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deaniks -> Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 2:26:22 AM)

hello, folk's
Just wanted to add this game to the forum's it's about almost April of 1942 and this game has turned very interesting, I'll post my variants below show you the situation, and then say what's next in my plan.

Eco 69 pts

E1 40 pts - A7M2 2x30, B7A2 2x30, 2x30 Ki-67-la(T), Ki-84A 2x30

E2 9 pts 2x30 Ha-43, 1x30 Ha-45

E4 5 pts 50 oil Tokyo

E5 5 pts 30 repair yard Truk

E6 6 pts 200k supplies Truk, 100k Saigon

E7 4 pts 200k Fuel Truk

Base 4 pts

B1 4 pts Truk potential airfield level 6

Air 36 pts

A1 10 pts Ki-84A 12/43, B7A2 44/6

A3 12 pts IJN 42&43, IJA 42

A14 4 pts 25 H6K4, 50 Float Zero's

A19 12 pts IJA Fighter, Bomber group, IJN Fighter, Torpedo Bomber Group


Naval 85.5 pts


N4 12 pts 4 Taiho class CV's

N7 10 points Kaga, Amagi, Hiryo, Soryu to Taiho class CV's

N7 6 pts Juno, Hiyo to Grap Zeplin class CV's

N7 10.5 Zuiho, Chiyoda, Chitose, Mizhuo, Nisshin, Shoho, Ryuho to Ryjuo class CVL

N7 6 pts Kamikawa Maru, Sanyo Maru, to Chitose class CS

N7 8 pts Minekaze(16) to Shimakaze

N7 2 pts Akigumo, Kagero, Isokaze, Shiranui to Aktisuki

N7 2.5 pts Urakaze, Hamakaze, Tanikaze, Arare, Kasumi to T-100

N7 1 pts Katori to Kitakami Cl

N7 4 pts Kashii, Kashima to Nagara 30 float capacity A6M2 float

N7 6 pts Yamashiro, Fuso to Ironman Kongo Class A6M2 Float

N7 1 pts Aoi Maru, Banshu Maru#18 to Orion

N7 1 pts Banshu Maru#56 Choun Maru#8 to STD-f

N7 2 pts Choun Maru#21, Choun Maru#2 to Akitsu Maru 4068

N7 1 pts Chitose Maru, Fuji Maru to Akitsu Maru LSD

N7 9 pts Type 4(9), I-153, I-154, I-155 to I-33 Class with 3 Seiren

N7 3.5 pts Kamikaze(7) to t-100

Other 7 pts

O1 4 pts

O2 3 pts

Land 48 pts

Custom 15 pts 745 to 756, 755 to 756, 721 to 732, 746 to 756, 778 to 782

L2 8 pts 732 to 42/3, 784 43/12

L3 16 pts 5th, 7th Tank Div

L12 4 pts 1st JAAF BF, 7th JAAF BF, 4th BF, 6th BF, 1st BF, 2nd BF, 3rd bf, 7th BF, 9th bf

L13 5 pts 7th Naval Con, 25th Ind.Eng Rgt, 6th Naval con, 1st Naval Con 2nd Naval Con, 3rd Naval, 4th Naval, 5th Naval, 9th ind, 1st ind

Free add 20 production to Seiren

A6m2 zero float fighter 5 replacment rate free

250 points total




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 2:30:44 AM)

Plane Losses
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Ship losses

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state of map

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Intelligence Screen

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deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 2:41:39 AM)

I've been very aggressive in this game Coal harbour to Attu island is controlled by the Empire. Wake to Noumea conquered by the Empire, Port Moresby, Darwin and DEI also conquered by the empire. The last major region to be conquered is Burma, Singapore took way longer than normal to conquer he reinforced with the 18th div and the 100th Chinese new div so it was a nasty bit of business.

My plan for my last 15 day's of invasion land on Chittagong Andy has 60k troop's in Rangoon I believe with that amount he's reinforced with some Chinese units plus possible divs from mainland India which might leave it open for the taken. or distract him long enough to divert resources from
other theator's





RangerJoe -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 2:46:21 AM)

Invade India behind him . . . [X(]




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 2:50:38 AM)

Yes definitely catch him off guard that's for certain no sane player will ever think of doing something like this [;)]




RangerJoe -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 3:18:32 AM)

You can also invade Pegu. Before you do that, make sure that you recon every base in the area.




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 3:50:39 AM)

I've gone through my turn again and have reoriented some force's It's possible to do a Pegu invasion but risky I'm trying to see if I can do both Chittagong and Pegu at the same time might commit one less div and tank regiment and commit more to Pegu I also might para drop Prome as well will recon and see what's in base and cut off his 60k troops there

Troops inside Rangoon
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deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 3:57:15 AM)

here are the rules as well
**No 4E naval bombing below 10,000ft

**Sweep limit 30K and below.

**PPs to be paid to change a restricted unit to an unrestricted command before marching across a border. (This includes all restricted Allied, Chinese, Japanese & Thai units)

**No Strategic/City Bombing into or out of China before 1943.

**Any port may be bombed on turn 1 by carrier air but no LBA may be used for a turn 1 port attack – KB may be split and hit as many targets as required

**Allies can only give orders to existing TFs on turn 1. No other Land, Sea or Air units can be issued orders. Force Z may be re-directed.

