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VALENT PHILIPPE -> DEBUTANT IN UV (3/20/2004 11:49:41 AM)

[[&:] some questions please. i have some probleme to localise the japenese ships in the first scenario of UV. where does i have to put my porte avion Us to prevent the japenese fleet from attack the right or the left ? and destroy them if possible?
thinks to respond me.
phil




bradfordkay -> RE: DEBUTANT IN UV (3/21/2004 10:04:46 PM)

Bonjour Phillippe... bienvenue au Forum du UV. Excuse me, my French is not very good...


In the Coral Sea scenario, the Japanese are trying to invade both Lunga/Tulagi and Port Moresby/Gili Gili. I have never found it possible to cover both the eastern end of the Solomon Island chain and southern New Guinea at the same time. I usually try to combine my aircraft carrier task forces (CV TFs) into one location, placing it somewhere south of Gili Gili (about 5-10 hexes south, since I believe that places the TF out of the range of Rabaul-based Zeros. Usually my US carriers get their butts kicked in a carrier vs carrier battle. I find that the addition of land based aircraft (LBA) into the mix is what turns the tide. Thus I try to entice the Japanese carrier TFs to chase my TF further south, into the range of my B25 squadrons that are based in northern Australia. Under no circumstances do I allow my CV TFs to chase Japanese TFs northward. Rabaul has a huge amount of Zeros to protect a decent amount of ship killing Betty bombers (Japanese LBA is much more effective against naval forces than is allied LBA due to the range of their fighters and torpedo capacity).

The main Japanese objective in scenario 1 is Port Moresby, and so that is the location I try to defend against the Japanese AI. I try not to bring my US CV TFs into launching range until there is a definite target.

Bonne chance!




mariovalleemtl -> RE: DEBUTANT IN UV (3/21/2004 10:36:51 PM)

Salut,

Vas voir ces deux liens ;

http://uncommon-valor.chez.tiscali.fr/

http://uv.omahabeach-bedford.com/

mv




VALENT PHILIPPE -> RE: DEBUTANT IN UV (3/22/2004 4:44:29 PM)

[:)]THINKS to your answers i 'll try to apply your indications about the first scenario[&o]merci pour les liens en francais. i'll contact you if there is a little problem. ok?
thinks for all. phil




VALENT PHILIPPE -> RE: DEBUTANT IN UV (3/23/2004 7:31:08 PM)

[&:] a little question :in the coral sea scenario, i have to protect port moresby and if the japenese attack lunga i cannot detect them if my PA was to far exact no?i have to put my ships between the 2 bases to hope detect the japanese.
please respond me . thinks.
phil




Shadow of the Condor -> RE: DEBUTANT IN UV (3/23/2004 8:00:02 PM)

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a little question :in the coral sea scenario, i have to protect port moresby and if the japenese attack lunga i cannot detect them if my PA was to far exact no?i have to put my ships between the 2 bases to hope detect the japanese.
please respond me . thinks.
phil


To detect the IJN I would recommend using land based aircraft instead of your carriers (someone help me - it's been so long since Scen 1). Anyway, if you have Hudsons at Port Moresby, set them to Naval Search at 100 percent. As a matter of fact, if you have level bombers anywhere, use them the same way (don't worry about how good they are...you need eyes in the sky, not sitting on the ground sipping beer). They'll tire out, but in a short scenario it doesn't matter. Use PBYs as well on Naval Search. Keep your carriers back until your search spots the enemy.

Bon chance! (I hope I didn't just swear in French [:)])




bradfordkay -> RE: DEBUTANT IN UV (3/24/2004 7:06:25 AM)

I want to second Condor's comment here: DO NOT use US carrier aircraft for naval search. The US carrier a/c (aircraft) have a much shorter range than do the Japanese carrier a/c, and so you will be placing your carriers in danger by using them to search for enemy task forces. Keep them back away from the front lines until you have located the Japanese task forces. I lost a few carriers before I learned that lesson...

Bonne chance! (Condor, you didn't use a curse, but to the French luck is a lady... I guess in English too - Lady Luck!?).




DanHeute -> RE: DEBUTANT IN UV (3/24/2004 7:33:52 AM)

Effectivement le PBY Catalina est le meilleur appareil pour la recherche navale vu qu'il a été principalement conçu pour l'exploration et le secours en mer. Pour la reco, à défaut d'autre chose, on peut également utiliser des multimoteurs disposant d'un rayon d'action conséquent (B-17, Hudson, etc ...) mais, évidemment, il vaut mieux utiliser les bombardiers pour leur tâche essentielle.




