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Andy Mac -> RE: CARNAGE OFF PEARL (10/12/2021 6:18:07 PM)
When used correctly the Gearings and Tribals have been great ie when supported by a Cruiser or BB/BC they are devastating The Tribals are very good gunships not so good torpedo boats so I would maybe mix it up and take a few Battle class instead to give that torp punch Gearings are good if properly supported but they cannot handle the big Japanese CA's supported by a BB on their own

Andy Mac -> RE: CARNAGE OFF PEARL (10/12/2021 6:21:16 PM)
Because he has went so deep so fast I have had to commit them not as I had planned My Plan was to have 3 strong SCTF's POW plus RN Cruisers and a mix of Tribals and Gearings Houston with the same Repulse and Boise with the same But he has moved so fast I havent had time to organise my TF's properly Only POW has the proper set up at moment and for some reason they didnt make it to Singkawang last turn

Andy Mac -> RE: CARNAGE OFF PEARL (10/15/2021 8:15:26 PM)
Ok a very interesting turn with some mixed results High and low points below AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 10, 41 POW TF FOUND A DAMAGED TF AND SANK THE LOT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 56,88, Range 12,000 Yards Japanese Ships xAK Nittei Maru, Shell hits 19, and is sunk xAK Ryugi Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAK Shoho Maru, Shell hits 23, and is sunk xAK Taibun Maru, Shell hits 35, and is sunk xAK Tatsuho Maru, Shell hits 5, and is sunk xAK Yuzan Maru, Shell hits 7, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales CL Java CL Tromp CL Danae CL Dragon CL Durban DD Van Nes DD Evertsen DD Tenedos POW TF THEN BOMBARDED SINGKAWANG AND DID SOME NICE DAMAGE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Singkawang at 56,88 Japanese Ships xAK Thames Maru, Shell hits 2 CA Chokai, Shell hits 30, on fire, heavy damage xAK Sanuki Maru, Shell hits 2 DD Sagiri, Shell hits 3, heavy fires xAK Nansin Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire xAK Uyo Maru, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships BB Prince of Wales CL Durban CL Dragon CL Danae CL Tromp CL Java DD Tenedos DD Evertsen DD Van Nes Japanese ground losses: 167 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 18 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled) Resources hits 2 Light Industry hits 2 Airbase hits 31 Airbase supply hits 23 Runway hits 74 Port hits 25 Port supply hits 14 ONE IF MY DD GROUPS FOUND THE JAPANESE COVER FORCE AND FOUGHT AN INCONCLUSIVE BATTLE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 181,107, Range 16,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Yura CL Kinu, Shell hits 1 DD Yakaze, Shell hits 1 DD Yukaze DD Wakatake DD Kuretake CL Teshio, Shell hits 1 Allied Ships DM Gamble, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DM Breese, Shell hits 23, and is sunk DM Tracy, Shell hits 13, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 181,107, Range 19,000 Yards Japanese Ships CL Yura CL Kinu DD Yakaze DD Yukaze, Shell hits 1 DD Wakatake DD Kuretake, Shell hits 1 CL Teshio Allied Ships DD Bagley, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Blue DD Helm, Shell hits 1 DD Mugford DD Case, Shell hits 1 DD Aylwin MY SECOND DD TF FOUND THE PRIZE A BIT OF A WASTE OF AKS AND I ASSUME A GOOD BOOST TO MY NOGHT EXPERIENCE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 181,107, Range 16,000 Yards Japanese Ships xAK Hague Maru, Shell hits 19, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Havre Maru, Shell hits 11, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Rasin Maru, Shell hits 24, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Yamahuzi Maru, Shell hits 20, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Nansin Maru, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Mansyu Maru, Shell hits 21, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Syunsei Maru, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Yuri Maru, Shell hits 16, and is sunk xAK Kiyo Maru, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Zuisyo Maru, Shell hits 20, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Hakusika Maru, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAK Kinryu Maru, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAK Hiyama Maru, Shell hits 36, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Reid DD Cassin, Shell hits 1 DD Selfridge DD Hull, Shell hits 1 DD Dale DD Litchfield DD Chew I PUT CAP UP TO PROTECT THE MASSED B17S FLOWN INTO PEARL IT COST ME BUT PROTECTED THE BOMBERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 13 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 18 Allied aircraft P-36A Mohawk x 13 P-40B Warhawk x 22 F2A-3 Buffalo x 1 F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed P-40B Warhawk: 2 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 3 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet * CAP engaged: UNESCORTED STRKE ON SINGAPORE MY CAP KILLED A FEW -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 31 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M2 Nell x 56 G4M1 Betty x 20 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 5 Blenheim IF x 2 Buffalo I x 17 Japanese aircraft losses G3M2 Nell: 3 destroyed, 9 damaged G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses Blenheim IF: 2 damaged Buffalo I: 1 damaged Buffalo I: 1 destroyed on ground Blenheim I: 1 destroyed on ground Hudson I: 1 destroyed on ground Allied ground losses: 20 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 12 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 15 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 26 minutes Japanese aircraft G3M2 Nell x 3 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 5 Blenheim IF x 2 Buffalo I x 10 Japanese aircraft losses G3M2 Nell: 2 destroyed No Allied losses MASSED KATE RAID ON PH WITH MY CAP UP AND FIGHTING NOT A DECISIVE STRIKE MORE DAMAGE TO ALREADY DAMAGED SHIPS BUT NO LOSSES AND MY 3 BB'S WERE IN A F TRYING TO LEAVE PORT FOR THE WEST COAST AND SOWERE SAVED THE PORT STRIKE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 107 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 35 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 30 B5N2 Kate x 93 Allied aircraft P-36A Mohawk x 2 P-40B Warhawk x 5 F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 7 damaged B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 2 CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage AD Whitney, Bomb hits 1, on fire AV Wright, Bomb hits 2, on fire CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 2, on fire AD Dobbin, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AD Rigel, Bomb hits 1, on fire CL Helena, Bomb hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 7 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Repair Shipyard hits 10 Port hits 4 Port fuel hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 25 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 12000 feet * Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb 25 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 12000 feet * Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb 15 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 12000 feet * Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb 14 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 12000 feet * City Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb 13 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 12000 feet * Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb MY COUNTERSTIKE AT SINGKAWANG TO KEEP IT CLOSED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Singkawang , at 56,88 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Allied aircraft Blenheim I x 4 Blenheim IV x 3 139WH-3 x 5 Hudson I x 6 Allied aircraft losses Blenheim I: 1 damaged Japanese Ships DD Sagiri, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CA Chokai, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage xAK Sanuki Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage Port hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Singkawang , at 56,88 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Allied aircraft Blenheim IV x 9 Hudson I x 7 Allied aircraft losses Hudson I: 1 damaged Japanese Ships CA Chokai, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage Port hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Lahaina , at 182,108 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 24 P-36A Mohawk x 7 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 24 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Airbase hits 16 Airbase supply hits 11 Runway hits 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Lahaina , at 182,108 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 0 minutes Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 8 No Allied losses Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 11 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Singkawang , at 56,88 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft B-17D Fortress x 11 No Allied losses Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 4 Aircraft Attacking: 5 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Lahaina , at 182,108 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Allied aircraft B-18A Bolo x 8 P-36A Mohawk x 6 No Allied losses Port hits 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Lahaina , at 182,108 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Allied aircraft A-20A Havoc x 5 B-17D Fortress x 5 No Allied losses Runway hits 1 Port hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Lahaina , at 182,108 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft P-40B Warhawk x 12 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Lahaina , at 182,108 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Allied aircraft P-40B Warhawk x 8 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 26 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35 Allied aircraft Martlet II x 4 Blenheim IF x 2 Buffalo I x 10 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Martlet II: 1 destroyed Blenheim IF: 1 destroyed Buffalo I: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 40 Allied aircraft P-40B Warhawk x 2 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 39 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 11000 feet * THE HIGH POINT OF THE DAY I SPRINTED TO MIDWAY PLANNING ON A PORT STRIKE SO MY SQNS HAD NAVAL ATTACK/SECIONDARY PORT ORDERS THE SWEEP WENT INTO TO TRY AND CLEAR CAP AWAY BUT THE GOOD NEWS WAS WE DIDNT HIT THE PORT BECAUSE WE FOUND BETTER -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Midway Island , at 158,91 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 21 Allied aircraft F4F-3A Wildcat x 11 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-3A Wildcat: 4 destroyed CAP engaged: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 33 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 29 B5N2 Kate x 24 Allied aircraft P-36A Mohawk x 14 P-40B Warhawk x 23 F4F-3 Wildcat x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 9 destroyed, 5 damaged B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses P-36A Mohawk: 1 destroyed P-40B Warhawk: 3 destroyed Allied Ships CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 8 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 12000 feet * Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb MUHAHAHAHAH -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kure Island at 154,94 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Allied aircraft SB2U-3 Vindicator x 17 SBD-2 Dauntless x 45 SBD-3 Dauntless x 15 TBD-1 Devastator x 25 No Allied losses Japanese Ships xAK Katuragi Maru, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Hokutai Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires xAK Yamakuni Maru, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk xAKL Hakuyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Tamashima Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Keihuku Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires xAK Hokutatsu Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Izumo Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Yomei Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk xAK Arimasan Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Seikai Maru xAK Imizu Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Nagara Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Argun Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires xAK Okuyo Maru xAK Asahisan Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Hukuzyu Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Tohuku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAK Hokumai Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk xAK Azumasan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 18941 troops, 283 guns, 217 vehicles, Assault Value = 521 Defending force 3072 troops, 87 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 50 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2 Japanese adjusted assault: 916 Allied adjusted defense: 85 Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese forces CAPTURE Hong Kong !!! Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), morale(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 106 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Allied ground losses: 4382 casualties reported Squads: 70 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 255 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 88 (88 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units destroyed 5 Assaulting units: 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment 38th Division 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment 2nd RF Gun Battalion 3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment 2nd Mortar Battalion 5th RF Gun Battalion 2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion 10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion Defending units: Rifles of Canada Battalion Winnipeg Grenadiers Battalion Kowloon Brigade 102nd RN Base Force Hong Kong Fortress -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kota Bharu (51,75) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 5228 troops, 45 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 193 Defending force 3733 troops, 35 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 78 Japanese adjusted assault: 145 Allied adjusted defense: 10 Japanese assault odds: 14 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Kota Bharu !!! Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 139 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 2277 casualties reported Squads: 148 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 122 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 29 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 34 (34 destroyed, 0 disabled) Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled) Units retreated 2 Units destroyed 1 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 41st Infantry Regiment Sasebo 8th SNLF 55th Const Co 20th AA Regiment 53rd Const Co 54th Const Co 22nd Air Flotilla 5th Field AF Construction Battalion 18th JAAF Base Force 21st JAAF AF Bn Defending units: FMSV Brigade 8th Indian Brigade 3rd ISF Base Force

