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boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/5/2022 12:54:19 PM)
November 20, 1942 Norway-Allied forces complete the destruction of German 20th Coastal division, also inflicting hits on the stukas that try to support it. Some Allied formations will be withdrawn here, but an offensive posture will be taken(where supply allows) to pressure Oslo and try to occupy German formations-we don't want that armor redeploying east. BOA-4 separate attacks by Uboats sink 5 MM and 3 escorts. Still very heavy losses for us. We score 6 step hits on the raiders, however. We are still losing a lot more than the Axis, but at least we are making it cost something. Also, the losses to the uboats mean they have to return to port to repair, blunting their attacks for a few turns. England/Germany-Bad weather grounds all US bombers-this may become a real problem. Gibraltar-The Gibraltar garrison finally mops up the German assault forces, who offer virtually no resistance after being out of supply. E Med-We finally move into a hex that blockades the Italians on Rhodes. It seems blockading a port is pretty tricky, and I cannot seem to master it. It is possible we will be able to salvage this after all, though the cost in terms of ships, planes and time is absurd. Africa/Misurata-Allied planners were expecting the worst here, fearing heavy counter strokes both on land and vs our fleets. However, the Axis forces do not decide to launch a full on counter. On land, they pull their forces back towards Tripoli, as we had thought earlier they would. By sea, they launch air strikes and attack with subs, lightly damaging two carriers with their bombers(again, our land based aircraft fail to provide fighter cover) and lightly damaging two cruisers with their subs. Not inconsequential, but not as bad as we feared. Did the movement of the Atlantic Fleet into this front cause Nirosi to forego a major counter? Hard to determine. [image]local://upfiles/15177/7C0F0B12F0A04ABCB4B51300A68F6325.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/5/2022 1:02:15 PM)
November 20, 1942 Ultimately, Allied planners decide to try to maintain momentum, attacking and destroying the Italian reserve corps here and pushing armor into the gap. Our forces are badly degraded, however, and facing fresh German forces, this may be a poor idea. Still, we continue to destroy Italian formations, leaving the three German formations here less and less supported. All fleets go to port here, resupplying for either further amphibious operations or a clash with the Regia Mariana. [image]local://upfiles/15177/4094D097E9EB4701862BA376917F7AF6.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/5/2022 1:10:49 PM)
November 20, 1942 East Front North(Konev)-Stavka(me) took a huge, bad gamble here, and it did NOT pay off. Seeing bad weather, we tipped our hand and moved our winter armor into position, hoping for continued bad weather that would allow us to take advantage of our specialty and bull the Germans off their line. Instead, we've gotten three turns of either clear or rainy weather, which has allowed Nirosi to prep defenses perfect to repel us, switching his forces to garrison(extra AT guns) then giving them the anti tank specialty. This offensive is likely over before it begins, though if it EVER snows, we will check the odds. But I doubt we will be able to budge these formations. To the south, some German troops have now been railed in. The window of opportunity here has closed, in large part due to my clumsy handling of the situation. [image]local://upfiles/15177/C9B0D63B703348A189956166F7B8D43E.jpg[/image] Center/South-Very little happening here. German forces are gaining readiness. More Russian forces arrive every turn, but their ability to slow the panzers is extremely suspect.

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/5/2022 1:24:40 PM)
Check out Nirosi's Atlantic Wall. While Allied planners speculate that most of these are low quality divisions, there is a significant amount of forces defending against any direct cross Channel assault. [image]local://upfiles/15177/3CA8ABD2F08C4A8EB14F8BA9F2001752.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/5/2022 1:36:12 PM)
The Atlantic Wall [image]local://upfiles/15177/1EBCA22D9DB44D5E87FAABB488E49687.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/5/2022 1:37:04 PM)
Set German fortifications in the West. [image]local://upfiles/15177/589F88CA12004A749700707B814DA8AD.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/5/2022 1:37:49 PM)
Was Rommel REALLY killed in Africa? Or did he survive to be re assigned? [image]local://upfiles/15177/68630DD67A3744FB9B9619F4C8F8ADEA.jpg[/image]

redrum68 -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/5/2022 3:48:17 PM)
Might be worth trying to redeploy the Soviet winter formations to another area along the Eastern Front where he is less prepared.