**No Allied Air or Naval units are allowed in Russia, even if Russia is activated.

**No invasions or paradrops on hexes that donīt contain a dot or base.




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 4:07:55 AM)

Chittagong
15th Army
41st RGT,
38th Div,
17th indpt Guard RGT,
6th tank regiment,
5th Div,
5th Amphibious Brigade

Pegu
25 Army,
1st Tank RGT,
18th Div,
15th Guards RGT,
55th Div,
Imperial Guard Div,
33rd Div,
14th Tank RGT,
124th inf RGT,
13 art unit's

What do you guys think enough for both landing?

I can have the 16th guard's RGT, 146th RGT as strategic reserves in case things go bad. once they finish up their land combat on island's








RangerJoe -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 12:50:52 PM)

Are there any Allied units at the base between Pegu and Moulmein? If not, paradrop there if you invade Pegu. If you are also moving overland on Moulmein, even better.

If you can, paradrop in Burma and stop the Burma Road from supplying China.




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 2:13:11 PM)

So I'm thinking the idea is to para drop Prome to cut his rail line to India invade Pegu which cut's the Burma rail line then I'm having two Thai div's walk up the road to Moulmein as we speak so they will help with minor base's and such.




RangerJoe -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 2:52:54 PM)

If you paradrop on the base between Moulmein and Pegu that will cut his troops off at Moulmein.

The Burma Road, I do believe, also works with the gray roads as well.




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 2:59:15 PM)

do you mean sittang bridge?

[image]https://i.gyazo.com/c1cca0aaf6ca5366049678e22e6de193.jpg[/image]




RangerJoe -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 3:14:28 PM)

Yes.

There is also that new dot base east of Ramree Island. That is a relatively faster way for the enemy to evacuate Southern Burma so take that base and Ramree Island as well.




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 3:35:17 PM)

March 17th

Not too much-happned lots of bases conquered and gathering assets for the invasions of India/Moulmein I want the Chittagong invasion to launch in 3 to 4 days while the Pegu to launch a week from now.


A good catch for Andy bad for me though

Morning Air attack on TF, near Yakutat at 189,36

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 7
Martlet II x 8
F4F-3A Wildcat x 13
F4F-3 Wildcat x 47
F4F-4 Wildcat x 19
SBD-3 Dauntless x 60
TBD-1 Devastator x 13

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
AMC Bankok Maru, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMC Kiyosumi Maru, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk
AMC Akagi Maru, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
APD Shimakaze, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
APD Nadakaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Shanghai Maru, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
xAK Hokuroku Maru, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage





deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 4:08:37 PM)

[image]https://i.gyazo.com/cbac4b9b0b9666c15839865a7c2d1795.jpg[/image]

Red circles are invasion points while orange circles are para drop point's I think bassei could be a useful para drop but I'll see I should have 3 regiment's in the area for para dropping




RangerJoe -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 4:37:15 PM)

If you do not paradrop on Bassein but do drop into the other three and capture them, by invading Pegu you can seriously make it difficult for the Allies to evacuate Southern Burma and maintain order. That could make it easier to capture Calcutta . . .




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 5:11:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

If you do not paradrop on Bassein but do drop into the other three and capture them, by invading Pegu you can seriously make it difficult for the Allies to evacuate Southern Burma and maintain order. That could make it easier to capture Calcutta . . .

Yes I agree on that




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 7:37:05 PM)

March 18th

American carriers tried to raid Kodiak but suffered heavy losses

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kodiak at 181,42

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
A6M2s Zero x 20
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 14
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 12 destroyed

Aircraft losses claim 30 SBD-3 shot down today this for sure will make the American fleet go back to safer water's to replenish air group's

[image]https://i.gyazo.com/155c4d5b88d0a93b352316238c88a2df.png[/image]




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 8:53:53 PM)

Marth 19th

one day until launch of invasion's


Also today at Rangoon g4m's and g3m's caught a convoy of troop transport unloading or loading them up hard to tell but around 300 vehicle's destroyed

orning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 27
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 4 damaged
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
xAP Zealandia, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
xAK Shirala, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Shinkuang
AMC Pansy, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Marella, Torpedo hits 1

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Morning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 13
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAK Shinkuang, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Shirala, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Marella, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
Vehicles lost 250 (234 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Morning Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 54,53

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 14
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
KV Aster
xAP Zealandia, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage







deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 8:57:53 PM)

I will admit this is the third time troops were caught at sea I caught two large convoys near Brisbane with KB and now this one near Rangoon that must hurt.

