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TIMJOT -> (11/3/2003 12:30:20 PM)
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[QUOTE=Luskan]1. I've seen photos posted on the net of betties dropping torps at unloading transports in a harbour (photos from the ship). They scored several hits IIRC. I'll rty to find them again.
2. Since the game does differentiate between tfs docked and disbanded ships, torpedoes have to be allowed in ports. This is a far lesser evil even though some ports (like madflava, I think not very many) were truly safe from torpedo attacks. To allow a player to disband his ships in port to avoid the entire naval attack routine and therefore all torpedoes is completely gamey - especially since now in WITP ships can be disbanded even when they're carrying cargo etc.
3. Extra checks on whether or not the betties/nells could bomb is an ok idea -
however the extra aa disruption is crazy. if you imagine that all the ships at a port add 50% of their AA to the defence of the port, and that all the flak and coastal batteries of the port get a say - you don't need extra flak damage to torpedo bombers - they're getting wiped out at 200ft left right and centre - why would we need to add an extra penalty to one that already exists and works extremely effectively (look at the losses an IJN player can take at pearl, then realise that those losses are lessened by the surprise factor by a massive amount).
4. Also, there are very few spots (be they moorings or roads or docks etc) in singapore harbour (for example - make sure I pick a harbour I know) that are deep enough to park the PoW in 1941. By their very nature, these deep water spots were not narrow channels/indents into the coast (or like little fjords) - they were easily accessable for torpedo planes to have a long approach and plenty of room to pull up, out and over the ship. I do agree that you'd be able to park subs and dds and smaller vessels in more secure places where torps couldn't get them however.
Reading the first hand account of one of the swordfish pilots, Taranto had plenty of room too![/QUOTE]
Luskan,
I would really like to see that photo of Bettys launching torps in a port. Also any information on that particular incident you can find.
Regarding disruption, I wasnt thinking so much AA disruption but just targeting disruption or even just the likelyhood that the a/c successfully launches its torp.
Regarding Singapore, the POW wasnt parked at Singapore Harbor (Keppel) but rather Singapore Naval Base, which was located on the northern coast of the Island, deep within the narrow Jahore straits. I can categorically state that a arial torp attack would be next to impossible there.
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