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/6/2022 2:43:47 AM)
December 4, 1942 BOA-Only one uboat strike, but it is of note. 3 wolfpacks attack vs 9 escorts, sinking 5 MM and losing 0 steps. This is a bad result. But what worries Allied planners is how one sided it is. Does this attack mean Germany has achieved new tech? If so, the next few turns could be very bad. Norway-Another German formation off loads east of Oslo. English formations are trying to move into better supply, as they are looking ragged. A clear plan of operation remains hazy here. England/Germany-A break in the storm sends all 5 US bomber squadrons to the skies. Essen and Hamburg are pounded, along with the synthetic oil plant. Africa/E Med-Germany gives no ground here, despite the loss of Italian formations. Allied intelligence expected Axis formations to fall back into the hills where the terrain is more favorable, but they do not do this. US heavy bombers are deployed to Misurata, and can now menace Naples as well as Taranto. There is some concern as to whether or not this city is safe from Axis attack. On Rhodes, an effort is made to attack from the beachhead, but no significant damage is done to the Italian formation. For the most part, Allied fleets are in port, attempting to regain cohesion. East Front-North(Konev) Snow finally falls. We apparently managed to get two Russian cruisers stuck in ice in the Baltic Sea. This is concerning. Even with snow, the odds for any attack along this front appear suicidal. Russian armor is moved to rail heads to be moved elsewhere. Center(Vatutin)-No activity South(Zhukov/Rokossovsky)-Without any other options, we attack exactly where the Axis wants us to-into the Pripyet Marsh, held by Italian forces. Five straight attacks with 2 formations do virtually no damage to the Italian I Corps, despite decent odds. One has to wonder, if we cannot prevail here, where could we possibly have any success? The final attacks are launched by Russian armor corps with winter specialty, meaning they are hitting with in excess of 20 attack strength vs a 2 strength Italian unit. Still, they are repelled. More units are railed in, but the Axis will now react, and we have gained no ground at all. Is it possible that no counter attack by Russia in the winter of '42 is possible? [image]local://upfiles/15177/7111AE8D652A4133B171BCB8BFB8DABB.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/6/2022 2:49:00 AM)
Destroyed KV-1s and T-26s, somehow knocked out by light Italian AT guns in the frozen Pripyet Marsh. [image]local://upfiles/15177/A115950F84CE4B0EBB1C360F35D1DE4D.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/6/2022 3:02:46 AM)
Russian generals were very confident that Italian AT weapons would be inadequate vs their super heavy tanks. They could not have been more wrong. The Italians and their equipment are more than up to the task of whipping the Red Army in the winter of 1942. [image]local://upfiles/15177/C0C81D251E654855B36F44D8430D05D7.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/6/2022 3:11:18 AM)
US Bombers are bringing the pain on German industrial cities. But not without cost. Here we see the last moments of a B-17 Flying Fortress, brought down by flack over Hamburg. [image]local://upfiles/15177/6F6FA2A0E7EB406DB124355ADA798A85.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/6/2022 1:18:27 PM)
Anzac tankers, part of the WDF, refit and rearm. What is the next step in the desert? [image]local://upfiles/15177/048B72C78B324584A396E1A906A9DC54.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/6/2022 4:38:55 PM)
Dec 18, 1942 BOA-Two attacks by sub packs and one by the German surface fleet result in 9 MM sunk and 1 escort. More MM are added this turn, but our production is not keeping pace with losses. 5 Sub hits are recorded. Attempts to intercept the German surface ships again fail. Germany-US bombers again are very active, reducing Hamburg, Hanover, Essen, and the synthetic oil plant. Wear and tear is taking its toll however, even with constant supply truck use. Africa-Germany finally hits back-but not with one armor corps-Germany now has 2 in this theater. They easily drive back the US 1st Armor corps in one attack. I have elected to use breakthrough armor with the US as a roleplaying idea, since US tanks are more mobile and lighter. It is very telling here. Hard to know just how far the Germans will want to hit back. [image]local://upfiles/15177/2E8926C8EBBD467FBF36209D774EDEDB.jpg[/image] Efforts on Rhodes continue to consume huge amounts of air and naval assets, with no discernable progress.

