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Frank W. -> (11/13/2003 2:31:27 AM)

i secend gary´s opinion.

it´s no real strategy IMHO.

it can be fun if you overlook some bugs
and interface errors..

i put it back in the box and wait for 1.06
or so....

meanwhile i´m enough occupied w/ SPWAW
and EU 2.

i also play an old adventure called "beneath a steel sky "
quite funny game :)




IJN_Shinano -> (11/13/2003 8:55:54 AM)

[QUOTE=Gary Tatro]There are about 30 patches, each one is not compatable with the previous patch and the game still crashes. HOI as a group of nut-o gamers who post how to fix the patches buy going into the code using your own computer. :p [/QUOTE]

Hmmm... all that has to be done is to simply download the latest patch (you don't need to download any of the earlier ones) and execute it. Doesn't sound too difficult to me.

Sometimes I think that people are talking about a different game than I'm playing. I never had a single crash with HOI and have found it to be the one game I've kept on my hard drive for the past year (in truth, I never have crashes with any of my games). Detailed and deep; and just enough micro-management to keep even the groggiest bean counter happy. And until my penultimate wet-dream game comes out (MatrixGames 'War In Flames' conversion), HOI's a great "temporary" substitute.

[QUOTE=Gary Tatro]I have played maybe 4 games. Never to the finish. Most of the time I make it to 1944 and as the Axis have concured all the world except North America. :p The AI is absolutely terrible. It is almost immposible to win as the Russians. [/QUOTE]

I haven't found a decent AI (except for Korsun Pocket, mind you) in any wargame, so this isn't unusual. As for the Russians... well... I don't know how you can say the AI is "absolutely terrible" and still have problems beating it when you're playing as the USSR. When I play as the USSR, it's a hoot. I can win the war against the Axis alone, if need be, and serve out in detail the historical platitude of the Soviets winning the war and the rest of the Allies' just happening to 'be there.' For me, it's the easiest country to play.

I find that the most rampant complainers (who haven't played many full games of HOI, btw) always play the 1936 campaign. Play the 1939 campaign. You'll find the game a LOT more balanced and, truth be told, challenging. The AI has more difficulty dealing with the 1936 campaign since players often take some very wide historical turns in terms of technology acquisition and deployment. Too many unique possibilities for the AI to handle. The 1939 campaign? Totally different story. And a whole helluva lot funner to play as the Soviets (i.e., the Axis has got its sh*t together, so to speak).


[QUOTE=Gary Tatro]Anyway the game is fun in an arcade kind of way, but real strategy. :p :p :p
You will have fun playing it through once or twice but never there after.[/QUOTE]

Well, until someone can find me a game that models the skills of over 3000 separate military commanders and their appropriate effects on troop concentrations, then I guess I'll continue having this kind of "arcade" fun. But I actually enjoy the "arcade-ish" effect of an event popping up on my screen informing me that Poland has enacted some sweeping legislation regarding its sanitary districts... and knowing that such legislation is actually going to impact my game. I play with the C.O.R.E. add-on (in reality, just a massive series of "events".... thousands, in fact) and it really gives HOI the historical flavor I crave.

My advice is to play it slowly... turn down the speed. Name some of your units (you can do that). Create historical troop concentrations and assign their historical commanders. Get involved with the game. It's pretty good in my book and I'd recommend it.

And don't get me started on multiplayer... that's where it shines and really can't be beat. Get four of your friends in a large room and play on a LAN... watch the beer bottles and insults fly. Totally rocks, but be prepared to lose 12 or so hours of your lifetime.




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