Andy Mac -> RE: CARNAGE OFF PEARL (10/15/2021 8:19:50 PM)
last turn was overall very good for me. I started this game with 24 modern DD's 11 Tribals and 13 Gearings - 2 of the Tribals are Australian and have not seen action yet all the rest have and the results have been mixed so far in 4 days I have lost 4 Gearing Class - Sunk 5 Gearing Class - Crippled 4 Gearing Calss still operational 3 Tribals sunk (1 at Singapore on day 1) 6 Damaged or crippled 2 Operational (both Australian) basically I have lost 30% of my modern DD's in 4 days of war and another 50% are in yard hands (they dont take long to repair fortunately) I wish I had bought more they have made his life hell so far but at a cost

Andy Mac -> RE: CARNAGE OFF PEARL (10/15/2021 8:28:44 PM)
5 days in an no sign of mini KB and I estimate its 250 strike aircraft It could dominate norther Borneo the fact that it has not appeared anywhere in DEI tells me its en route to PH or perhaps west coast I can see a CL led TF to the north of Midway about 400 miles away no carrier aircraft but it could be mini KB Main KB is still for some weird reason south of Pearl but they could have refueled last turn given how little they moved So for once discretion is called for - i would love to pursue on sink the rest of the AK convoy BUT if that is mini KB to my north and KB could do a speed run north - I dont have fuel for another full speed run and I am low on fighters on my 2 carriers so I think its time to pull back to West Coast replenish and link up with Saratoga...... So next few turns I have decided its time to go home - Big E and Lady Lex could maybe take on mini KB alone but its not a fight I would want without Saratoga and neither Big E or Lady Lex are operating with full decks any more so I have decided to head West towards West Coast rearm and replenish and then come back in a few days for round 2. If mini KB is en route to PH then call it 400 KB aircraft plus 250 from mini KB is too much for 270 on 3 US CV's to even attempt and engagement I need to keep a fleet in being now however much I want to be aggressive Hornet isnt that far away and that will increase my effective strength - I may also transfer Indomitable and Hermes to support USN that would add another 120 to the US CV fleet sop 480 total which I would be willing to take on mini KB or KB but not both together Andy Andy

