Edmon -> RE: TOTALLY OT: Football Weekend! (1/31/2022 9:32:36 PM)
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ORIGINAL: John 3rd Thank You Edmon and Erik. I was totally put off by the tone and decided to leave rather then engage. Greatly appreciate you guys and your work. For the most part, this is why I rarely get on the Forum these days. Tone has really changed over the last 17-years of time. I know this is why several other old-timers have left or rarely appear anymore though I stay in contact with them. Am sticking to my Mod work and matches with Lou and Paul and that is about it. Thank you Guys! I honestly really dislike having to warn anyone, but you know, everyone has hobbies and things they are passionate about. Football is absolutely not my thing, but if I'd written a post about something I cared about just to try and make some friends and someone was chanting "Who Cares?"... I'd upset about it even if I wouldn't say anything to that affect. I understand the rules have been, effectively, unenforced for a period of time. Just want to assure everyone that, that is no longer the case and anyone can PM me if they are being trolled and something will be done about it. quote:
ORIGINAL: Ian R Your statement emphasised above discloses a fundamental misunderstanding of how sport in most* Commonwealth countries is organised. (*Not sure about Canada.) First, in the main, most adults participating in organised sports are amateurs. They do so for the exercise, fun and social camaraderie, and often because they are good at it, although not always. They do not do it for money. They may actually pay their club a membership fee to fund it and help it operate. They don't do it to make money. Quite apart from that, I will let one of the UK posters here explain in greater the multi teared English football system, and how it is an inclusive sport that caters to all levels of ability, with those who are very good rising to the very top. Secondly, I'm going to refrain from responding to your assertion about it being an unhealthy scene, and 99% quitting on payment grounds. I will merely say that as a former amateur rugby club player of many years at club level, not everything is about money, and playing rugby teams from the US over the years, I met a lot of like minded opponents who found it a very healthy and socially beneficial activity. If you want to make a career of football (or anything that is something you are passionate about for that matter), it's got to pay enough to cover things like: Food, Heating, Rent, etc. Things you absolutely cannot exist without. Of course people don't always chase certain careers because of the money, that's as true in the games industry as football, I run a youtube channel and I do it to promote TBS games, not because I want to make money out of it. But if I wanted to do it full-time, it'd have to pay enough to keep me alive, at the very least. People who made it a career and got near the top saying it worked out great is honestly survivor bias. Lot of kids passionate about sport, work on developing their skills from a young age and when their parents decide to stop supporting them, they suddenly find they can't afford to exist and they haven't developed the skillset to do another career. I know it's "the way of the world" in many industries but it's just particularly bad in sport.
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