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MrsWargamer -> The perfect retirement (3/14/2021 3:54:32 PM)
I suppose some of here are still young. To me 'young' is under 40 :) I consider anyone under 45 as jail bait :) Cougar I can handle. That means no younger than 50 for me :) So I'm guessing a lot of us here are either already retired, or darned close to it. I'm just wondering, what is it you'd pick if you could just have ideally what you'd like to have day after day month by month all year round. This is a variation on the usual lottery musings. If I had 50 million, I could do anything I danged well wanted, I wouldn't need to pick. So I'm just wondering, what is your ideal minimum. My ideal minimum. A tiny home on a trailer. 1/2 ton truck I guess. I don't know much, I have never driven, so it won't be me driving :) I just assume a 1/2 covers the bases. I don't know if it will be a Ford or not. I have a friend that likes them. Enough income, that gas is not even a worry. Enough income I can eat in small cafes. Enough income I can send return airfare to about 10 persons (so they can visit me somewhere in Canada during the summer). That is my dream. Not so much off the grid, as not tied to an address. Never anywhere long enough for anyone to even notice my presence. I don't wish to leave Canada. Lots of nice places around the world I'm sure. But I have all of Canada to play with. Why leave. I'm not sure how much a new Ford 1/2 ton and a custom made Tiny Home would cost. Not much really. But yearly expenses would likely be fairly light. I do amazingly well on 1169.00 a month. I think a million in the bank would be hard to get rid of for me. Gas and lunch ain't that much eh. Drive to new location in the morning. Lunch. Play computer games during the evening, or watch TV, or make a model. Enjoy yet another sunset some place new. Rinse repeat.

DeepBlack -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/14/2021 5:03:34 PM)
I used to have your fantasy back in the teen years. But, it had a particular slant. I wanted to buy a surplus tank or B-17 bomber. Did not matter which. I would strip out all the combat stuff and turn it into a traveling/flying RV. Kinda like an Oil Sheik with his 747 luxury air yacht but mine would be a military vehicle. I used to draw sketches of these silly ideas - A tank that has a cozy cot and hotplate where all the ammo had been stored. The bow MG would have a TV screen instead of the MG. That kind of thing. The reality is that such a setup would be an enormous headache to keep in service. You would literally need a team of people which kinda kills the "eccentric lone wolf" vibe that the whole enterprise aspired to. So yeah, it was an adolescent car fantasy tinged with Howard Hughes Spruce Goose megalomania. [img]https://i.imgur.com/vKu7qMi.jpg[/img] PBY conversion to flying home

RangerJoe -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/14/2021 5:28:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DeepBlack I used to have your fantasy back in the teen years. But, it had a particular slant. I wanted to buy a surplus tank or B-17 bomber. Did not matter which. I would strip out all the combat stuff and turn it into a traveling/flying RV. Kinda like an Oil Sheik with his 747 luxury air yacht but mine would be a military vehicle. I used to draw sketches of these silly ideas - A tank that has a cozy cot and hotplate where all the ammo had been stored. The bow MG would have a TV screen instead of the MG. That kind of thing. The reality is that such a setup would be an enormous headache to keep in service. You would literally need a team of people which kinda kills the "eccentric lone wolf" vibe that the whole enterprise aspired to. Get an old US Army one ton ambulance fixed up as an RV so you can take it on the very back roads. Have a trailer so you can have a four wheeler to go even farther back with a boat and/or canoe on top. Put solar panels on top of the RV as well.

Perturabo -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/14/2021 6:10:57 PM)
Getting rejuvenation therapy and becoming 20 again.

DeepBlack -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/14/2021 9:08:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RangerJoe Get an old US Army one ton ambulance fixed up as an RV so you can take it on the very back roads. Have a trailer so you can have a four wheeler to go even farther back with a boat and/or canoe on top. Put solar panels on top of the RV as well. Or just sit at home and play it. RV renovation - The game

MrsWargamer -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/15/2021 1:27:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Perturabo Getting rejuvenation therapy and becoming 20 again. Being young again has its limitations. Say you become artificially 20 again, after being 50. You will be a 20 something in a 20 something body, but you will still have a 50 something mind. You won't understand the normal 20 somethings. Everything they say and like and are doing will be strange to your ears. Everything you mention will be 30 years out of sync with them. There's nothing more distressing than hearing "who is Mick Jagger?" The Tide pod challenge completely baffles me "why the hell would you agree to do something so clearly stupidly dangerous." "Do you realize how completely stupid your outfit looks?" "You want to do what?!!" "The '90s were not the oldies, ya know." "No, I don't want to live in my parent's place." "What do you mean they don't take paper resumes?" If you are wondering, I speak from experience, in a way.

