfiles/23360/0F455A724E1F4215B00583D22372431D.jpg[/image]

RangerJoe -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 4:58:49 PM)
Lowpe's opponent has said that playing him is very educational![;)]

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 5:01:38 PM)
Pearl Harbor Details..... The Battle Fleet is hit hard... Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor, at 180,107 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 115 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 38 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 68 B5N2 Kate x 144 D3A1 Val x 126 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged A6M2 Zero: 11 destroyed by flak B5N2 Kate: 8 damaged B5N2 Kate: 5 destroyed by flak D3A1 Val: 6 damaged D3A1 Val: 4 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 52 damaged P-40B Warhawk: 6 destroyed on ground B-17D Fortress: 34 damaged B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground PBY-5 Catalina: 91 damaged PBY-5 Catalina: 11 destroyed on ground P-36A Mohawk: 14 damaged P-36A Mohawk: 2 destroyed on ground SBD-1 Dauntless: 30 damaged SBD-1 Dauntless: 7 destroyed on ground O-47A: 7 damaged O-47A: 2 destroyed on ground A-20A Havoc: 13 damaged A-20A Havoc: 2 destroyed on ground B-18A Bolo: 31 damaged B-18A Bolo: 7 destroyed on ground R3D-2: 2 damaged B-17E Fortress: 18 damaged B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground F4F-3 Wildcat: 4 damaged F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed on ground C-33: 4 damaged OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 2 destroyed Allied Ships BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage BB Arizona, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage DM Breese BB California, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 6, on fire BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CL Phoenix, Torpedo hits 2, on fire BB Nevada, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage DM Ramsay AV Curtiss DM Montgomery, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Detroit, Bomb hits 3 BB West Virginia, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk CM Oglala BB Maryland, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 8, on fire, heavy damage DD Jarvis, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CL Helena, Bomb hits 1 DD Monaghan, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk PC Taney, Bomb hits 1 SS Cachalot, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires CA New Orleans, Torpedo hits 1 SS Narwhal, Bomb hits 1 Allied ground losses: 33 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Repair Shipyard hits 3 Airbase hits 45 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 78 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 100 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 25 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Port Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 8 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 100 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb 5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 22 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Port Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 9 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet City Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 18 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Port Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 13 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb 11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 9 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 18 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb CAP engaged: 18th PG/73rd PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes Training flight from 18th PG/73rd PS has been caught up in attack

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 5:06:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Lowpe's opponent has said that playing him is very educational![;)] RangerJoe -- thanks I am finding him to have a very strategic mind. He had mentioned he had a second game going as well but I was not sure who it was with.

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 5:08:08 PM)
Ship Losses on December 7th. [image]local://upfiles/23360/8543D52FF460429183DD215CF59F5EFD.jpg[/image]

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 5:09:34 PM)
Air Losses on December 7th. [image]local://upfiles/23360/A41A851F3DBA47A1B053F71F2DD84DD2.jpg[/image]

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 5:22:59 PM)
Force Z Having not played Historical 1st turn on, I am not used to losing Force Z... Will need to fix some of the Damage and then find a "safe" route to India... [image]local://upfiles/23360/5F02B086FC024689AFEF69DF57E630BC.jpg[/image]

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 5:27:53 PM)
Kota Bharu Attack. We are going to combine the DD's from Force Z with the CL Danae and Mauritius to see if we can catch some transports.... [image]local://upfiles/23360/63407B1CA8EE429E857B0CFB7818FA58.jpg[/image]

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 5:36:43 PM)
8 December 1941 Executive Summary Raiding (only those that have an impact) Sub attack near Midway Island at 158,92 :: Japanese Ships AO Shiriya, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage Sub attack near Muntok at 52,89 :: CL Dragon, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied Naval Forces US Carries USN CAR DIV 1 (Enterprise), USN CAR DIV 2 (Lexington) and USN CAR DIV 3 (Saratoga) are in-route to a location southeast of Peral Harbor. KB and Mini-KB KB near Pearl after Port Stike. Mini-KB Location is unknown. China Forces moving to Ichang to attack. Japanese Amphibious Landings: Amphibious Assault at Makin (136,125). Amphibious Assault at Kota Bharu (51,75). Japan Conquerors the Following Bases: Japanese forces CAPTURE Makin !!! Allies Amphibious Landings: None. Allies Conquerors the Following Bases: None.

