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lion_of_judah -> map making? (6/1/2021 10:36:36 PM)

I had thought there was a program to import PNG or jpeg images of maps in order for one to make a map. Thanks



Simon Edmonds -> RE: map making? (6/2/2021 12:37:11 AM)

There is a thing called hex thingy that works quite well. I can send you a copy if you like



Ratbag55 -> RE: map making? (6/2/2021 1:27:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Simon Edmonds

There is a thing called hex thingy that works quite well. I can send you a copy if you like


Would you mind sending to me as well please?

Thanks!



Rescue193 -> RE: map making? (6/2/2021 9:19:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Simon Edmonds

There is a thing called hex thingy that works quite well. I can send you a copy if you like

quote:

There is a thing called hex thingy that works quite well. I can send you a copy if you like


Could you please add me to the list as well? Thanks.



larryfulkerson -> RE: map making? (6/2/2021 1:44:08 PM)

You may want to consider moving the EXE to a file server ( File dropper is what I use: https://www.filedropper.com/ )
and just post the link here on the forum.



Simon Edmonds -> RE: map making? (6/3/2021 12:10:27 AM)

Here is the link to where I found it in the first place
https://www.desperationmorale.com/play-aids/#contributors-section



lion_of_judah -> RE: map making? (6/3/2021 5:13:07 PM)

thanks for the reply. I had thought there was a OOD application that one could run and make the map that way.



Lobster -> RE: map making? (6/3/2021 9:18:13 PM)

http://yves.lr.pagesperso-orange.fr/ODD/ODD.htm



nepos2 -> RE: map making? (6/4/2021 9:28:53 AM)


Hello!

Another good program for map making is HexDraw.(www.hexdraw.com)

Regards,
Henrik



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golden delicious -> RE: map making? (6/4/2021 10:03:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lobster

http://yves.lr.pagesperso-orange.fr/ODD/ODD.htm


I can't believe Yves AKA Biohazard's page is still up after all these years.

From memory, ODD introduces a slight drift in the hex- and you're at the mercy of whatever one map you took as a base. If you're really serious about mapping, you'll get Bob's Latlong utility, as this plots every hex on your map as a latitude and longtitude reference which can then be used to refer to any map (and you'll want several to cover all the different elements of the map properly- I used five or six different source maps for Fall Grau). Note that Google Earth shows the co-ordinates of the mouse pointer at all times.



Lobster -> RE: map making? (6/4/2021 3:22:52 PM)

He keeps hanging around. [:)]



biddrafter2 -> RE: map making? (6/4/2021 11:41:04 PM)

QGIS is an interesting, and free, option. Have not experimented with old maps but there is no reason you could not georeference them and overlay a hex grid, with projection.



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cathar1244 -> RE: map making? (6/5/2021 9:00:08 AM)

Biddrafter, that looks neat. I just downloaded QGIS, but looking at some tutorials ... wow, what a learning curve.

Are you familiar with QGIS? Any chance you could write us a tutorial on how to load an external map image (say, a .jpg or .png) into QGIS, georeference the image, and overlay a hex grid?

Cheers



Lobster -> RE: map making? (6/5/2021 12:27:55 PM)

Wow. Nice. Now I have to learn how to get rid of the borders in the WW2 .map files and it's good to go. [8D]


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nepos2 -> RE: map making? (6/5/2021 1:45:15 PM)

Hex Draw in progress...



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biddrafter2 -> RE: map making? (6/5/2021 7:47:07 PM)

I've used QGIS a few times for personal projects but never for TOAW mapping. But it did occur to me as I was reading this thread that it might be an option... the screenshot above took less than five minutes to make because it is using the USGS current data.

If I have time this weekend I'll see if I can georef some old example maps. Although perhaps Lobster has done so in a subsequent post?



Simon Edmonds -> RE: map making? (6/6/2021 3:50:14 AM)

Does any one know if there is a .kml type file to use with "Open Topo" maps to put a hex grid over them?



cathar1244 -> RE: map making? (6/6/2021 6:17:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: biddrafter2

I've used QGIS a few times for personal projects but never for TOAW mapping. But it did occur to me as I was reading this thread that it might be an option... the screenshot above took less than five minutes to make because it is using the USGS current data.

If I have time this weekend I'll see if I can georef some old example maps. Although perhaps Lobster has done so in a subsequent post?


Thanks for any hints. I haven't been a total slug. I installed QGIS 3.16, and loaded a .jpg into the georeferencer. Was able to enter coordinates for several towns. But when it put the data into the main QGIS window, the map was squashed a bit vertically and stretched horizontally. Probably boils down to which projection to use, but the ones suggested in an online tutorial weren't getting the job done. Then I experimented with a hex grid, but the hexes were far too large and not transparent, so they just overlaid the entire image to where it couldn't be viewed. [:'(]

I can RTFM, but it is huge and I'm not sure it will address things like intelligently choosing a projection for imported maps; i.e., the practical bits needed to convert a scanned map to something that can be used to guide map making in a wargame editor.

Cheers



biddrafter2 -> RE: map making? (6/7/2021 5:10:57 AM)

I ran out of time this weekend to come up with anything useful, but did look at a few maps and realized source projection documentation will be a problem. It might be solvable by registering a crap-ton of points in the old map (especially around the edges of the image) and inferring the projection. I hope so because none of the old maps I looked at today had a listed projection. That isn't very nice!

Do you have any source maps that you are looking at in particular? You can PM me a link if you'd like. I can't promise I'll get to this, as the day job is busy, but I'll try to take a look.



cathar1244 -> RE: map making? (6/7/2021 3:18:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: biddrafter2

Do you have any source maps that you are looking at in particular?


Hi Biddrafter2,

No, what I did is grab a screenshot from Open Topo Map and save it as a .jpg.

I have a map-making program that is a lot smaller than QGIS. It can generate maps, but I have to generate a hex grid and overlay it as a transparent overlay. I was hoping QGIS would be a more direct solution (and it may be), but I have to get more familiar with it, especially the projections aspect.

Cheers



lion_of_judah -> RE: map making? (6/7/2021 7:11:19 PM)

wow..... thanks for all the advice on this, appreciate it!



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