DeepBlack -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/15/2021 2:01:57 PM)
There is a movie "The Man from Earth" that touches on the downsides of immortality. It is one of my favorite Sci-Fi movies. No aliens, androids, spaceships. It is set in a solitary humble house with five or six actors who carry the plot solely through their verbal interaction. The bad thing about immortality is you never get to "retire". It has a dramatic surprise ending that is hard to anticipate. Anyone ever see it?

MrsWargamer -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/15/2021 2:49:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DeepBlack There is a movie "The Man from Earth" that touches on the downsides of immortality. It is one of my favorite Sci-Fi movies. No aliens, androids, spaceships. It is set in a solitary humble house with five or six actors who carry the plot solely through their verbal interaction. The bad thing about immortality is you never get to "retire". It has a dramatic surprise ending that is hard to anticipate. Anyone ever see it? It was a superb film. Take a pass on the one that followed it though. It ruins the magic.

Zovs -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/15/2021 2:55:47 PM)
Fly fishing, hunting moose, a cabin in the middle of nowwhere, my 2020 Ford Ranger is perfect, my wife and if possible a PC with my stupid war games on them. If I lost the PC and still had my wife, my guns and the ability to fly fish and that cabin...would not need much of anything else...IMHO...

MrsWargamer -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/15/2021 3:02:09 PM)
Immortality by any means scares the crap out of me. An eternity of hell is different from an eternity of heaven by only about a thousand years. Hell is immediately undesirable, heaven takes a while to make you realize you hate it. I'm an atheist, there is neither. But I will refuse any artificial means of forever too. No, you can't put me in a machine and let me exist forever. I want to go back to nothing eventually. I might like an extra hundred years. But, I'd rather I spent the duration as 25 years old, to be honest. My father's health declined in his last 5 years. He was trapped being attached to oxygen. It was pretty obvious, he died more from a lack of interest in living than dying from pneumonia that took him. Mom lasted several years past father. She missed him the whole time. She reached her mid 80s, and I think her clock merely ran out. I'm not afraid of dying, I'm afraid of a horrible lingering. When I go, I want it to be short and simple. If I'm due to last until 80, I want the last month to be no fuss or nonsense or pain and lingering. I won't mind being 100 as long as I can at least enjoy a nice lunch and sit quietly reading my books. I won't mind being slow and fragile. But I better at least have a mind that still works. If it turns out I'm totally wrong, and there is a God, he will find I'm not interested in his Heaven. I want to just not exist eventually. I was made in the heart of a star. And I want to go back to the nothing from where I spent billions of years unaware.

RangerJoe -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/15/2021 3:17:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zovs Fly fishing, hunting moose, a cabin in the middle of nowwhere, my 2020 Ford Ranger is perfect, my wife and if possible a PC with my stupid war games on them. If I lost the PC and still had my wife, my guns and the ability to fly fish and that cabin...would not need much of anything else...IMHO... Why would you fish for flies? [&:] Wouldn't fishing for fish be better? [:'(]

z1812 -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/15/2021 5:34:30 PM)
If my life, much as it now, could continue indefinitely I would be very happy. I wouldn't want to be immortal....though I would like to choose my own time to die.

Zovs -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/15/2021 8:10:57 PM)
Hahaha....on fishing for flies... I love the motion of the wheel and the line, in the water and the skill (which I don't have, lol) to snag a fishy...

warspite1 -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/15/2021 8:25:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: z1812 If my life, much as it now, could continue indefinitely I would be very happy. I wouldn't want to be immortal....though I would like to choose my own time to die. warspite1 The older I get, the more absurd the idea of living forever becomes (think evil Nazis in Indiana Jones for example!). When I think how much life has changed during my brief stay on the planet, I really don't feel I could cope with the change yet to come. I mean don't get me wrong, there is SO much change for the good, and a great many ways in which we live in more enlightened, diverse and inclusive times. But increasingly a lot of decisions, opinions, laws, they just leave me ever more bewildered. This is NOT a political comment, I make no comment on what specifically I am referring to, and have no wish to open that debate. Nor is it some veiled cry for help - I have no wish to depart this mortal coil just yet as I want to see my little warspites grow up. But it's just a comment I guess on one simple man's ability to cope with a world that continues to move ever faster forward. What's the old saying "Stop the world I want to get off". Thanks for listening.

Zap -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/15/2021 8:40:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: z1812 If my life, much as it now, could continue indefinitely I would be very happy. I wouldn't want to be immortal....though I would like to choose my own time to die. That was funny. I could see one keep changing the date. Oh, time is getting close. Let me just move that date back a wee bit[:)]

z1812 -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/15/2021 8:42:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: warspite1 quote: ORIGINAL: z1812 If my life, much as it now, could continue indefinitely I would be very happy. I wouldn't want to be immortal....though I would like to choose my own time to die. warspite1 When I think how much life has changed during my brief stay on the planet, I really don't feel I could cope with the change yet to come. I have generally been out of step with the conformities of life that I can avoid. I avail myself of the changes I need, or want, and avoid the rest as well as I can. The future will be full of good and bad things as the past has been. But it will be amazing............and I would love to see it.

