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Gary Tatro -> Gamey---What is your definition of it. (11/5/2003 4:29:57 AM)

IS IT;
Opponents who only buy Panthers and SS?
Opponents who buy 400 cheap units and over you in 6,000 point battle?
Opponents who request reinforcements on turn 1?
Opponents who fire smoke after they have moved and fired all of their shots?
Opponents who direct fire artillary smoke to block all LOS?
Opponents who will only play certain countries, time periods?
Opponents who will only play with C&C off?
Opponents who use lots of small/cheep units and run them around to draw op-fire?
Opponents who put a bunch of stipulations on what to buy, what the visibility is, what the time period is, how much artillary you can use, weather you can use mines, air, infiltrators, you name it?

My definition is very simple, yet probably complicated. If my opponent plays his game in a way that make me, his opponent, feel like I have been beaten not due to his skill, but due to some explotation of the game or a specific unit in the game I come away feeling like I have been gamed. :p



Belisarius -> (11/5/2003 4:39:02 AM)

[QUOTE=Gary Tatro]Opponents who only buy Panthers and SS?
Opponents who buy 400 cheap units and over you in 6,000 point battle?
Opponents who request reinforcements on turn 1?
Opponents who fire smoke after they have moved and fired all of their shots?
Opponents who direct fire artillary smoke to block all LOS?
Opponents who will only play certain countries, time periods?
Opponents who will only play with C&C off?
Opponents who put a bunch of stipulations on what to buy, what the visibility is, what the time period is, how much artillary you can use, weather you can use mines, air, infiltrators, you name it?

My definition is very simple, yet probably complicated. If my opponent plays his game in a way that make me, his opponent, feel like I have been beaten not due to his skill, but due to some explotation of the game or a specific unit in the game I come away feeling like I have been gamed. :p[/QUOTE]

Haha, here's my quickies:

1. Not gamey. He's toast anyway (except for 10000+ battles)
2. Gamey. SPWaW favors mass attacks thanks to the IDIOTIC opfire routine.
3. No opinion
4. Not gamey. They have only so much smoke...
5. Not gamey. See above
6. Hmmm... :o Not gamey
7. Cowards! :p
8. Not gamey per se, but not too much fun either. I usually state such things if the opponent sets up the battle. I have recieved battles with vis 3 and he has the full might of the US artillery behind him... :rolleyes:



Alby -> (11/5/2003 5:23:44 AM)

opponents who buy 400 batteries of rockets, or other heavy arty!!
nothing more I hate than starting a game only to have my opponent buy so much arty he turns my side of the map into a lunar landscape!! LOL
alot of skill involved there huh? :rolleyes:

Opponents who only buy Panthers and SS?
Opponents who buy 400 cheap units and over you in 6,000 point battle?
Opponents who request reinforcements on turn 1?
Opponents who fire smoke after they have moved and fired all of their shots?
Opponents who direct fire artillary smoke to block all LOS?
Opponents who will only play certain countries, time periods?
Opponents who will only play with C&C off?
Opponents who put a bunch of stipulations on what to buy, what the visibility is, what the time period is, how much artillary you can use, weather you can use mines, air, infiltrators, you name it?

1. depends on what type of game we had in mind
2. ?? Over you?
3.not gamey
4.not gamey
5.not gamey
6.GAMEY! such as always playing germans just after tigers come out!
7.NOT gamey I mostly play c and c off.
8.Debatable, I usually like arty limits due to my above stated reason, but I hate when you cant use all the things the game has to offer like para troops, infiltraitors, etc etc...



tracer -> (11/5/2003 8:55:43 PM)

[QUOTE=Gary Tatro]
Opponents who put a bunch of stipulations on what to buy, what the visibility is, what the time period is, how much artillary you can use, weather you can use mines, air, infiltrators, you name it?

[/QUOTE]

If both opponents [I]negotiate[/I] these things before a battle, wouldn't it lessen or eliminate the effect of these loopholes? Whenever I spot a new SPWAW 'quirk', I usually post it...if its common knowledge, it can't be somebody's 'secret weapon'. ;) (see http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45459 )



OKW-73 -> (11/8/2003 2:04:34 PM)

[QUOTE=Gary Tatro]IS IT;
Opponents who only buy Panthers and SS?
Opponents who buy 400 cheap units and over you in 6,000 point battle?
Opponents who request reinforcements on turn 1?
Opponents who fire smoke after they have moved and fired all of their shots?
Opponents who direct fire artillary smoke to block all LOS?
Opponents who will only play certain countries, time periods?
Opponents who will only play with C&C off?
Opponents who use lots of small/cheep units and run them around to draw op-fire?
[/QUOTE]

1. I buy usually something else too ;)
2. In 6k battle i tend to buy expensive units more..sometimes regretting it.
3. I never request reinforcements.
4. I use smoke only if i really need it, cause smoke is limited so if using that kinda tactic i would not have any smoke left when really need one.
5. I rarely use arty to make smoke barrage, should be doing that more often.
6. I prefer Germany and Russia, but that doesnt mean i would not play other countries as well.
7. Yes, I play C&C off only.
8. This is what i find disturbing, got one opponent who does this everytime and drives me crazy cause in game its so effective and unrealistic.

a gamey? dunno what word really means...



Irinami -> (11/8/2003 8:57:52 PM)

[QUOTE=Gary Tatro]IS IT;
Opponents who buy 400 cheap units and over you in 6,000 point battle?
Opponents who will only play certain countries, time periods?
[/QUOTE]

These two combined was a quandry I had in a PbEM I never ended up playing due to a transfer at work. In short, I was playing China. It doesn't matter which. I had something on the order of a freaking Brigade due to their poor quality and low cost. The moral of this story? Some nations can't help but buy 400 cheapo's in a 6,000 point battle! :eek:



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