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afenelon -> (11/15/2003 3:19:01 AM)
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[QUOTE=mdiehl]Your numbers do not accord with general stats in re a/c. Only in Axis Fanboy Fantasy Land could the Ki-84 could outdive the F4U, F6F, or P47. It could not. (Dive rate is primarily a function of weight, drag, and thrust).
-My mistake, I wanted to say out turn
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Ki-84
Empty Weight: 2660kg Max.Weight: 3890kg
IN US weights: 5,864 lb Loaded 8,576 lb
Speed: 624km/h (392 mph) Ceiling: 11000m (about 36K feet) Range: 2920km
Armament: 2*mg13mm 2*g20mm 2*b250kg
P51-D (Note, the P51-H was the late war variant to be used in the PTO if actin went beyond August)
Maximum speed at 25,000ft 437mph (45 mph over the Ki-84; that's greater than the sped difference between the A6M and the Brewster Buffalo ... and we KNOW how that combat turned out).
Maximum range 2,300 miles
Service ceiling 41,900ft
Weight: Empty 7,125lb, Loaded 11,600lb
-Hmmm...now the difference went from 100mph to 45 mph (just as I said)
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P51-H variant max airspeed 487 mph @ 25,000 feet. Basically 100 mph faster than the Ki-84. Against this plane, the Ki-84 might as well have been hung from a string while US pilots make passes at it.
-480mph? 800km/h (sources please)
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P47-D (again, not the N model common in the late war PTO)
Maximum speed at 30,000ft 433mph
Maximum range 1,900 miles
Service ceiling 41,000ft
Weight: Empty 9,950lb, Loaded 17,500lb.
P47-N variant max airspeed 467 mph. (Seventy mph speed advantage).
-From what I know this speed was only achieved in tests, so you should compare with the 687km/h for the Frank....
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