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mind_messing -> RE: Logistics in the Pacific - USSAmerica (A), Mike (J) (8/10/2021 2:59:22 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
Oscar - 3 - to the III. I can be persuaded to dump this line altogether and just take them as they come. It's mainly for the range. I hate Oscars. Can't keep them alive. All 3 will remain R&D.
Tojo - 6 - to the IIc. I really like the Tojo IIc. It served me very well in the last game. Three will become operational and 3 will remain R&D.
IMO if there's anything to dump it should be the Tojo, but I've been banging the drum on that enough in this thread.
Oscar is pretty essential as it gives you something in the IJA that has reasonably long legs, which is key for the eastern section of the map where distances are.
Operationally, you need to be quite disciplined in how you use Oscars to get the best from them. I keep them sitting exceptionally low, and with good pilots and their fantastic MVR, they can get good outcomes against substantially better Allied planes. After 1942 they are primarily defensive planes, but they do yeoman like work in the CAP furballs at 1-3k altitude.
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George - 12 - to the K5. Three will become operational with the K1 and the remaining 9 will advance through the K2 to the K5.
Is R&D'ing all the way to the K5 with 9 factories worth it? I've felt that the initial benefit of the George comes from the first model, the subsequent two aren't really that much of an improvement compared to the first.
I'd take the first model and move the 9 on to the Shinden. That will do more for the IJNAAF than a slightly better version of the George will.
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Zero: I want the A6M3a (range) and A6M5c (armor) models to use. I don't care about the rest. This is primarily for the carriers, with the 3a in a secondary role there. The 5c using drop tanks does a nice job.
What specific advantage are you hoping to get from the extra range of the M3a using them in carriers?
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I'm not bothering with the Peggy (T). I have no R&D factories to allocate to it and I have plenty of other R&D projects that will need factories down the line. They arrive 9/44 so there won't be any IJAAF torpedo trained pilots until the end of 44. To late, in my opinion, to matter.
That's a mistake IMO.
You want the Peggy anyways as it's faster and longer legged than the Helen.
The torpedo is a nice bonus, and one that you can take advantage of with appropriate planning.
By 1944 you should be swimming in trained IJA bombing pilots, so assuming a 3 month advance on the Peggy T, you can start training NavT on already trained pilots. This will enable you to get pilots able to conduct torpedo attacks effectively in a comparatively short space of time, and boost this as more Peggy squadrons come online.
The other side of the coin is that in the context of 1944 and 1945, the IJN alone will not be able to sustain the losses of trained torpedo bomber pilots and so any weight the IJA can carry (with their increased training capacity) will give the IJN more resilience. Simply put, there are too many demands for IJN torpedo bomber pilots (carrier squadrons, 1E land-based, 2E land-based) and this will get worse as the war progresses and depending on aiframe choice (e.g you want to use the Grace as a multirole).
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Night fighters. *Sigh* They all suck. I chose the Dinah and Myrt mainly because of the speed.
They do all suck.
Dinah seems the most realistic bet for the IJA. The Myrt didn't impress me, I might try the Frances NF going forward in the hopes a more durable airframe will get more mileage.
Some omissions that are key in my mind are:
- IJN recon: The Myrt recon version is a real gem and needs to be brought forward. 29 hex range and radar. Effectively a 4E patrol boat with much less cost that you can run off of carriers. The Judy recon comes early enough that you don't need to R&D that, but the Myrt is a must-have. 29 hexes of naval search is great, 29 hexes of recon is fantastic. For context, you can recon Colombo from Rangoon with that kind of range.
- IJN 2E: Nothing on the P1Y2 Frances seems absolutely insane to my mind. The Y1 model has an SR of 4, so is very hard to use. The more useful Y2 model arrives in 11/44, and it is absolutely essential that it arrives as early in 1944 as it can. The Betty and Nell are simply far to slow (not to mention unarmoured) to be on the frontlines in 1943 and beyond.
- IJA Heavy fighter: I'd like to see the Randy A. If only to supplement the NF squadrons, as you just don't have enough of them to go around.
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