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wobbleguts -> Conquest of Switzerland/Poland (9/20/2021 1:45:00 PM)

Playing as UK - 1939 campaign with a few mods.

Thanks to my strategic genius, Germany and Italy have been totally defeated and promise to be good in the future. They will have to be, as the British flag is flying above Berlin and Rome.

I did conquer some other countries a bit for fun. eg, I invaded Switzerland. Took it in 1 turn and banned yodeling immediately. I was surprised to see a message that Britain was protesting about this invasion (along with the USA etc). Why would Britain protest about it's own invasion?

Then there is Poland. I reached Warsaw and liberated it before the USSR even reached the Polish borders. I was expecting the Polish flag to appear over the capitol but this didn't happen. Poland is just allied territory. I understand the political problems of Poland at the end of WW2 but the UK got there first by a long way. Why is Poland left in limbo?

Also, the 'L' option needs to be reversed from oldest to newest. I had to scroll through 70 pages to find out the British protests about the Swiss invasion hadn't been recorded. Newest to oldest would make a lot more sense.











Hubert Cater -> RE: Conquest of Switzerland/Poland (9/20/2021 2:01:52 PM)

The next patch will have the option to reverse the order of the summaries.




BillRunacre -> RE: Conquest of Switzerland/Poland (9/21/2021 8:23:40 AM)

The effect of declaring war on Switzerland is to reduce the National Morale as the public react against attacking an historically neutral power.

Poland is rather complicated and to reintroduce it into the game would require a lot of thought and various Decision Events, given the politics of what actually happened, and which you've rightly shown, wouldn't necessarily always have happened - which would complicate things further.

It is something I've pondered at times, but in addition to its complexities, as it would likely occur very near the end of the game it isn't something that has made its way into the game. There are just always so many other things that have been of much higher priority.




wobbleguts -> RE: Conquest of Switzerland/Poland (9/21/2021 10:41:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BillRunacre

The effect of declaring war on Switzerland is to reduce the National Morale as the public react against attacking an historically neutral power.


Thanks, that explains it. The message was along the lines of 'Britain protests about this invasion' and the USA (etc) said the same thing. I thought it was the government(s) complaining.

Does this mean that when I invade a country (which for political reasons I probably shouldn't) - and get these messages from foreign powers - it is just their publics opinion? ie, no shift in their government policy? Is it just a morale effect.

Also, I'm not sure invading someone they shouldn't would actually reduce British morale. The Brits love invading people. Look at their history. If anything, their morale should have gone up.

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Poland is rather complicated and to reintroduce it into the game would require a lot of thought and various Decision Events, given the politics of what actually happened, and which you've rightly shown, wouldn't necessarily always have happened - which would complicate things further.

It is something I've pondered at times, but in addition to its complexities, as it would likely occur very near the end of the game it isn't something that has made its way into the game. There are just always so many other things that have been of much higher priority.


Agreed. Poland is tricky historically. I liberated it early to make it a free state but it didn't work. The game just turned it into 'allied territory'. Declaring war on the USSR at this point would have been my preferred option.






OldCrowBalthazor -> RE: Conquest of Switzerland/Poland (9/22/2021 5:53:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hubert Cater

The next patch will have the option to reverse the order of the summaries.

Funny..I was just discussing this needed feature with someone off forum. Thanks!




BillRunacre -> RE: Conquest of Switzerland/Poland (9/22/2021 8:31:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: wobbleguts

Does this mean that when I invade a country (which for political reasons I probably shouldn't) - and get these messages from foreign powers - it is just their publics opinion? ie, no shift in their government policy? Is it just a morale effect.


Yes, if the country is already fully mobilized, then it is just an effect on National Morale.




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