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 5:38:17 PM)
Day Time Surface Combat, near Kota Bharu at 51,75, Range 26,000 Yards This is not the task force I was looking for.... [X(] Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Haruna CA Takao CA Atago CL Jintsu DD Asashio DD Oshio DD Michishio DD Arashio DD Akatsuki DD Hibiki Allied Ships CL Danae, Shell hits 1, on fire CL Mauritius DD Vendetta, Shell hits 1, and is sunk DM Stronghold Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions: 30,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 25,000 yards Allied TF attempts to evade combat Range increases to 26,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 26,000 yards CA Atago engages CL Mauritius at 26,000 yards Range increases to 28,000 yards BB Haruna engages CL Mauritius at 28,000 yards BB Kongo engages CL Mauritius at 28,000 yards CA Atago engages CL Mauritius at 28,000 yards CA Takao engages CL Mauritius at 28,000 yards Range increases to 29,000 yards BB Haruna engages CL Mauritius at 29,000 yards BB Haruna engages CL Danae at 29,000 yards CL Mauritius engages CA Atago at 29,000 yards Range increases to 30,000 yards BB Haruna engages CL Mauritius at 30,000 yards BB Kongo engages CL Mauritius at 30,000 yards BB Haruna engages DM Stronghold at 30,000 yards BB Haruna engages CL Mauritius at 30,000 yards BB Kongo engages CL Mauritius at 30,000 yards CA Atago engages DD Vendetta at 30,000 yards CA Takao engages CL Mauritius at 30,000 yards BB Haruna engages CL Mauritius at 30,000 yards CL Mauritius engages CA Atago at 30,000 yards BB Haruna engages DM Stronghold at 30,000 yards BB Haruna engages CL Mauritius at 30,000 yards CA Atago engages CL Mauritius at 30,000 yards CL Mauritius engages CA Takao at 30,000 yards Range closes to 29,000 yards BB Haruna engages CL Mauritius at 29,000 yards BB Haruna engages CL Danae at 29,000 yards DD Vendetta sunk by BB Haruna at 29,000 yards BB Haruna engages DM Stronghold at 29,000 yards Stephens, W.D. orders Allied TF to disengage Task forces break off...

RangerJoe -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 5:58:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rook749 quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Lowpe's opponent has said that playing him is very educational![;)] RangerJoe -- thanks I am finding him to have a very strategic mind. He had mentioned he had a second game going as well but I was not sure who it was with. Here is the link: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4872535

RangerJoe -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 6:00:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rook749 Kota Bharu Attack. We are going to combine the DD's from Force Z with the CL Danae and Mauritius to see if we can catch some transports.... [image]local://upfiles/23360/63407B1CA8EE429E857B0CFB7818FA58.jpg[/image] Don't go there. Bombers from Indochina as well as a lot of IJN surface Naval TFs. Think, Borneo to Kendari to Ambon.

