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Dreamslayer -> RE: Various map issues (11/8/2021 3:04:04 PM)

Yeah.



Dreamslayer -> RE: Various map issues (11/13/2021 12:06:14 AM)

Slancy - Slantsy
Bugodoshch - Budogosch
Nebolochi - Nebolchi
Bateckaya - Batetskaya
Povenez - Povenets
Kuschereka - Kushereka



Dreamslayer -> RE: Various map issues (11/16/2021 2:05:11 PM)

Poti should has a port. It became main base of Black Sea Fleet in the end of 1941 "de facto" and in 1942 "de jure" till 1944.



Denniss -> RE: Various map issues (11/16/2021 4:47:21 PM)

Keep 'em coming, will collect issues for an update



panzer51 -> RE: Various map issues (11/28/2021 4:59:21 PM)

I added Yevlakh (RY=2, Man=1) to the map, not sure why it's not in the game in the first place at (312, 209). I got a nice anchor symbol displayed showing it's a port somehow.

Speaking of ports there seems to be a problem with adding them.

Sarande in Albania was a port (not in the game), when I add a port there is no anchor sign displayed. Another missing port is Shengjin in (174,252), same story I add a port, no anchor sign shows up. Can you update the hexes please?

Sulina in Romania and Temryuk in Russia also seem to have problems, probably because neither one is on the rail-line. Can that be fixed somehow?



panzer51 -> RE: Various map issues (11/28/2021 11:57:25 PM)

Transcaucasian railroad should have a number of double-track sections

1. Sumgait-Baku
2. Baku-Alyat (south spur)
3. Alyat-Adji-Kabul (44 km west)
4. Mugan-Padar (short section 17km shortly after Adju-Kabul)
5. Yevlakh-Akstafa (Kazakh)
6. Tbilisi hex
7. Derbent and 20km south
8. Gudermes to Makhachkala and then 15km south to Tarki



Denniss -> RE: Various map issues (12/1/2021 3:22:03 PM)

Do you have a source for this?



panzer51 -> RE: Various map issues (12/1/2021 3:47:22 PM)

Transcaucasian map



panzer51 -> RE: Various map issues (12/1/2021 3:50:50 PM)

North Caucasus RR



Denniss -> RE: Various map issues (12/1/2021 4:16:06 PM)

both maps seem to be from June 1943, ideally we need maps of 1941 at least for comparison



panzer51 -> RE: Various map issues (12/1/2021 4:46:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Denniss

both maps seem to be from June 1943, ideally we need maps of 1941 at least for comparison


Gudermes to Astrakhan was built in 1942, yet you have in the game from the beginning. So is Adler-Sukhumi.



panzer51 -> RE: Various map issues (12/1/2021 4:50:45 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Denniss

both maps seem to be from June 1943, ideally we need maps of 1941 at least for comparison


Here is Transcaucasian RR in 1937. Thick lines are double-track. After 1939 NKPS stopped showing number of tracks.



Dreamslayer -> RE: Various map issues (12/1/2021 5:13:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Denniss

both maps seem to be from June 1943, ideally we need maps of 1941 at least for comparison

This atlas published in 1943, but there is a note "The number of main ways shows as on 1 June 1941" ("Количество главных путей на дорогах показано по состоянию на 1 июня 1941 г.").



panzer51 -> RE: Various map issues (12/5/2021 12:04:06 AM)

There is a surprising number of airfields missing unnecessarily handicapping both sides.

1. Chernigov. There were 5 airfields in the area, should be added as size 2 airfield.
2. Same for Lipetsk, several airfields. 98 DBAP operated from there in the fall of 1941. Also should be size 2.
3. Rechitsa. Should also be size 2, there were at least 3 airfields around it.
4. Dretun', Lyuban' (s), Slutsk, Nezhin and Yelnya all had airfields before the war.
5. Glukhov (223, 159) should be added to the map. Pop=1, RY=1 and airfield size 1. Built in 1930, used by the Germans as the cover for Konotop airfield.



panzer51 -> RE: Various map issues (12/5/2021 12:04:50 AM)

Burgas and Varna should both be Port=2. Not sure why they're not.



Lurberri -> RE: Various map issues (12/5/2021 9:12:26 AM)

The name of this airbase is not visible on the map at maximum zoom:
- 187,151 AF Kiestinki -> #Unit 09604

"Town dots" are missing on the map:
- 173,116 Haapsalu -> #Location 2830
- 170,117 Kardla -> #Location 2405
- 179,115 Turi -> #Location 2408



Denniss -> RE: Various map issues (12/5/2021 4:27:06 PM)

Added Kiestinki location to generic data so it should show in new games.
Burgas and Varna already got ports in our internal revision, Varna 3 and Burgas 1
the airbase requests sound reasonable



panzer51 -> RE: Various map issues (12/5/2021 7:10:26 PM)

Velikie Luki should also have airfield 1. It's north of town, still exists till this day and was used by a joint Soviet-German airline Deruluft as a stopover on Moscow-Koenigsberg route until 1937.

Izocha nearby doesn't have airbase attached to it but have the name showing on the map. The airfield there was built by the Germans, so no airfield should be there in 1941.



panzer51 -> RE: Various map issues (12/5/2021 7:52:02 PM)

Krasnodar should also have airfield=1, the airport was built in mid-1930s still exists in exactly the same spot.



panzer51 -> RE: Various map issues (12/5/2021 8:07:17 PM)

Ryazhsk should also have an airfield, there was a school of long range aviation there. Several bomb groups were based there. Ryazhsk was also a large railroad center consisting of 4 stations. Most evacuations going to Urals and Siberia were going through Ryazhsk, so probably RY=2-3.

Mikhailov nearby should also have an airfield, it was located about a mile north-east of town.

Kashira too should have an airfield, multiple units were based there, for example 171 IAP

Yelets should also have an airfield, many IAPs were flying from there (e.g. 42 IAP). It also was large railroad center, so probably should be RY=1 at least.



Lurberri -> RE: Various map issues (12/6/2021 1:05:55 AM)

These two cities are misspelled on the map:

- 181,187 Przemysl East (was Przemsyl East)
- 180,187 Przemysl West (was Przemsyl West)



Denniss -> RE: Various map issues (12/8/2021 1:46:55 PM)

Przemysl is fixed, was a map text only issue as the locations were properly named



Dreamslayer -> RE: Various map issues (12/9/2021 8:22:54 PM)

quote:

2966 Siversky (old) 194,108 -> Nizovskaya, airfield reduced to 1, capture dates modified

Better to remove this location from the map, there was no so special just a small rairoad station. There was no airfield too.

List of airfields of Leningrad M.D. on 23 June 1941. There are 90 airfields and no anything related to "Nizovskaya".
Airfields of Northern Front on 29 July 1941 (map of southern part).
You can see that there are nothing between Siverskaya/Siverskiy and nearest AF on south in Luga area (Smychkovo).



Denniss -> RE: Various map issues (12/9/2021 10:05:19 PM)

I tried to move Siversky location but got strange results with showing them at both old and new location so implemented this workaround instead.
It's ahistorical but I can live with it. Better this than to break something.



rocketman71 -> RE: Various map issues (1/2/2022 9:11:07 PM)

The Baltic island Gotland is spelled with one "t" not two like on the map.



Denniss -> RE: Various map issues (1/2/2022 9:18:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rocketman71

The Baltic island Gotland is spelled with one "t" not two like on the map.
Thanks for the report, I already stumbled onto this and it will be fixed in a future data update.



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