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RedLancer -> RE: toodle pip (2/11/2022 8:45:11 PM)
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ORIGINAL: DarkHorse2
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ORIGINAL: RedLancer
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ORIGINAL: Nikel
More persons had to leave the forum because of some kind of "bullying"?
What is going on in this forum, where are the moderators?
Other than Matrix employees there is me and Joel. Joel is focussed on game development and I have a hugely busy day job and since release you can see I have posted very rarely and have also stepped away from any game development. I only step in when asked or incensed. Well here I am...
I feel the same as Roger (loki100). The behaviour of a vocal minority on this forum is caustic. However, in most instances, it falls short of requiring active moderation. When I have stepped in I too have been subject to PM abuse. I'm not afraid to take on a challenge - Pelton, Hanny and Sauron II no longer post having chosen to cross me.
Some may know that I have been a military policeman for almost 30 years and here's the rub - successful policing only operates in a consensual environment. The poor behaviour persists because the community is too tolerant of those whose attitude is unacceptable. It's your forum.
I'll make this observation for those who find aspects of the game frustrating and want to see things changed: rude ranting, rabble rousing and egotistical posturing on this forum is way less effective than empirical evidence (with saves) that Joel, Gary and Pavel can use to decide on appropriate changes and adjust the code.
Sauron II left the forum and no longer posts due to how pathologically defensive of constructive criticism and how hypocritical you guys were in attacking individuals, by name, when you choose.
Case in point is naming people now who are no longer around to contest your misstatements or defend themselves. Guess you think it is safe now, huh?
That should be beneath you and other Matrix employees.
This forum is not aware that Loki was close to getting banned on Steam due his own abusive behavior, yet now is claiming to be a victim?
Some of us do not forget.
Thank you so very much for proving the point that I made and reinforcing why loki100's decision to take a break is understandable.
Let's examine the facts so the forum can judge appropriately.
I moderated the thread here: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=5119618
This was a clear violation of forum rule 5 and my approach was what I describe as a strong shot across the bows. It wasn't the first fracas between Sauron II and loki100 but one I judged as a moderator to have crossed the line. I'm struggling to find any constructive criticism to which you refer in the comment I took issue with.
The immediate response I received by PM was this:
I don't find the insults or derogatory statements made by him amusing either.
Or how he behaved on steam.
Or how toxic these forums are.
I see how you protect your own.
Just go ahead ban me.
I'm done here.
I made no response because there was no protection - just an enforcement of the rules. The Sauron II profile is now DeletedUser44 with the last login on the profile on that same day (22 Dec 21). My statement above is 100% accurate - in response to being moderated by me Sauron II no longer posts. You are wrong in two respects: claiming I have made a misstatement or that I am a Matrix employee.
You must think I fell out of the stupid tree. You didn't join until 4 Feb 22 and now here you are representing Sauron II with implied threats. I note loki100's comment in Post #2 here : https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=5142186&mpage=1&key=�
Given the tenor of this thread, with overwhelming support towards loki100, I realise perhaps I should have done more for the community.
So, I remind you of Rule 8 that you signed up to: No rude or disrespectful posts to or about any forum moderators or Matrix Games Staff. We will not tolerate any forum member acting in this manner.
Once again my advice is just to stop.
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