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Defend at all cost is dangerous as it can cause panic. Once panicking the new ruled could kick and cause the unit to break.

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I have seen a couple more cases of larger AI units going into complete collapse and surrendering/disappearing in mass in a single turn. I think it is primarily battlegroups and being AI, I can only assume they were using regular defense. I am not sure if those type results are what you are trying to achieve. I am going to start watching closer.

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Also I have been wondering if we can expect pzfausts for the German army? They were very common in 44 and did provide an effective anti-tank weapon at the squad level in certain circumstances. Their existence also served as an additional deterrent against allied tanks closing the range too aggressively against german infantry.

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If possible can you send me a savegame where I can repeat collapsing a large units as you reported?

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Their presence, like that of MG and small arms, is modeled in the different infantry squad types. If you look well at the illustrations you'll see some guys are actually carrying panzerfausts.

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Vic, I just sent you a turn showing a moderate sized unit capitulating.

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Changelist for v1.00.08
-Improved logging in detailed combat window if an individual is firing on unseen positions
-Added some library/masterfile functionality for Davide to include in next scenario versions.
-FOW shading is now applied if hex hide >= hex effective recon instead of the old if 1 > effective recon
-If a unit has 6 or more different movement types some of them are grouped to not distort the user interface in the right side bar.
-Reworked the unit and hex right sidebar to be completely compatible with screen resolutions between 768 height and 800 height.
-The Integrity score in the bottom part of the UI gives a very comprehensive mouse-over now. This mouse-over includes info on the TOE of the unit

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ORIGINAL: Vic

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Vic, I just sent you a turn showing a moderate sized unit capitulating.

Thanks! Everything is working as I intended. Battlegroups must have a weakness: They break when they panic.

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And screenshots should (in theory) work in PBEM as well.

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Hey Vic, have you ever wondered how well this Ardennes combat and officer command card system would work for Napoleonic or American Civil War tactical battles at the regiment/battalion level?

Seriously, I think a slightly tweaked system would produce a far better simulation of those massive tactical battles than anything that has appeared previously and also more enjoyable. The ebb and flow of those Nap/ACW battles are very similar to what we see in your Ardennes system. And I suspect the card system could reasonably model the problems of Nap/ACW command and control which has always been a big problem with modeling that timeframe. Anyway, I thought I would see if I could plant a seed.

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I heartily agree this idea might greatly move forward what we currently have regarding Nap/ACW battles. Right now, minus the cards, Grand Tactician The Civil War (1861-1865) on Steam is closest to that flavor (and highly recommended) for the battles. The campaigns in the game are highly complex to manage, at present, however.

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I heartily agree this idea might greatly move forward what we currently have regarding Nap/ACW battles. Right now, minus the cards, Grand Tactician The Civil War (1861-1865) on Steam is closest to that flavor (and highly recommended) for the battles. The campaigns in the game are highly complex to manage, at present, however.

I have been keeping my eye on Grand Tacitician but haven't bought it. I am seeing comments expressing some reservations on the AI but it is tempting and I bet if successful there will be an expansion into Napoleonics. Very different game though from the Ardennes system.

IMO, the Ardennes system would have little difficulty creating a solid Napoleonic or ACW game in terms of tactical mechanisms. There was an ebb and flow of tactical Nap/ACW operations that is very similar to what we see in the WW2 Ardennes modeling. The only missing tactical mechanism would be modeling the importance of skirmishing during the era. But then the real challenge would be modeling command and control to reflect the difficulty in coordinating + controlling divisions and corps with semi-independent leaders in an era lacking modern communications. Command, control and leadership were often a wild card during that timeframe and the quality + characteristics of division/corps leadership was very important. IMO, the HPS system was on the right general track in terms of scale and visual appeal but had significant problems in tactical modeling and tried to its best to simply ignore such a vitally important component as command and control. It seems like HPS started the job but never finished it. So for me, simply no cigar there. Anyway enough for now in off subject distractions and back to the Ardennes.

PS: Ernie might be interested in a Nap/ACW mod of the Ardennes system???

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I would love an updated version of Age of Rifles. I loved Norm's games in general in the 90s.

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-Fuel bug with quite massive underconsumption is fixed.

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-Fuel bug with quite massive underconsumption is fixed.

Oh-oh... Could you explain a bit more this one ? Smells like big trouble for the panzer divisions now