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loki100 -> RE: North Africa and Italy events moved back (11/10/2021 10:51:20 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Balou
Thanks for this answer. Now that is interesting, almost philosophical. How much should one invest in say NAfr although El Alamein is going to happen anyway and the best you can achieve is a delayed invasion of Sicily and Italy etc. Meaning that you will possibly (?) prevent your italian divisions from leaving the eastern front to soon. True ?
a few bits.
N Africa is hard to influence, when the TBs were first opened in testing (we had them since the very early versions but were told not to touch), almost every Axis player dumped a relatively large force in N Africa, since the extra:historical ratio is easy to escalate the result was a lot of delayed events - with knock on effects.
So the effect on N Africa is capped (not sure the values are available), so that you can't have an effective % over base line beyond a certain number.
So, me, I'd not sweat that Theatre. Realistically the Italian 8A will be withdrawn long before Italy surrenders regardless.
When the surrender event happens two things occur. One is you get fresh forces in the AR, these need to be refitted and most are probably better left in Italy but there are a few juicy ones in there - check out the Living Manual as I documented all these unexpected axis reinforcements after my 1941-44 Axis GC. The other is Italy comes into play.
Once the Allies reach the mainland that opens up the track to D-Day.
Now in both the West and Italy (even without full TB control) you can set up a nice stream of delays and extra VP. In the game above from late 43 to the game end I got about 25 this way (so the equivalent of 4 early lost cities). I've become a fan of dumping the weaker AA units into both TB, they are not that useful in Russia post-42 and they give a nice hit on both the air and ground demands.
Italy itself is in terms of events a dead end, a few raise the baseline requirement, a few alter combat intensity but its purely a VP source/loss.
West/France has a couple that matter. The Disaster in the West destroys 20% of the forces and --- these come back. And are then open to redeployment east or west to your taste. Paris ups your manpower allocation but hits your NM. The loss of Frankfurt is usually fatal as it takes off the NSS the Soviets can't reach. So the West theatre can impact on wider game play almost to the end.
As to branching/conditional events, the ability is there to code them. The problem is first the mechanistic one of getting the syntax right and then testing, do they fire as you want, if an unlikely but extreme outcome kicks in what is the wider effect. Given the number of moving parts in the main game, there was simply no way to test this sort of stuff safely - in the AAR I mentioned above I came up with a long list of issues simply as we had no other Axis 1941 GC go that deep (so they were sorted in StB or never came up)
Roger
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