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Xargun -> Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 7:22:53 PM)
I am about to take on Nomad in a scenario 2 game and tbh its been a looong time since I last played a standard scenario. Can anyone give me some hints as to the change between base (scenario 1) and scenario 2? I tried to download the zip file from Andy's post on the forum but the zip is bad (unless I was downloading the wrong one). Oh - if anyone wonders I am playing my usual Japan :) Thanks Xargun

btd64 -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 7:36:09 PM)
Where in Ohio? I'm at Lancaster....GP

Evoken -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 7:46:00 PM)
Changes i noticed so far; 3 Extra Infantry Divisions and 1 Extra Tank Division , they arrive around May A lot more squadrons , idk the exact number. Shinano arrives as a Taiho class instead of halfass converted Yamato , a lot more support ships, Destroyers etc More Supply and Fuel at forward bases at start

Xargun -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 7:55:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: btd64 Where in Ohio? I'm at Lancaster....GP Lol - no way... me too :) Xargun

btd64 -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 8:00:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Xargun quote: ORIGINAL: btd64 Where in Ohio? I'm at Lancaster....GP Lol - no way... me too :) Xargun How about that. We should have coffee....GP

Xargun -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 8:01:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: btd64 quote: ORIGINAL: Xargun quote: ORIGINAL: btd64 Where in Ohio? I'm at Lancaster....GP Lol - no way... me too :) Xargun How about that. We should have coffee....GP Don't drink coffee but we can surely meet for something :) Xargun

btd64 -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 8:03:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Xargun quote: ORIGINAL: btd64 quote: ORIGINAL: Xargun quote: ORIGINAL: btd64 Where in Ohio? I'm at Lancaster....GP Lol - no way... me too :) Xargun How about that. We should have coffee....GP Don't drink coffee but we can surely meet for something :) Xargun I'll pm you....GP

Xargun -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 8:06:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Evoken Changes i noticed so far; 3 Extra Infantry Divisions and 1 Extra Tank Division , they arrive around May A lot more squadrons , idk the exact number. Shinano arrives as a Taiho class instead of halfass converted Yamato , a lot more support ships, Destroyers etc More Supply and Fuel at forward bases at start ok - so nothing crazy like moving industry around and such? Extra toys are nice. Xargun

GetAssista -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 8:58:12 PM)
Some R&D dates are pushed forwards, like Tojo. Don't know about current R&D paths. If you play with updated AI files then Andy tried some serious tinkering with R&D at some point and not all of it was good so not all made it to the final update.

RangerJoe -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 10:08:00 PM)
It also depends upon the original scenario 2 or the one that he has been working on some more.

Andy Mac -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 11:14:33 PM)
OK changes in base Scen 2 from memory 1. Truk starts Post size 7 not 6 as in Scen 1 2. From memory Indo China has a few more resources - cannot remember why it was 10 years ago !! 3. Batavia gets a small refinery size 20 I think 4. Cannot fully remember there are extra air/Engine factories at Harbin 7 or 8 size 5 ish factories 5. LAND Japan gets fictional 21st Army - has to build it so its not free it it arrives over 1st year of war 3 Inf Divs 1 Tank Div 1 Tank Bde 1 Para Regt 1 Amphib Regt 11 x Militia/Local Levy Regts to allow for garrison requirements to be met - these are useless in combat but free up other units and are perm restricted so limited use Naval Shinano as a Taiho Extra Unryu in 5/46 no organic air group I assume you will have plenty of naval air to put on her by then A few more xAKs/xAP's c 20 I think 3 tankers 2 Oilers about 30 - 35 extra escorts a mix of E's/DMS's and Matsu class DD's over course of war 3 x Flotillas of light ships 1 x Agano and 6 good DD's each year over 1st 3 years About 80 suicide PT Boats in 1945 if you get that far Industry +450k HI at start +50k Amr +50k vehicles + Larger Repair Yards at Tokyo + Larger Refinery + Larger Oil + Larger Arm Factory Total of 109 Air Factories on map v 97 in Scen 1 mostly small production factories I thin R&D is the same + 100k Fuel and Supply @ Samah and Truk and 50k of each at Kwajalein +45 Oil at Tokyo AIR + 50 A6M2/Kate in pool +80 Oscar 1a in pool Oh and the 1945 Japanese CVE's start with organic airgroups - Claudes in 45 from memory....(that was more of a you have got to be f**** kidding me moment between me as AI lead and the Naval and Air teams !!!) - They are correct historically those small CVE's did NOT have organic air groups.....BUT the AI will not put air groups on carriers if they dont arrive with them but WILL use the CVE's as though they do have air groups.....sigh - have I ever mentioned DONT play scen 1 v the Ai.....this is why - having a scenario thats good v Ai and good v PBEM is f**** impossible) I have a feeling there was an additonal Oscar Sqn as well but cannot find it Most of this was a LONG time ago !!! Andy

Andy Mac -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 11:17:29 PM)
I always assume the latest Scen 2

Andy Mac -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/28/2021 11:21:13 PM)
PM me your email address and I will send you the latest one quote: ORIGINAL: Xargun I am about to take on Nomad in a scenario 2 game and tbh its been a looong time since I last played a standard scenario. Can anyone give me some hints as to the change between base (scenario 1) and scenario 2? I tried to download the zip file from Andy's post on the forum but the zip is bad (unless I was downloading the wrong one). Oh - if anyone wonders I am playing my usual Japan :) Thanks Xargun

rustysi -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/30/2021 5:45:36 PM)
Add to the above the Tojo uses the Ha-35 in scenario two as opposed to the Ha-34 in scenario one. This should change your R&D choices. No Helen? Sally should suffice until something comes along later .

Lowpe -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/30/2021 5:59:32 PM)
More research facilities right? Hokkaido has a bunch... Shipyards are bigger...especially Tokyo. I feel that other industry is larger as well...just can't remember.

Andy Mac -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/30/2021 6:40:27 PM)
Aye it is it was 12 years ago i wrote that scenario soi I forgot a few things updated now !!

Andy Mac -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/30/2021 6:42:47 PM)
The Tojo thing got changed in one of the patches cannot remember which so its no longer in there

Xargun -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/30/2021 6:47:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Andy Mac PM me your email address and I will send you the latest one I got a copy from Nomad - thanks for the list of changes. I appreciate it. Xargun

rustysi -> RE: Scenario 2 (8/30/2021 6:53:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Andy Mac The Tojo thing got changed in one of the patches cannot remember which so its no longer in there I've only played scenario 1. Did not know that, thanks.

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