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Harrybanana -> RE: sub/naval attack questions (5/6/2021 12:03:49 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Christolos
I thought subs and ship units had to be in Fleet mode to directly attack other ships, but I guess this is only to attack by interception/interdiction within a 5 hex radius.
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From the screen shot above, the selected sub fleet can indeed attack an enemy fleet while in raider mode. My questions are:
1) Does this mean the defending fleet is in fleet mode?
Your sub cannot attack the enemy fleet as a fleet (whether sub or not) has to be in Fleet mode to attack another fleet. Although it may look like you can make the sub attack in your screenshot, if you actually clicked to try and make the attack the game program would pop up with a message that you need to be in Fleet Mode. Alternatively, if you are able to attack while in Raider mode than this is a bug.
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2)Could it be attacked too like this if it were in raider mode?
Subs in Raider mode cannot be attacked by enemy fleets (including CVS) unless they are in or adjacent to a coastal hex. But they can be attacked by enemy air units. Of course the air unit would have to spot it first and a Fleet (whether sub or surface) in Raider Mode is less likely to be spotted than a fleet in Fleet mode.
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3a)Does a sub, or a surface fleet for that matter, in raider mode do less damage attacking a fleet that it can reach to attack, than it could if it were set to fleet mode first?
As above neither subs nor surface fleets can attack while in Raider mode.
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)Does it matter what mode the defending fleet is in?
An enemy Fleet in Raider mode is much less likely to be spotted (and therefore attacked) than a Fleet in Fleet mode. But if combat does happen I do not believe there is any difference in the amount of damage done to either fleet. In other words, the only effect of Raider mode is to reduce the likelihood of combat.
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4)What are the consequences of being in fleet mode in terms of what can directly attack the sub back (i.e., losses due to the defending ships fighting back) or in the next turn by land-based air versus being in raider mode? I suppose it would still just be land-based air units in range that could attack it next turn, right?
I am not sure as I understand your question. The main differences between having a Surface Fleet (not a sub) in fleet mode and Raider mode are:
a) In Raider mode you will not attempt to intercept enemy fleets moving within 5 hexes.
b) In Raider mode you are less likely to be spotted/attacked by enemy Fleets and air units,
c) In Raider mode you cannot conduct any offensive operations except attacking Convoys/Merchant ships (except maybe also shore bombardment, I am not sure about that).
Note that if you move a surface Fleet in Raider Mode within 5 hexes of an enemy fleet (whether surface or sub) that is in Fleet Mode it will get a chance to intercept you. But if you are in Raider Mode it will have less chance to find/attack you than if you are in Fleet Mode.
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Also, sub units would not be attacking any convoys in fleet mode (even if on a convoy lane) so they would also not be attacked by escorts or with the bonus of having a CV or DD group on the convoy lane, right?
Wrong. So long as they are on a convoy lane subs (and surface fleets) will perform a convoy attack.
I'm still trying to figure out the naval game...[8|]
Thanks,
C
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