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 6:39:49 PM)
9 & 10 December 1941 Executive Summary The thundering heard from Manila went south on the 8th of December, a few ships went east so let's hope it holds the Mini-KB and allows for most of the forces to getaway. Raiding (only those that have an impact) Submarine attack near Lingga at 51,87 :: Allied Ships xAKL Sibolga, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage Submarine attack near Niuafo'ou at 139,160 :: Allied Ships TK Gulfdawn, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage Submarine attack near Tandjoengpinang at 50,85 :: Allied Ships CL Dragon, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage Submarine attack near Toboali at 51,93 :: Allied Ships AG Canopus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Submarine attack near Toboali at 50,95 :: Allied Ships xAP Kota Agoeng, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Submarine attack near Billiton at 53,92 :: Allied Ships xAKL De Klerk, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Submarine attack near Billiton at 54,94 :: Allied Ships xAKL Kwangtung, Shell hits 8, heavy fires Submarine attack near Billiton at 52,92 :: Japanese Ships SS I-121, hits 15, and is sunk Sub attack near Niuafo'ou at 139,160 :: Allied Ships TK Gulfdawn, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Sub attack near San Francisco at 206,93 :: Japanese Ships: SS I-19, hits 1 :: Allied Ships CV Saratoga; DD Talbot; DD Kilty; DD Crane; DD Kennison[:-] Submarine attack near Soc Trang at 60,74 Japanese Ships xAKL Nittatsu Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Submarine attack near Toboali at 51,93 :: Japanese Ships SS I-156, hits 1 :: Allied Ships xAKL De Haan, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage Allied Naval Forces US Carries USN CAR DIV 1 (Enterprise), USN CAR DIV 2 (Lexington) and USN CAR DIV 3 (Saratoga) are in-route to a location southeast of Pearl Harbor. KB and Mini-KB KB returning via Midway Pearl after Port Stike. Mini-KB Location is east of the Philippine Islands. China Forces moving to Ichang to attack. Japanese Amphibious Landings: Amphibious Assault at Aparri (82,73) Amphibious Assault at Tarawa (136,128) Japan Conquerors the Following Bases: Japanese forces CAPTURE Kota Bharu !!! Japanese forces CAPTURE Tarawa !!! Japanese forces CAPTURE Aparri !!! Allies Amphibious Landings: None. Allies Conquerors the Following Bases: None. [image]local://upfiles/23360/ADE1B853FFE449A0915514D6890C8514.jpg[/image]

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 6:42:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Don't go there. Bombers from Indochina as well as a lot of IJN surface Naval TFs. Think, Borneo to Kendari to Ambon. quote: on't go there. Bombers from Indochina as well as a lot of IJN surface Naval TFs. Think, Borneo to Kendari to Ambon Everyone should listen to this advice, I was hoping the battle fleet was covering these and not where I went but alas this was not the case.

RangerJoe -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 7:01:12 PM)
If that "E" TF leaving Hawaii has severely damaged ships, send them back. There are lots of IJN subs in the area, your ASW is not that good yet, and your air search is impaired from your losses.

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 7:11:44 PM)
11 & 12 December 1941 Executive Summary The thundering heard from Manila went south on the 8th of December, a few ships went east so let's hope it holds the Mini-KB and allows for most of the forces to get away (so far so good). Landings being everywhere.... Raiding (only those that have an impact) Submarine attack near Lahaina at 187,104 :: Allied Ships xAK Cynthia Olson, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Day Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 82,82, Range 17,000 Yards :: Allied Ships xAK Governor Wright, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk Sub attack near Tanegashima at 102,63 :: Japanese Ships xAKL Kensho Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Submarine attack near Bandjermasin at 61,102 :: Allied Ships xAKL Surigao, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage Submarine attack near Pamekasan at 58,106 :: Allied Ships xAK Taiyuan, Torpedo hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage Submarine attack near Soerabaja at 56,103 :: Allied Ships xAP Legaspi, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Submarine attack near Soerabaja at 56,103 :: Allied Ships xAKL Lee Sang, Shell hits 22, heavy fires, heavy damage Submarine attack near Tandjoengselor at 70,94 :: Allied Ships TK Hai Kwang, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Allied Naval Forces US Carries USN CAR DIV 1 (Enterprise), USN CAR DIV 2 (Lexington) and USN CAR DIV 3 (Saratoga) are at a location southeast of Pearl Harbor. KB and Mini-KB KB returning via Midway Pearl after Port Stike. Mini-KB Location is east of the Philippine Islands. China Forces moving to Ichang to attack. Japanese Amphibious Landings: Amphibious Assault at Aitape (95,118). Amphibious Assault at Guam (106,95). Amphibious Assault at Kudat (69,86). Amphibious Assault at Wake Island (136,98). Amphibious Assault at Wewak (96,119). Amphibious Assault at Buin (109,131). [:@] Amphibious Assault at Kavieng (106,122). Amphibious Assault at Legaspi (82,82). Amphibious Assault at Miri (64,87). Japan Conquerors the Following Bases: Japanese forces CAPTURE Kavieng !!! Japanese forces CAPTURE Legaspi !!! Japanese forces CAPTURE Wake Island !!! Japanese forces CAPTURE Aitape !!! Japanese forces CAPTURE Kudat !!! Japanese forces CAPTURE Miri !!! Japanese forces CAPTURE Wewak !!! Allies Amphibious Landings: None. Allies Conquerors the Following Bases: None. [image]local://upfiles/23360/84FE96EA80DC457FA8F36A48DDE3EDFE.jpg[/image]