Twotribes -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/16/2021 7:34:06 AM)
The only hing I will miss about the future is space adventures.

z1812 -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/16/2021 3:08:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Twotribes The only hing I will miss about the future is space adventures. Since we don't know what the future may bring, it is impossible to know what we may miss....... Holographic wargaming anyone? A Robotic friend to play wargames with when no human ones are available. .....of course on the negative side, we may be made to wear white jumpsuits and endlessly repeat, " only the protectors know ".

Orm -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/16/2021 3:51:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: z1812 .....of course on the negative side, we may be made to wear white jumpsuits and endlessly repeat, " only the protectors know ". And what if you were one of the protectors? [;)] [:D]

DeepBlack -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/16/2021 7:31:01 PM)
(edited for clarity) I'm staring at something but cannot quite make it out. I glance over to where I keep my eyeglasses. I do not see them there. I get up and look at the other place I keep my glasses. Nope! Not there either. I grope about blindly without success, pulse quickening with anxiety each passing moment. "Hmmm, maybe I threw them away somehow?" Start digging through the trash, pushing aside yucky coffee grounds and slimey egg shells. I press my palms against my face to stave off the headache I feel coming on. Discover my glasses perched on top of my nose, where they had been all along.

DeepBlack -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/16/2021 11:57:38 PM)
double post

AbwehrX -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/18/2021 8:47:04 PM)
Mrs, Youre not the narrator here are you?? [:D] Divine Right discussion and sample turn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXbhVNVta7U

RangerJoe -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/18/2021 9:00:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DeepBlack (edited for clarity) I'm staring at something but cannot quite make it out. I glance over to where I keep my eyeglasses. I do not see them there. I get up and look at the other place I keep my glasses. Nope! Not there either. I grope about blindly without success, pulse quickening with anxiety each passing moment. "Hmmm, maybe I threw them away somehow?" Start digging through the trash, pushing aside yucky coffee grounds and slimey egg shells. I press my palms against my face to stave off the headache I feel coming on. Discover my glasses perched on top of my nose, where they had been all along. +1[:D]

MrsWargamer -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/18/2021 9:57:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AbwehrX Mrs, Youre not the narrator here are you?? [:D] Divine Right discussion and sample turn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXbhVNVta7U No that is not me. Sadly this is not me as well https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8oGa4yQeXZNia2fc_y2wmw Nor is she :) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCENdAUC6K56fiTORZBTqt8A And I really admire her https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1yNl2E66ZzKApQdRuTQ4tw

wodin -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/18/2021 10:24:24 PM)
To be able to pay my bills and keep my home warm and a small some a month to be able to spend on my hobbies plus the funds to keep my PC relatively upto date. I'm 50 in August and the feeling of mortality has never been so strong for me.

Perturabo -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/19/2021 7:51:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer quote: ORIGINAL: Perturabo Getting rejuvenation therapy and becoming 20 again. Being young again has its limitations. Say you become artificially 20 again, after being 50. You will be a 20 something in a 20 something body, but you will still have a 50 something mind. You won't understand the normal 20 somethings. Everything they say and like and are doing will be strange to your ears. Everything you mention will be 30 years out of sync with them. There's nothing more distressing than hearing "who is Mick Jagger?" The Tide pod challenge completely baffles me "why the hell would you agree to do something so clearly stupidly dangerous." "Do you realize how completely stupid your outfit looks?" "You want to do what?!!" "The '90s were not the oldies, ya know." "No, I don't want to live in my parent's place." "What do you mean they don't take paper resumes?" If you are wondering, I speak from experience, in a way. Well, I feel like that since I was 15, so there isn't much difference. I no longer intentionally listen to music but when I used to, 90% of what I was listening was released in the last decade and most of it by singers younger than me. At some point in my 20s I discovered that bands tend to burn out after several albums so I made it a habit to find new musicians to listen to frequently.

gwgardner -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/19/2021 12:56:54 PM)
I'd like to have a room large enough, and safe from grandkids, where I could lay out some of the old SPI wargames - those multi-map games like War in Europe (my favorite game of all time). I haven't been able to play one of those for 40 years.

Orm -> RE: The perfect retirement (3/20/2021 6:24:19 AM)
My ideal minimum is having enough money to go on without having to worry about money. Enough to buy myself the necessities of life, and a new book once in a while. And a new game when the old ones bore me.

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