previous troop sinking's

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[image]https://i.gyazo.com/b6051ed0e5807d4f95222f497b12385f.png[/image]




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 10:07:52 PM)

I'm thinking of a slight change in plan's Ceylon invasion? this could help with a May or June invasion of Indian instead of going there now and risking losing more while I still need to finish clean up of Sumatra and Clark field




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/22/2021 10:14:30 PM)

March 20th troopships departed yesterday. I'm thinking as I stated above a change of plan Ceylon invasion I will have more time to think on it tonight as Andy will probably give me his last turn for the day in less than an hour so I have all night to decide.

search reported American carriers at Valdez yesterday 2 surface taskforce's consisting of 4 ship's each launched only one launched good thing as he moved them today and I suffered a CL and DD sunk while him suffering more air casualties.


Morning Air attack on TF, near Kodiak at 181,41

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 13
SBD-3 Dauntless x 13

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CL Kinu
DD Yanagi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Karii

Morning Air attack on TF, near Kodiak at 181,42

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
A6M2s Zero x 20
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 14
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 7
Martlet II x 15
Sea Hurricane F1 x 1
F4F-3 Wildcat x 39
F4F-4 Wildcat x 19
SBD-3 Dauntless x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2s Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hibiki
CA Ashigara

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kodiak at 181,42

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
A6M2s Zero x 18
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 14
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 26

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 6
Martlet II x 14
Sea Hurricane F1 x 1
F4F-3A Wildcat x 13
F4F-3 Wildcat x 36
F4F-4 Wildcat x 17
SBD-3 Dauntless x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 destroyed by flak
Martlet II: 2 destroyed
F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed by flak
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Ashigara

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kodiak at 181,41

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6
SBD-3 Dauntless x 17

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Kinu, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
DD Yanagi, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Yugao




RangerJoe -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/23/2021 12:15:57 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: deaniks

March 18th

American carriers tried to raid Kodiak but suffered heavy losses

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kodiak at 181,42

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
A6M2s Zero x 20
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 14
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 12 destroyed

Aircraft losses claim 30 SBD-3 shot down today this for sure will make the American fleet go back to safer water's to replenish air group's

[image]https://i.gyazo.com/155c4d5b88d0a93b352316238c88a2df.png[/image]


The correct number of Allied air losses is to the right which is 26.




RangerJoe -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/23/2021 12:18:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: deaniks

I'm thinking of a slight change in plan's Ceylon invasion? this could help with a May or June invasion of Indian instead of going there now and risking losing more while I still need to finish clean up of Sumatra and Clark field


Sumatra should not take that much. If you can keep Clark from getting supplies, just bomb it to remove supplies and to keep forts from building while you let it starve.

Remember, time is not on your side especially with regard to Indian divisions which come in under strength, under trained, and with low morale.




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/23/2021 12:42:48 AM)

that's true we have 60-day variant on though so I have no idea when his reinforcements arrive at all. I'll stick with my original plan. But now he's moved his force's across the three base's 40k in Rangoon or around 21 unit's, 20k in Pegu 8 unit's, and 15k in sittang brigade 8 units.


[image]https://i.gyazo.com/76ac5e031c361d61e9f36d6032c136d0.jpg[/image]




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/23/2021 12:47:49 AM)

March 21st
Bad day today several taskforces bombarded Kodiak and destroyed massive amounts of fighters' suck's but planes are recoverable.


[image]https://i.gyazo.com/e44de0760f35d7499ca18653273c4ace.png[/image]


the adventure in the sopac has ended. KB will make full steam for the west coast and hopefully catch an American fleet up there if he's cocky enough.




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/24/2021 2:36:15 AM)

March 22nd

some of my carrier subs caught a DD task force of Ceylon one DD sunk

Morning Air attack on TF, near Trincomalee at 33,48

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
M6A1 Seiran x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Arrow, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk




deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/24/2021 2:38:59 AM)

March 23rd

landing has happened near anchorage KB is less than a week away I hope his carriers are still up there I'm prepared.


MKB escorting the India invasion sunk a small convoy leaving or incoming with supplies who know.


Morning Air attack on TF, near Ramree Island at 45,47

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 84
B5N1 Kate x 13
B5N2 Kate x 16
D3A1 Val x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
KV Thyme, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAKL Selma City, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Chaksang, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Ardent, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Katong, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
KV Jasmine, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Nanchang, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Santa Ana, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Oklahoman, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Hermelin, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Wosang
xAKL Illinoian, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Honolulan, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage


Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ramree Island at 45,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
B5N1 Kate x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAKL Kalarand
xAKL Wosang, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk








deaniks -> RE: Dean(J) Verus Andy(A) Scenario 8 Varient's (11/24/2021 9:00:40 PM)

March 24

More ships are sunk in bay of Bengal

Morning Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 49,45

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
B5N1 Kate x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAKL Kalarand, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Nam Yong, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk




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