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Hano -> Out of the box scenarios (12/27/2021 1:48:48 PM)
I'm looking to do another full campaign but I'm unclear what the difference is between December 8th Full Campaign War in the Pacific - The full campaign War in the Pacific - Hakko Ichiu I understand the Quiet China options, Hakko Ichiu appears to be a better prepared Japan, but I cant understand the difference between the two Full campaign options

Platoonist -> RE: Out of the box scenarios (12/27/2021 2:05:12 PM)
The December 8th Full Campaign begins with the historical damage already done to the US Pacific Fleet and airfields at Pearl Harbor. The Arizona and Oklahoma sunk, other ships badly damaged, and the Kido Butai withdrawing from the area. So, basically no Pearl Harbor attack. It already happened the day before.

btd64 -> RE: Out of the box scenarios (12/27/2021 2:12:55 PM)
The scenario descriptions explain the difference between scenarios....GP

Platoonist -> RE: Out of the box scenarios (12/27/2021 2:34:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: btd64 The scenario descriptions explain the difference between scenarios....GP Yeah, that works too. [image]local://upfiles/9147/75EFAF73E7784633848EB7C85812A389.jpg[/image]

BBfanboy -> RE: Out of the box scenarios (12/27/2021 2:42:58 PM)
Did you know that Quiet China does not happen where Allied and Japanese troops are in adjoining hexes? QC sets a limited number of Japanese objectives to take in China before going quiet, but I think the reactive fighting can still happen. If you want to make it go quiet your must withdraw your side from close contact with the other side.

Yaab -> RE: Out of the box scenarios (12/27/2021 2:47:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Platoonist quote: ORIGINAL: btd64 The scenario descriptions explain the difference between scenarios....GP Yeah, that works too. [image]local://upfiles/9147/75EFAF73E7784633848EB7C85812A389.jpg[/image] Yeah, but can you do better than Chiang Kai-shek?

BBfanboy -> RE: Out of the box scenarios (12/27/2021 2:50:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yaab quote: ORIGINAL: Platoonist quote: ORIGINAL: btd64 The scenario descriptions explain the difference between scenarios....GP Yeah, that works too. [image]local://upfiles/9147/75EFAF73E7784633848EB7C85812A389.jpg[/image] Yeah, but can you do better than Chiang Kai-shek? [:D] If you offer me enough graft, yes![;)]

Hano -> RE: Out of the box scenarios (12/28/2021 2:12:27 PM)
So the only difference between December 8th Full Campaign and War in the Pacific - Full Campaign is that one starts 24 hrs later than the other? [image]local://upfiles/31242/4B1FC8CCE3A449A2BF8B3613C05B202A.jpg[/image]

Platoonist -> RE: Out of the box scenarios (12/28/2021 2:24:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hano So the only difference between December 8th Full Campaign and War in the Pacific - Full Campaign is that one starts 24 hrs later than the other? Yes. With the ships at Pearl Harbor that were sunk on December 7th missing, and other ships damaged that were historically damaged and some aircraft grounded and unable to fly or missing. The scenario was designed for players who want the historical Pearl Harbor result rather than the more random ones you get with the December 7th start where sometimes you do better and sometimes you do worse than was done historically.

Yaab -> RE: Out of the box scenarios (12/28/2021 2:40:19 PM)
Sometimes it is better to start on 8 Dec 1941 than suffer these losses: BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 7, and is sunk SS Narwhal, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 6, and is sunk BB Nevada, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk AVP Swan, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk SS Cachalot, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk BB California, Bomb hits 13, Torpedo hits 7, and is sunk DM Tracy, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Allen, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AVD Hulbert, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DM Preble, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk PT-25, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk YO-31, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Tucker, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Jarvis, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Hano -> RE: Out of the box scenarios (12/28/2021 6:05:42 PM)
Thanks guys...I was wondering if I had missed something

sanch -> RE: Out of the box scenarios (12/29/2021 3:29:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yaab Sometimes it is better to start on 8 Dec 1941 than suffer these losses: BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 7, and is sunk SS Narwhal, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 6, and is sunk BB Nevada, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk AVP Swan, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk SS Cachalot, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk BB California, Bomb hits 13, Torpedo hits 7, and is sunk DM Tracy, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Allen, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AVD Hulbert, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DM Preble, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk PT-25, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk YO-31, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Tucker, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Jarvis, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk I had one of those - two wrecked BB's and all the others sunk.

btd64 -> RE: Out of the box scenarios (12/29/2021 12:30:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sanch quote: ORIGINAL: Yaab Sometimes it is better to start on 8 Dec 1941 than suffer these losses: BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 7, and is sunk SS Narwhal, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 6, and is sunk BB Nevada, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk AVP Swan, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk SS Cachalot, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk BB California, Bomb hits 13, Torpedo hits 7, and is sunk DM Tracy, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Allen, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AVD Hulbert, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DM Preble, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk PT-25, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk YO-31, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Tucker, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Jarvis, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk I had one of those - two wrecked BB's and all the others sunk. Me too, but its been years....GP

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