Andy Mac -> RE: Andy Mac v Hellenstrat (Variant Game) (10/16/2021 7:51:18 PM)
I hate slow games especially when I don�t get turns at the weekend when I have a load of time I need to remember to check how fast turns will be in future and maybe avoid playing streamers (I think he streams on YouTube or another platform

Nomad -> RE: Andy Mac v Hellenstrat (Variant Game) (10/16/2021 8:06:05 PM)
Interesting Andy, the first thing xargun and I agreed upon was the turn rate. 2-3 for the first 18 months or so, 1-2 for the year after and then most likely 1 per day starting in 1945. The allies have a lot of things to take care of in 1945 and 1946.

ElGuapoSlitherineSSL -> RE: Andy Mac v Hellenstrat (Variant Game) (11/1/2021 7:33:24 PM)
Allied Ships BB California, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk BB Maryland, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 6, and is sunk BB Nevada, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk BB Arizona, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Ralph Talbot, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage CM Oglala, Bomb hits 1, on fire AV Tangier, Torpedo hits 1 DD Cummings, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CL St. Louis, Torpedo hits 1 CL Raleigh, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Detroit, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Helena, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Shaw, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Man those are very heavy PH losses!!! Historically (realize you are playing a-historical) due to their positions in port BB Maryland, BB Tennessee, BB Arizona, CA New Orleans, CA San Francisco, CL St. Louis, DD Shaw, DD Cummings could not have been torpedoed. Although, I'll concede it would have been a extraordinarily slim chance for the Arizona to be torpedoed as she wasn't totally masked by the Vestal and moorings. It's a game....understand. Andy Mac, I saw a mention of an AAR you posted in which the commenter heaped praise on your operations being shaped by logistical considerations. Where might I locate that AAR? Thanks in advance.

Nomad -> RE: Andy Mac v Hellenstrat (Variant Game) (11/20/2021 4:27:40 AM)
Andy, what happened to this game? Is it still on or die the turn rate really slow down?

Andy Mac -> RE: Andy Mac v Hellenstrat (Variant Game) (12/18/2021 10:56:11 PM)
The turn rate never got up and then Hellsenstrat had somethings come up not a lot I can say I think its dead after very few turns - I live in hope but not a lot

Andy Mac -> RE: Andy Mac v Hellenstrat (Variant Game) (12/18/2021 10:57:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ElGuapoSlitherineSSL Allied Ships BB California, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk BB Maryland, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 6, and is sunk BB Nevada, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk BB Arizona, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Ralph Talbot, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage CM Oglala, Bomb hits 1, on fire AV Tangier, Torpedo hits 1 DD Cummings, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CL St. Louis, Torpedo hits 1 CL Raleigh, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Detroit, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Helena, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Shaw, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk Man those are very heavy PH losses!!! Historically (realize you are playing a-historical) due to their positions in port BB Maryland, BB Tennessee, BB Arizona, CA New Orleans, CA San Francisco, CL St. Louis, DD Shaw, DD Cummings could not have been torpedoed. Although, I'll concede it would have been a extraordinarily slim chance for the Arizona to be torpedoed as she wasn't totally masked by the Vestal and moorings. It's a game....understand. Andy Mac, I saw a mention of an AAR you posted in which the commenter heaped praise on your operations being shaped by logistical considerations. Where might I locate that AAR? Thanks in advance. It was avery old one my 1st actually v PZB - I did a LOT of things wrong in that game but my re invasion of Burma was the only thing I did right and it was all logistics

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