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 7:14:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe If that "E" TF leaving Hawaii has severely damaged ships, send them back. There are lots of IJN subs in the area, your ASW is not that good yet, and your air search is impaired from your losses. RangerJoe -- no, it's the xAPs and transports that will dip south and then to San Francisco. I love waypoints. We also have the PBY's on 70% Naval Search and 30% Rest. The B-17D's are set to 1000' 70% ASW and 30% rest.

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 7:22:36 PM)
The Battle of Legaspi --- The MTBs from Hong Kong were moved to Manila and combined with the PT boats. On the way, the MTBs tried to interfere with the landings but to no effect (which is how PT/MTBs usually work). Looking at where his surface forces were and the fact the Mini-KB moved south to chase the thundering heard, all of the PT/MTBs were sent to deal with the landing at Legaspi. ========= Night Time Surface Combat, near Legaspi at 82,82, Range 2,000 Yards Japanese Ships CS Mizuho CS Chitose, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage --- reported sunk but I am not positive DMS W-7 DMS W-8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AMc Ataka Maru AMc Kyo Maru #1 AMc Takasago Maru PB Edo Maru PB Myoken Maru PB Saiko Maru PB Gamitsu Maru #1 PB Nichi Maru #1 PB Showa Maru #3 PB Showa Maru #5 AO Hayamoto TK Matsumoto Maru xAK Myoko Maru xAK Shinanogawa Maru xAK Shinryu Maru xAK Kanko Maru xAK Yasukawa Maru xAK Hasuna Maru xAK Meigen Maru xAK Yamafuku Maru xAKL Kakyu Maru xAP Haruna Maru Allied Ships PT-31 PT-32 PT-33 PT-34, Shell hits 3, and is sunk PT-35 PT-41 PT Q-111 PT Q-112 PT Q-113 MTB 7 MTB 8 MTB 9, Shell hits 1, and is sunk MTB 10 MTB 11 MTB 12 MTB 26 Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway Low visibility due to Rain with 35% moonlight Maximum visibility in Rain and 35% moonlight: 2,000 yards Range closes to 11,000 yards... Range closes to 10,000 yards... Range closes to 9,000 yards... Range closes to 8,000 yards... Range closes to 7,000 yards... Range closes to 6,000 yards... Range closes to 5,000 yards... Range closes to 4,000 yards... Range closes to 3,000 yards... Range closes to 2,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards MTB 7 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards PT Q-112 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards PB Showa Maru #3 engages MTB 7 at 2,000 yards PT-34 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards PB Myoken Maru engages MTB 7 at 2,000 yards MTB 26 engages DMS W-8 at 2,000 yards DMS W-7 engages MTB 7 at 2,000 yards MTB 8 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards MTB 7 engages xAK Yasukawa Maru at 2,000 yards Range increases to 3,000 yards PT-35 engages CS Chitose at 3,000 yards PT-33 engages CS Chitose at 3,000 yards PB Edo Maru engages MTB 7 at 3,000 yards MTB 26 engages CS Chitose at 3,000 yards DMS W-7 engages MTB 7 at 3,000 yards MTB 11 engages DMS W-7 at 3,000 yards MTB 9 sunk by CS Chitose at 3,000 yards AMc Kyo Maru #1 engages MTB 8 at 3,000 yards Range increases to 4,000 yards MTB 7 engages PB Gamitsu Maru #1 