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/6/2022 4:53:06 PM)
December 18, 1942 East Front North-No activity here, except heavy armor corps are being railed out of this sector. Holding this theater in spring is likely an impossibility without the gains of the expected winter offensive. Center-Stavka sees some possibilities to blood German forces here, but does not have the assets to attempt anything. South(Zhukov/Rokossovsky)-Throwing good money after bad, the Russian big offensive, code named 'Broler'(Brawler) continues to slam ahead. Italian I Corps which bloodied the Russians so badly last turn while holding the town of Gomel, repels our first two attacks by 2nd Tank Corps and 3rd Guards Tank Corps, but is finally overrun on the third attack. Likely they ran out of ammunition. 2nd Tank Corps, 15th Tank, and 1st Guards Tank then strike south and push back the Italian XV Corps, blowing a sizeable hole in the Axis line. It is, of course, over very bad terrain, however, so exploitation is slow. A massive wedge of Russian armor is pointed at the breach. No fewer than 7 tank corps are in position, and backed by mech units, infantry and two more armor corps can be railed in next turn. There is a real question, however, as to what the overall goal of this offensive is, and how far it should go. In good weather, the Germans would easily dispatch even this volume of Russian forces. Stalin is a professed atheist. But one would not be surprised if he is praying for General Winter to keep him company. [image]local://upfiles/15177/8293E74B20144D1E946DF26CFF8F2C3C.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/6/2022 4:58:03 PM)
Once the Russian take ground, it will be difficult to displace their armor in the winter months. Here, a powerful KV2 has been recaptured in the Pripyet. [image]local://upfiles/15177/0B2B064321324F6EB19A8607AD37AE20.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/6/2022 5:01:25 PM)
T34s roll over light Axis tanks. But what will happen when heavy German tank formations arrive? [image]local://upfiles/15177/DEF5D021C2824FC19445574105BA22E7.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/6/2022 5:31:05 PM)
News is leaked to the world that 4 weeks ago, a momentous conference took place in Yalta. Stalin could only stay 36 hours, as he intimated that he was badly needed for planning a major operation. But prior to his departure, he made it very clear to Churchill and Roosevelt: without a significant 2nd front on or before the spring of 1943, Russia will not survive. 'Sideshows' like Norway and the Eastern Med, Stalin insists, will not suffice. [image]local://upfiles/15177/AF44AE24C4014139A8B785035A579436.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/7/2022 9:06:05 AM)
January 1, 1943-A new year BOA-Convoy attacks in the N Atlantic claim 2 MM. The German raiders traveled too far this turn to do much damage, but will be a problem next go round. Norway-Another German formation arrives. Despite all units being directly on rail heads in 9 supply, our formations are looking VERY ragged, and it is still fairly early in the winter. [image]local://upfiles/15177/419CAD901F86489DA00F563D457E8E8D.jpg[/image] Germany-US bomber formations make raids, predominantly on Axis oil refineries which have lighter AA defenses. Formations are extremely worn down. Rhodes/Africa-No new developments here. A third US armor corps lands near Misurata. Allied armor now outnumbers Axis 2-1, but Axis armor is roughly twice as powerful.

