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Andy Mac -> Scen 24 - May 42 (12/8/2021 7:11:41 PM)

Scen 24

OK here it is guys I dont have time to do the primary research to finish the May 42 Scenario its a mix of my own work and stuff I took from other scenarios

It is attached it is about 70% complete (estimate)

If you guys want to feed me changes and updates to get it to 100% I will include it and do an AI for it.

So there it is it is up to you guys - fix my errors in this thread and if we can knock it into shape I will include it.

I simply dont have the time to do the research on China, what forces are in Alaska have I got SWPAC locations in right place etc etc etc

So challenge to the forum feed me the changes based on attached and if we can get it done I will include it.

Andy



Oberst_Klink -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (12/8/2021 7:13:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Scen 24

OK here it is guys I dont have time to do the primary research to finish the May 42 Scenario its a mix of my own work and stuff I took from other scenarios

It is attached it is about 70% complete (estimate)

If you guys want to feed me changes and updates to get it to 100% I will include it and do an AI for it.

So there it is it is up to you guys - fix my errors in this thread and if we can knock it into shape I will include it.

I simply dont have the time to do the research on China, what forces are in Alaska have I got SWPAC locations in right place etc etc etc

So challenge to the forum feed me the changes based on attached and if we can get it done I will include it.

Andy

Thanks for your amazing work anyway!

Klink, Oberst



Andy Mac -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (12/8/2021 7:13:36 PM)

Hold for Change Log



Admiral DadMan -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (12/8/2021 11:35:01 PM)

I've got a few things. I'll get them to you



Andy Mac -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (12/18/2021 11:09:56 PM)

Any feedback on this one from anyone as I said its at about 70% which is too low to release with patch so up to community either we get it to 95% or I scratch it !!!



Admiral DadMan -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (12/19/2021 1:28:45 PM)

I'm going to dive into it this mornining.



btd64 -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (12/19/2021 2:46:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan

I'm going to dive into it this mornining.



I may have a list of starting locations for U.S. Army units....GP



Andy Mac -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (12/31/2021 12:10:45 PM)

OK go/no go on this scenario is this week so for me its no go its simply not close enough to be ready



Kull -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (12/31/2021 2:44:03 PM)

Kudos for giving it a shot, but these mid-war campaign scenarios aren't AI projects so much as a massive unit reconfiguration and repositioning exercise. The vast majority of units from the 12/7 campaign will be in different locations and that is a daunting research project all by itself.



spence -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (1/13/2022 2:38:13 AM)

If anybody works on this project in the future I did find out that the USS Hornet sailed from Pearl Harbor on April 30 1942 towards the Coral Sea (too late). Presumably she was in company with USS Enterprise and her task force. Scenario 24 puts her in the Eastern US and USS Enterprise in Pearl Harbor. USS Saratoga is also in PH but she was in San Diego undergoing repair/refitting from a torpedo hit in Jan 42. She did not get underway with repairs/refitting completed until June 7 which is why she missed the Battle of Midway.

I also notice that HIJMS Akagi, Soryu and Hiryu are completely absent from the scenario. HiJMS Kaga is also absent but she was in some sort of repair status due to a grounding in Staring Bay back in Feb 42 which was completed in Japan around 1 May.

For IJN ships the best source (with only a little bit of interpolation) is probably
COMBINED FLEET.COM.



spence -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (1/17/2022 1:22:31 AM)

I agree that the biggest problem with this scenario is that many units have redeployed. Assuming that I sorta want to play a scenario beginning around May 1st 42 (and ending about a year later with a complete map so that there are no artificial limits on strategic options) I have a (beginning) question. I have no experience with the editor therefore claim total ignorance thereof.

1) If a ship starts out in the Campaign Game in a TF how can one change it to starting out this game in a port instead (or vice versus)?



Kull -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (1/17/2022 3:07:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: spence

I agree that the biggest problem with this scenario is that many units have redeployed. Assuming that I sorta want to play a scenario beginning around May 1st 42 (and ending about a year later with a complete map so that there are no artificial limits on strategic options) I have a (beginning) question. I have no experience with the editor therefore claim total ignorance thereof.

1) If a ship starts out in the Campaign Game in a TF how can one change it to starting out this game in a port instead (or vice versus)?


That's pretty easy - the hard part is doing it for a few thousand ships, lol.

Go to your "Manuals" folder in the game directory, and there's a file called "WITPAE-Editor.pdf". Page 19 is where you'll find section 3.3 Ships, and page 21 tells you how to set/change the location.



spence -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (1/18/2022 11:35:34 PM)

The KB (less Kaga) had been in nearly continuous operation since sailing for the attack on Pearl Harbor (they had not been long in a major port from January- April in any case). Does anybody have a good source for the the maintenance required by the ships of the KB after their extended deployment? "Shattered Sword" and Combinedfleet.com mention "a quick refit" but doesn't go into what was required by any particular ship. Other than training and the 'quick refit' none of these ships did anything significant until sailing for Midway

(The Kaga ran aground in February which limited its speed to 18 kts and missed the Indian Ocean deployment (and the Battle of the Coral Sea) due to it being in drydock until May 4th.)

Shokaku and Zuikaku were ordered to Truk when they returned from the Indian Ocean Ops around the end of April 42. Truk could not drydock or otherwise provide any significant maintenance support. These two ships were newer than the rest of the KB which probably meant that they needed less of a refit. Does anyone have a good source for what they did need though (I don't think so but did it effect their operations at Coral Sea?)?



USSAmerica -> RE: Scen 24 - May 42 (1/20/2022 3:17:37 PM)

I gave the old May 1, 1942 start scenario a go a few years ago. One thing that I felt needed to be adjusted was the amount of supply in China. Assuming the Burma Road would have been providing 500 supply/day for at least a couple of months, it seemed to me that more could have been added to the starting stockpile in Chungking at the scenario start. As it stood, China was already crippled and starving at the start from lack of supply.



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