at 4,000 yards PT-32 engages CS Chitose at 4,000 yards PB Edo Maru engages MTB 7 at 4,000 yards MTB 11 engages CS Chitose at 4,000 yards Range closes to 2,000 yards MTB 7 engages CS Mizuho at 2,000 yards PT-41 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards PT-34 sunk by CS Chitose at 2,000 yards PT-32 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards MTB 7 engages PB Edo Maru at 2,000 yards DMS W-8 engages MTB 12 at 2,000 yards MTB 11 engages AO Hayamoto at 2,000 yards PB Showa Maru #3 engages MTB 8 at 2,000 yards CS Chitose , CS Mizuho , AO Hayamoto , TK Matsumoto Maru , xAP Haruna Maru , xAK Yamafuku Maru , xAK Meigen Maru , xAK Hasuna Maru , xAK Yasukawa Maru , xAK Kanko Maru screened from combat - escorted by PB Showa Maru #5 , PB Nichi Maru #1 , PB Saiko Maru PB Showa Maru #3 engages PT Q-113 at 2,000 yards PT Q-112 engages PB Gamitsu Maru #1 at 2,000 yards DMS W-8 sunk by PT Q-111 at 2,000 yards PT Q-112 engages PB Edo Maru at 2,000 yards DMS W-7 engages MTB 12 at 2,000 yards PT Q-111 engages xAK Myoko Maru at 2,000 yards PT Q-113 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards PT Q-112 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards PT Q-111 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards PT-33 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards PB Saiko Maru engages MTB 7 at 2,000 yards PT-31 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards MTB 26 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards DMS W-7 engages MTB 7 at 2,000 yards MTB 7 engages AO Hayamoto at 2,000 yards Hackett N. orders Allied TF to disengage PT Q-113 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards PT Q-112 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards PB Showa Maru #3 engages MTB 7 at 2,000 yards PB Nichi Maru #1 engages MTB 7 at 2,000 yards DMS W-7 engages MTB 7 at 2,000 yards MTB 7 engages TK Matsumoto Maru at 2,000 yards MTB 8 engages CS Chitose at 2,000 yards PT-32 engages xAK Yamafuku Maru at 2,000 yards MTB 7 engages xAK Myoko Maru at 2,000 yards Task forces break off... [image]local://upfiles/23360/FCB3E3482AC245C5B360FA9744AC4453.jpg[/image]

RangerJoe -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 7:23:04 PM)
Use all of your float planes on your damaged ships as well for Naval Search and ASW.

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 7:32:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Use all of your float planes on your damaged ships as well for Naval Search and ASW. 100% Agree. We are out in force hunting. While my ASW is poor without the'42 upgrades I am getting some XP and when I get the '42 Upgrades it will be a different story when I hunt the subs. It also prevents his sub from doing any real damage. [image]local://upfiles/23360/4E86EC0836A24A4B927AE9C50ED5411C.jpg[/image]

rook749 -> RE: Rook749 vs Janushm -- Third Time is the Charm..... (1/24/2021 7:32:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Use all of your float planes on your damaged ships as well for Naval Search and ASW. And the airforce.... [image]local://upfiles/23360/028C758114CA4206ACD98F108C27000C.jpg[/image]

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