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/7/2022 9:13:41 AM)
East Front North/Center-All is quiet on these fronts. Where possible, better infantry armies are placed on river lines. South(Zhukov)-Broler grinds forward at a snail's pace. No enemy units are displaced this turn, although an attack is made to the south vs weak Hungarian units. Right now, even the most modest goal of this offensive, which was to force deployment of German mechanized assets, seems in jeopardy. The offensive will continue, but after 4 weeks, confidence is very, very low. [image]local://upfiles/15177/6AB7EEFD1D564E7AA090B8B70588E34D.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/7/2022 9:36:15 AM)
Allied planners continue to search for areas where a possible legitimate second front could be opened. The options are as follows: Western Europe-Historically, the preference of US planners. Obviously, this would be the most direct threat to Germany. There are several problems with this. The biggest is my ineptitude with amphibious ops. The second is Nirosi's powerful Atlantic defenses. Western Africa-Paladin II? We likely could pull this off. The question is, would it be enough? It would likely take most of 1943 before we could get to Tunis, and at that point, we would be merely threatening Italy, not Germany. This would likely be too little too late. What a shame this op couldn't have been launched in 1942. Southern France-This op is interesting. It would provide a soft initial landing, as Vichy forces are weak. That said, it would have considerable supply problems, and would have to operate in an area where the Italian navy and air forces could really hamper us. Another negative would be the addition of the Vichy fleet to Axis forces. Greece-Similar problems to the France ops, as we would be under the thumb of Axis air. Additionally, terrain in Greece would really hamper any breakout. It would have the interesting ancillary benefit of possibly knocking out Axis minor powers-if it ever made it out of Greece. [image]local://upfiles/15177/1CBF6CFEE9E742B98EE7355BE4AED44D.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/7/2022 10:07:41 AM)
Supply to Misurata can be problematic. A stuka swoops in on Allied shipping. [image]local://upfiles/15177/EF362B13570D4B6E8777466D0D890C46.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/7/2022 1:57:30 PM)
US ball turret gunner loads up for another mission over the heart of The Reich. Hard to imagine. [image]local://upfiles/15177/4095BCC0BA66413D865EFB0417D8E792.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/7/2022 2:00:17 PM)
Another T34 is knocked out as Broler grinds to a halt. [image]local://upfiles/15177/976C75FCA76E4B79B86807E260484033.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/8/2022 8:25:30 AM)
January 15, 1943 Norway-Another German unit arrives here, bringing the total to 5, although at least one is only a division. UK I Corps works north to occupy rail. [image]local://upfiles/15177/5BE794E343784072A269F919CACDDE7E.jpg[/image] BOA 9 MM and 2 escorts go down, only 2 Uboat hits. We continue to lose this struggle. We don't have enough regular navy vessels helping out, AND I don't seem to deploy them well when we do. More MM and escorts arrive/are purchased this turn. But it is still touch and go. Overall, the cost of this campaign has been ruinous. Germany-Only one heavy bomber formation takes to the sky, hitting two refineries. These formations will need several turns to get back near reasonable efficiency.

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/8/2022 8:32:54 AM)
January 15, 1943 Africa-US forces loop to the southwest of German formations. This is primarily a bluff, trying to keep Nirosi's focus on Africa. Rhodes-The endless and costly struggle here continues, occupying ships men and aircraft, with no apparent progress. US bombers redeploy to Crete, but need time to recovery effectiveness. [image]local://upfiles/15177/80770812513F4B508868C7183926D31E.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/8/2022 8:44:28 AM)
January 15, 1943 East Front North(Konev/Garisimenko)-The last winterized armor has been pulled from this front. Our cruisers remain frozen in the Baltic. There is no plan to protect Leningrad in the spring, which means the entire fleet here will be lost. In Finland, there is little activity. A Russian army is moving forward in the north to replace the mech unit there and free it up as a reserve. Center(Vatutin)-Near Rzhev and Kalnin, new units arrive. The land bridge south of the Lovat River would seem a logical place for a direct German strike to Moscow. South(Zhukov/Rokossovsky)-Broler grinds on. Progress is glacially slow. The battered Italian XV Corps is pushed back, along with the equally worn down Hungarian V Corps. But even with good odds, it is taking multiple attacks and lots of air support, which is wearing down our armor and air. Additionally, we expected the swamp to freeze and become forest, but that has not occurred(bug?). In any case, this offensive can only go on a month, perhaps six weeks longer at the most. At that point, in the spring, it would be child's play for the Germans to slice into the neck of the salient and bag the entire Russian armor strength. To this point, zero casualties have been inflicted on German units, as they have not been needed. Broler, it appears, will be a complete strategic failure. [image]local://upfiles/15177/C8374EB7057B40D098CA0E155B4EEBB1.jpg[/image]

boldairade -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/8/2022 9:14:56 AM)
The Pripyet claims another Russian tank during the doomed Broler offensive. Was it the terrain that stopped Broler? Axis efficiency? Russian incompetence? Was it a doomed plan logistically? Perhaps all of the above. [image]local://upfiles/15177/4067F674B1044AB7AFC4999D72EA709A.jpg[/image]

John B. -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/8/2022 2:27:58 PM)
I have to say that if you look at a historical map of where the allies were in the real war and where you are that, from that point of view, things look good. And, you're already strat bombing Germany which the US did not really get started until summer/fall 1943. It also must help the Russians some that, from what I can see, at least three German armor corps are tied down fighting in Norway/North Africa.

redrum68 -> RE: Nirosi vs Boldairade(NO Nirosi for now...) (1/8/2022 3:24:42 PM)
How is the soviet starting unit experience looking at this point?

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