Mike_B20 -> (10/28/2003 5:18:20 AM)
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[QUOTE=Mogami]Hi, These numbers are from one of my PBEM games. The date is 11-24-42 I have lost a total of 23 B-17E so far. I do not fly naval strikes or patrol with B-17. I also do not train the groups because they are already mostly trained. So these mission totals reflect Port/Airfield/Ground attack missions. I escort the groups when possible. In this game the Japanese are on Luganville and I have divided my B-17 between 3 airfields. Noumea, Tomo, and Efate. I have 145 B-17 on map and have lost 23. This is a 13.6 Percent loss rate.(23 of 168) (my mission rate is around .5 percent)(10 percent per mission for 13 full strength group would be 15.6 ac per mission. At my present strength it would be 14.5 ac per mission. ) Group-# of pilots-Avg Exp-highest mission total-ac in group 23rd-8-65-2-8 26th-13-74-27-12 28th-12-85-30-12 30th-12-58-7-10 31st-12-60-3-12 42nd-13-76-25-12 63rd-14-70-21-9 64th-13-71-11-11 65th-13-72-12-12 72nd-12-76-20-11 98th-11-68-21-11 403rd-12-71-11-12 435th-12-76-30-11[/QUOTE] The stats for my B17's in my current PBEM scenario 17 as at 5th December 42. Pilots AC Exp 31st BS 9 9 57 23rd BS 11 11 68 72nd 15 10 70 431st 15 10 64 98th 15 10 65 26th 25 11 65 42nd 15 12 72 403rd 13 12 66 65th 15 10 64 64th 11 11 68 63rd 15 12 65 30th 15 10 81 28th 21 9 79 I've lost 27 B17's so far. I tend to use approximately half my B17's on search missions to train them up. If I'm not intending to fly a bombing mission in the next few days I'll have all my b17's on approx 30-40% Naval Search. I've lost a few (several?) B17's changing bases and 1 B17 flying Naval Search mission in thunderstorm. Most (all?) B17 missions for this game shown below. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/07/42 Weather: Partly Cloudy Air attack on Gili Gili , at 17,42 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 4 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 24 * flew from Cairns, daylight no operational losses no losses no losses Japanese ground losses: Men lost 15 Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 4 Attacking Level Bombers: 6 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet 6 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/13/42 Weather: Partly Cloudy Air attack on Buna , at 12,38 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 5 B-17E Fortress x 19 * From Cairns, daylight, 1 operational loss * no losses Japanese ground losses: Men lost 37 Port supply hits 3 Attacking Level Bombers: 4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/05/42 Weather: Partly Cloudy Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 8 * flew from Cairns, daylight, 4 lost * Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress x 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: Men lost 39 Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 2 Attacking Level Bombers: 8 x B-17E Fortress at 10000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 3 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 21 * flew from Cairns Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero x 2 destroyed A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress x 5 damaged Japanese ground losses: Men lost 206 Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 23 Attacking Level Bombers: 3 x B-17E Fortress at 10000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 10000 feet 6 x B-17E Fortress at 10000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 10000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 10000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 10000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air attack on Tulagi , at 38,39 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 3 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 31 * flew from Luganville no losses no losses Japanese ground losses: Men lost 23 Port hits 1 Port fuel hits 1 Attacking Level Bombers: 0 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 0 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 1 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 0 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 6 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/12/42 Weather: Partly Cloudy Air attack on Lunga , at 38,40 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 16 * From Luganville, night flight, 3 lost no losses Japanese ground losses: Men lost 5 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 8 Attacking Level Bombers: 4 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet 5 x B-17E Fortress at 12000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/04/42 Weather: Clear Air attack on Lunga , at 38,40 Japanese aircraft Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 31 * from Luganville, night, 2 lost Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed A6M3 Zero x 1 destroyed G4M1 Betty x 2 destroyed G4M1 Betty x 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress x 1 damaged Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 23 Attacking Level Bombers: 4 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/22/42 Weather: Partly Cloudy Air attack on Lunga , at 38,40 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 29 *From Kourourotopo, night, no losses Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress x 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: Men lost 47 Port hits 3 Port supply hits 2 Attacking Level Bombers: 6 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 6 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 6 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/24/42 Weather: Partly Cloudy Air attack on Lunga , at 38,40 Japanese aircraft Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 24 *from Kourourotopo, night, 4 losses Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty x 3 destroyed G4M1 Betty x 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress x 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: Men lost 4 Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 23 Attacking Level Bombers: 4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/25/42 Weather: Partly Cloudy Air attack on Lunga , at 38,40 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 19 *From Kourourotopo, night , no losses Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress x 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: Men lost 9 Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 11 Attacking Level Bombers: 4 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 11/28/42 Weather: Partly Cloudy Air attack on Lunga , at 38,40 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 22 * from Kourouratopo, night, 3 losses Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress x 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: Men lost 46 Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 17 Attacking Level Bombers: 4 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 5 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/04/42 Weather: Partly Cloudy Air attack on Lunga , at 38,40 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 12 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 37 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress x 9 damaged * From Wunpunko, daylight, 6 lost (ouch)* Japanese ground losses: Men lost 116 Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 10 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 47 Attacking Level Bombers: 0 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 6 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 5 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 0 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 0 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 0 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 5 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 5 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 0 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 0 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 0 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 0 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 0 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet 0 x B-17E Fortress at 8000 feet --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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