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carlkay58 -> RE: Turn 03 (8/24/2021 8:16:46 PM)

T05 AGS:

Odessa is now isolated by both land and sea. I will maintain that isolation for a few turns while Rumanian troops gather to capture the city. I have better uses for the German 11th Army than hitting a city fort. I have not hit the Stalin Line forts because I do not want to waste the CPP it would cost to destroy it. Fort units surrender if isolated so there is no sense to attack them.



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carlkay58 -> RE: Turn 03 (8/24/2021 8:17:12 PM)

T05 Cleanup:

Unfortunately the Norwegian AIR DAY has only hit 89%. It looks like it may take another two Flak regiments to bring it up close to 100%. Africa is now my problem theater with Ground at 89% and AIR DAY at 94%.

I move up the fighters and recon closer to the front.

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carlkay58 -> RE: Turn 03 (8/24/2021 8:24:53 PM)

T05 Motorization Commentary:

So far I have examined the effects of motorizing an infantry division for the first turn only and three infantry divisions for four turns. To find that it has caused about 4K more vehicle damage over those four turns is rather disturbing. First because it is an increase of about 20% in truck damage. Second it is the first four turns of the campaign and the Axis will not see those trucks come back until late spring of 42 at the earliest. This means I have 4K less trucks for the rest of 41 and the winter of 42 ALREADY. That is a big cost to the Axis.

What did I get in return? I got a bit further against Smolensk so far and had more power in PG 4 for helping AGN advance. Except the AI really doubled down on trying to stop AGN from advancing with probably the most units I have seen it committ to defending against AGN in a long time. But I will also admit that I have limited the XII Corps to mostly guarding PG 2's flank and not really had them on the cutting edge of the thrust. Someone like HLYA or Tyronec would have 'damned the flanks' and gotten them deeper into Soviet territory and another mechanized corps can be quite effective.

I will also say that I have moved PG 1 more aggressively and effectively this game and that may have attributed to some of the additional truck damage but over 4K is still a lot of trucks.




2ndACR -> RE: Turn 03 (8/24/2021 11:19:40 PM)

I motorize all but a single Div of 18th Army on turn 1. Set to go back to regular infantry turn 2.

Turn 3, I motorize 1st Panzer Infantry Corps and sometimes an additional one for them to reach the front, which is usually over the Dnepr and cutting off Kiev. The go back to regular the next turn.

Have not seen that level of truck loss/damage in my games. But I don't think I have ever left them motorized multiple turns. I just need the infantry to the front faster. I use a single Panzer Corp to finish cutting off the Lvov pocket on turn 2. Everyone else, including one of PZ2 Corps, the one with the Lehr Regiment plow directly at Kiev, and usually over the Dnepr and cutting off Kiev on turn 3. 2nd Panzer Corps then heads back north, 90% of the time to assist taking Gomel area. I keep my advance towards Kiev above the normal double rail from Rostov. But I do dip down some to expand my advance some. Usually by turn 4-5 very few units get motorized. Maybe 17th Army units that were clearing the Lvov pocket to allow them to get to the front.



GibsonPete -> RE: Turn 03 (8/25/2021 2:16:35 AM)

My experience is similar to carlkay58 on truck damage when motorizing divisions. Depending on duration and number of units motorized, the truck pool will take a beating. The loss of trucks may create a supply issue come winter.



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