VALENT PHILIPPE -> RE: DEBUTANT IN UV (3/24/2004 2:22:44 PM)

[:D] thinks for all your answers. i notice that i have to wait with my carrier until the japanese fleet was detectedbefore attack them.
the same lesson applies if the japanese attack lunga and not port moresby? i have to put my catalina in lunga airport, exact?
please answer me. thinks.
phil




Shadow of the Condor -> RE: DEBUTANT IN UV (3/24/2004 10:39:08 PM)

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originally posted by VALENT PHILIPPE

thinks for all your answers. i notice that i have to wait with my carrier until the japanese fleet was detectedbefore attack them.
the same lesson applies if the japanese attack lunga and not port moresby? i have to put my catalina in lunga airport, exact?
please answer me. thinks.
phil


Theoretically, yes. The same concept applies, but specifically about scenario 1, forget about Lunga. It's only worth 10VPs. It also has no air support troops (or troops of any kind for that matter). Any planes you transfer there will eventually be useless without maintenance, rearming, etc.

The goal of scenario 1 is learning carrier operations (remember, it's the Coral Sea scenario, not the Solomon Sea scenario [:)] ). The first priority is finding the enemy. Try this:

PM starts off being able to support 90 aircraft. It has a weak fighter squadron, a full strength level bomber squadron, two weak fighter bomber squadrons, and a capable (after they rest a day or so) dive bomber squadron. Ask yourself, what is the best use of each squadron? The level bomber squadron can be used to bomb Rabaul or Lae, but keep the objective in mind - find and destroy the enemy carriers. To that end, the level bombers are better used for search operations. The dive bomber squadron has teeth, and can hurt an enemy carrier, so keeping it at PM isn't a bad idea - leave it on naval attack ( I would recommend an altitude of at least 17000 feet - this way each attack wave has as many as nine planes and a better chance of scoring a hit giving the enemy gunners less time to react). The fighter squadron is severely understrength, and its doubtful you can get it in shape before 5/15. The same goes for the two P-39D fighter bomber squadrons. As I see it, those three squadrons are taking up valuable tarmac space on the runway. I would transfer those three squadrons south to Australia somewhere (Cairns, Townsville, etc.) Don't worry about having no fighters to provide CAP against Japanese bombing missions against PM from Rabaul. They'll be escorted, and your fighters will be eaten alive. Your engineers will keep the runways patched against bombing raids.

So what should go to PM? You have 4 PBY squadrons to start the game with. VP9 at Efate Port Vila, VP11 at Noumea, No. 20 RAAF at Townsville, and No. 11 RAAF at Cairns. They are the best of your search aircraft - even though some of the squadrons are understrength. Transfer them all to PM and set them to Naval Search. Transferring them to PM greatly extends your chances of spotting the carriers early and being able to watch them sail south towards the climatic carrier battle. For the short game of scenario 1, you can set them to 100% search, but for a long game, I rarely go beyond 50% search - it helps keep fatigue levels down. I haven't seen a difference in results or survivability whether they fly at 6000 feet or 20000 feet, (I like 20000 feet) so experiment and see what works for you.

Later, as you play longer games, you may prefer using PBYs for ASW (their slow cruising speed helps spot the subs). Speaking of which, don't forget you have four subs in the immediate area of the Coral Sea. You probably wouldn't get a shot off against the IJN carriers, but it's one more option you have.

The other land based aircraft of benefit this early is the B-17. You have four squadrons at Rockhampton at varying stages of readiness. The long operational range of the B-17 makes it a formidible search aircraft, and it's very capable of defending itself.

Try a game of scenario #1 using the B-17s from PM instead of the PBYs and comapre the search results. The down side of using the B-17s, however, is that any losses won't be replaced until at least August 42.

Remember, keep your focus on finding the carriers for the Coral Sea scenario.

Hope that helps [:)]




Ol_Dog -> RE: DEBUTANT IN UV (3/25/2004 12:48:24 AM)

The Shadow knows

[:)]




VALENT PHILIPPE -> RE: DEBUTANT IN UV (3/25/2004 10:07:24 AM)

[&o]its fantastic you give me many informations about scenario 1 coral sea.thinks very much. i 'll try to beat the AI! its not very easy unfortunately! [&:]after i ask the forum for the second scenario if i have some problem too. OK?
[:D]thinks encore! phil




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